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Hapameli Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 09:50 AM
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The Downing Street Memo Story Won't Die -- Washington Post
Edited on Tue Jun-07-05 09:51 AM by Hapameli
By Jefferson Morley
washingtonpost.com Staff Writer
Tuesday, June 7, 2005; 9:18 AM

More than a month after its publication, the so-called Downing Street Memo remains among the top 10 most viewed articles on The Times of London site.

It's not hard to see why this remarkable document, published in The Times on May 1 (and reported in this column on May 3), continues to attract reader interest around the world, especially with British Prime Minister Tony Blair visiting Washington Tuesday. <...>

"We have The Sunday Times to thank for this very important activity. It reminds me of Watergate, which started off as a tiny little incident reported in The Washington Post. I think that the interest of many citizens is picking up," Conyers said.

So is journalistic interest. Over the weekend, Charles Hanley, a special correspondent for the Associated Press, linked The Times's Downing Street memo to U.N. Ambassador nominee John Bolton's effort to get a U.N. weapons inspector fired. <...>

Far from being a dud, the Downing Street Memo may generate more stories to come.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/07/AR2005060700474_2.html
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 09:52 AM
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1. Blair may think American media will help him cool the story...
It's hotter there than here.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 12:28 PM
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26. that's a story in itself..."our corporate owned media"
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 07:29 PM
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33. Don't forget the "corporate owned war" whom own the "tube-media!"
Edited on Tue Jun-07-05 07:30 PM by AuntiBush
No wonder they have all those Pentagon-made titles for the Tube-Talking-Head Whores to spin... you know, to get the masses behind it.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 02:19 PM
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27. If Bush goes down for "memo" - Tony will start sweating it!!!
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 07:38 PM
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35. If Tony goes down for "memo"
George is probably too stupid to realize he should sweat.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 08:45 PM
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37. this is true...
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ktowntennesseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 07:11 AM
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43. He never sweats--his family has always paid someone to sweat for him!
:banghead:
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 12:15 PM
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51. "
:rofl: :rofl:
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 09:53 AM
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2. And they huffed and they puffed...
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 09:54 AM
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3. Anybody think this is an impeachable offense? n/t
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 09:56 AM
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6. With more evidence, almost certainly.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:12 AM
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11. It's ALMOST enough evidence as it stands.... n/t
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:17 AM
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15. Almost enough evidence
they almost Impeached Clinton for lying about a blow job.

I,m pretty confident that we got enough evidence just based on that.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:18 AM
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19. They did impeach Clinton. They didn't have the votes to remove
him from office.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 02:21 PM
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28. Almost enough evidence?? Clinton goes down for a BJ??
What indeed has happened to simple common sense in Bush's amerika??
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Kber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 03:18 PM
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31. Technically
Monica was the one who, oh, never mind, I see what you mean.
;)
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bornagainhuman Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:17 PM
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39. lol kick
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renaissanceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 10:08 AM
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48. Now if only we could get proof
that Bushie blew Bolton, then we'd certainly have an impeachment!

:SARCASM:



http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues/472476
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 09:57 AM
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7. Of course it is; but with Republican control of both the House
and Senate, Bush could be caught red-handed shredding the Constitution at the National Archives and no action would be taken.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:13 AM
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13. As a friend of mine says:
* could eat a live baby on the White House lawn and people would praise him.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 07:39 PM
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36. For population control?
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 07:31 PM
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34. If Clinton Can Go Down for a BJ & a Dress... Then, Certainly!
All it takes is "1 lie."

:patriot:
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 07:20 AM
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44. Well....what say we spend $50-60 MILLION to find out???
If America needed sooooo badly to spend that amount to see if Clinton got a hummer then I think we should pony up that much to see if Bush and Blair rigged up a War.
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sundancekid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 09:55 AM
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4. when will WaPo conclude too that this is indeed "Worse than Watergate"
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:22 AM
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17. when a pig shits in a space suit.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 09:56 AM
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5. Though the corporate media tried to kill it
Let us hope the truth gets out eventually. We can help it along. Get letters to the editor for one thing, not just from ourselves but get others to submit them too. We need to be heard.

Perhaps the WP, feeling nostalgic for the days of actual journalists breaking actual stories (and the huge publicity that came with it), may see an opportunity to achieve such again.....Memogate anyone?

Julie
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AngryWhiteLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:03 AM
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8. What do you mean "tried"? They're still working to kill the story.
Just yesterday on MSGOP the "Coast-to-Coast" program @ 5pm EST ran a segment on the DSM. There were two DSM naysayers and one relatively ineffectual and minimized for time DSM supporter. The host (even Ron Reagan) suggested that the DSM was much to do about nothing.

This Washington Post article is encouraging. Maybe the recent focus on Deep Throat is making the paper realize that its value is in investigative reporting and an adversaral-to-power press...

