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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 09:06 AM
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Chip Pitts kicking ass on C-Span2
Edited on Fri Jun-10-05 09:14 AM by FLDem5
on the Gulag issue. Amnesty Rocks!
Discussed how America forfeits right to complain about N. Korean and other atrocities while committing them at Gitmo, Abu.

Gulag comment referred to how prisoners were stripped, beaten, same as Soviet gulag rules.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 09:07 AM
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1. Conyers smacking down Sensenbrenner on his error!
"we have the sole jurisdiction over these"

Take that!
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 09:08 AM
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2. Link here!
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 09:11 AM
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3. Delighted to hear it!
Give us a blow by blow if you can!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 09:13 AM
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4. Zogby from Arab American was on
he gave stats on how many detained vs. how many actually charged.

Closed hearings questioned by Wasserman-Schultz (D-Fl)

Answered by ??? - spoke about how these "secret hearings" left people without family contact. Not only were the family members not allowed to be present, they didn't even know who held them or where they were held.
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Spectral Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 09:14 AM
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5. I'll second that request
Gotta make a new cup of coffee
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 09:16 AM
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6. Jackson Lee - up now
any due process rights, checks and balances on Patriot Act?
Asks Zogby and Pitts to speak to what Gitmo means in relation to putting Amer. soldiers lives at risk around the world.

Notes - no convictions and no arrests for terrorism at Gitmo.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 09:17 AM
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7. "when you abuse non-citizens rights, it is a small step to abuse citizens"
Edited on Fri Jun-10-05 09:18 AM by FLDem5
each witness gets one minute (thanks to Conyers)
Conyers admits docs to record.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 09:19 AM
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8. Asshats are shutting down things again!
Conyers asked for response time for Sheila Jackson Lee's questions, 4 minutes. One per witness.

Sensenbrenner asked if there is an objection. There was. :grr:
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 09:19 AM
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9. Sensenbrenner being a dick
Edited on Fri Jun-10-05 09:21 AM by FLDem5
"this testimony not relavent to Patriot Act"
"Patriot Act is being used as a buzzword for people who have broad objections" "We should stick to the subject" "Patriot Act has nothing to do with Gitmo, indefinite detentions"

"I will NOT yeild" Asshat.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 09:23 AM
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10. Pitts asked for list of Sec 215 orders on librarians
Edited on Fri Jun-10-05 09:24 AM by FLDem5
Sensnebrenner shut down hearing amidst people trying to continue - took his gavel and walked out.

Dems continuing anyway!!!! (Nadler) C-Span can't decide whether to keep audio on or not - irritating.

Nadler finishes to applause.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 09:28 AM
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11. Zogby expresses disgust at R behavior
Pitts, "there is nothing unpatriotic about asking questions"

Jackson Lee "you are innocent until proven guilty. We are trying to avoid dark moments in our history so we can be a shining light"

"minutemen using Patriot Act."

She addresses Muslim women in back about their rights - very touching.
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