JB
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Hapameli Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:04 AM
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9. Its not *that* great, it looks like its only on the website, not the paper
However, IMO, they're slowly twisting in the wind.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:08 AM
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10. Far from being a dud, the Downing Street Memo may generate more stories to
Really?

Is that why it is buried in the back pages instead of on the front page.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:12 AM
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12. UK story, gagged two and a half years, Blair, pedophiles & Iraq:
COUNTERPUNCH
January 29, 2003
Blackout in Britain
Alleged Pedophiles Helm Blair's War Room
by MIKE JAMES

A child-sex scandal that threatened to destroy Tony Blair's government last week has been mysteriously squashed and wiped off the front pages of British newspapers. Operation Ore, the United Kingdom's most thorough and comprehensive police investigation of crimes against children, seems to have uncovered more than is politically acceptable at the highest reaches of the British elite. In the 19th of January edition of The Sunday Herald, Neil Mackay sensationally reported that senior members of Tony Blair's government were being investigated for paedophilia and the "enjoyment" of child-sex pornography:

"The Sunday Herald has also had confirmed by a very senior source in British intelligence that at least one high-profile former Labour Cabinet minister is among Operation Ore suspects. The Sunday Herald has been given the politician's name but, for legal reasons, can not identify the person.

There are still unconfirmed rumours that another senior Labour politician is among the suspects. The intelligence officer said that a 'rolling' Cabinet committee had been set up to work out how to deal with the potentially ruinous fall-out for both Tony Blair and the government if arrests occur."

The allegations are the most serious yet levelled at an administration that prides itself on the inclusion in its ranks of a high quota of controversial and flamboyant homosexual men, and whose First Lady, Cherie Blair, has come under the spotlight for her indulgence in pagan rituals that resemble Freemasonic rites. Unconfirmed information also suggests that the term "former Labour Cabinet minister" is misleading and that the investigation has identified a surprisingly large number of alleged paedophiles at the highest level of British government, including one very senior cabinet minister.

The Blair government has responded by imposing a comprehensive blackout on the story, effectively removing it from the domain of public discussion. Attempts on the part of this journalist to establish why the British media has not followed up on the revelations have met with a wall of silence. Editors and journalists of The Times, The Daily Telegraph, The Guardian, The Independent, The Sunday Times, The Observer, The Sunday Telegraph, The Daily Mail, The Daily Express, The Mirror, The Sun, the BBC, Independent Television News and even The Sunday Herald have refused to discuss the matter.

MORE:
http://www.gaiaguys.net/OperationOre.htm

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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:14 AM
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14. Is there some alien race that's infiltrated our world's governments?
I mean seriously, :wtf:??
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:18 AM
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16. KGB recruited extensively during the post Cuban missile crisis.
The UK press repeatedly published stories right up to 2000 about the endemic, systematic penetration of high public office by senior KGB recruits.
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nikraye Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:22 AM
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21. Ditto for Reagan-Bush White House & Republican Congress -- child sex ring
Must be something about elitest power that attracts perverts.

Exact same scandal surrounded the Reagan-Bush administration, i.e., the case of Larry King (not the talk show host), the kiddie pimp for Washington's elite and powerful including White House residents, Reagan and Bush Sr. This scandal hit in the late 80s and efforts to expose this scandal have resulted in numerous suspicious deaths, including that of former CIA director, William Colby. Over 70 children, all victims of Larry King's pedophile ring, testified with industed credibility as to the names of their rapists and abusers, a lengthy and telling list of Republican congressmen, governors, as well as Daddy Bush and Junior, too.

Discovery channel paid out between a quarter to half million dollars for a U.K. investigative team to produce a documentary of the scandal, but powerful members of congress stopped the doc's airing by threatening to pass legislation that would severely restrict cable television programming. For a pirated copy of the video, see my post, below. The Capitol Hill / White House implications are discussed toward the end of the video, in the last 10 minutes of playing time.

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http://www.tomflocco.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=107

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The Justice Department, acting through the FBI and the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Omaha, emerges from the record of the Franklin investigations not so much as a party to the cover-up, but as its coordinator. Rigging grand juries, harassment of witnesses, incitement to perjury and tampering with evidence--federal personnel were seen to apply all of those techniques in the Franklin case. (John W. DeCamp, Esq., The Franklin Cover-up, Second Edition, January 2005)

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Nelson was allegedly employed by a former Republican Party activist to take pictures of current or retired U.S. House-Senate members and other prominent government officials engaging in sexual criminality by receiving or committing sodomy and other sex acts on children during the Reagan-Bush 41 administrations.

*****************

John DeCamp just released an updated 2005 edition of his original book about the secret White House-linked national child sex-ring entitled The Franklin Cover-up <$12.95 + $4.00 shipping: contact [email protected] for 2005 edition>. The carefully researched and graphic expose involves convicted GOP operative Lawrence E. "Larry" King Jr. who allegedly hired photographers to capture legislators and high officials in compromising sexual positions with children while he managed the Franklin Federal Credit Union--according to court testimony on 2-5-1999.

*****************

After the Secret Service allowed Paul Bonacci to have access to the White House on July 3, 1988, one of DeCamp’s investigators said the young pedophile victim was able to draw a floor-plan of the presidential inside living quarters of the White House--an area not available to the public--lending stong credence to a June 29, 1989 Washington Times front page story, "Homosexual prostitution inquiry ensnares VIPs with Reagan, Bush," when reporters Paul Rodriguez and George Archibald said "Call-boys took midnight tour of White House."

****************

Following on the heels of Guckert-Gannon, Walter Storch, editor of the Barnes Review News reported a three weeks ago that "Karl Rove was seen by one of my people entering a private homosexual orgy at a five-star Washington hotel over the Mid-Atlantic Leather (MAL) weekend last year." <2004>

A Barnes reporter told Storch that "Karl greatly enjoyed the supervision of a certain hairy 350-lb. Leather Dominator who had won the Miss Virginia Daddy Bear title at the MAL festivities."

Storch wrote, "Karl used to hang out a JR’s, which is on 17th between P & S streets, before he became so well-known. This is a respectable gay bar for discreet people...," adding, "there is an expensive apartment...over near Dupont Circle that certain powerful senators take turns visiting with their pickups."

"Bush, via Karl Rove, was projected as a moral man who would return a hedonistic America to the simpler virtues of a bygone era. A large part of the American public, unhappy with what they saw as debilitating liberalism, abortion on demand, gay marriage and other forms of moral decay, put Bush back in office," said the Barnes editor.

"Now they have to deal with rampant male whores prancing around the White House in consort with a small army of closet queens, all of whom very obviously have the ear, and the confidence, (and hopefully, that’s all they have) of their ‘moral’ choice for President," said Storch.

Interestingly, TBRNews.org also counts "one Supreme Court Justice, several governors (all Republican) and at least one very prominent televangelist" among those high officials who are saying one thing and doing another with respect to Storch's closet queen issue.

While American citizens watch, unanswered questions remain as Democrats and Republicans ignore young witnesses with clear and credible evidence--refusing to hold each other's legislators criminally accountable for their unspeakable crimes against children.
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nikraye Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:24 AM
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22. Discovery Channel's aborted documentary: Conspiracy of Silence
Windows Media Player: http://www.indybay.org/uploads/conspiracyofsilence2.wmv
Real Player: http://images.indymedia.org/imc/uk/conspiracyofsilence56k.rm

This is nearly an hour in run time and not the best video quality, but it's well worth the download time and fuzzy video. Discovery Channel paid half a million dollars for a U.K. documentary team to produce this video. It was scheduled to run on Discovery channel, listed in TV Guide, but never aired. Why? Powerful members of the United States Congress threatened Discovery channel to pass legislation which would highly restrict and regulate cable television if this were aired. Discovery Channel buckled and sold all rights to this video to and "un-named entity" which in turn promptly destroyed all copies of the video. However, a year later, DeCamp (a former Republican state senator and practicing attorney) received an anonymous copy of the video in the mail. This link above is to this unedited video.

Implicated in this video:

The Republican National Party
The Catholic Archdiocese of Omaha
Boys Town USA (the world famous one, founded by Father Flannagan in 1917)
Omaha Chief of Police
Many high ranking Nebraska Republicans and judges
Many high ranking Congressional Republicans
The Reagan-Bush White House

While watching this video, you might be interested to know that several of the persons involved in exposing this sex ring all suspiciously died as a result, including:

Investigator (and former FBI), Gary Caradori and his 8-y.o. son
Former CIA Director, William Colby
Victim and key witness, Troy Boner

Alisha Owen, the third victim-witness, was sentenced to up to 25 yrs for a trumped up perjury charge and placed in confinement...to isololate and silence her.

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From John DeCamp:

"... the British-based TV station, Yorkshire Television, sent a top-notch team to Nebraska to launch its own investigation of the Franklin case. Yorkshire had a contract with the Discovery Channel to produce a documentary on the case for American television. They spent many months in Nebraska, and also traveled this country from one end to the other, interviewing, filming, and documenting
piece-by-piece the Franklin story as I had told it in the book. They spent somewhere between a quarter-million and one-half million dollars investigating the story, deploying probably a thousand times the resources and abilities that I personally had. Over the year that I worked with them, I was amazed at the team's ability to gather new documents and witnesses which kept opening up new and frightening facts about Franklin. They were a crack team. In the final weeks that they were in Nebraska, they expressed their certainty that they would win awards for this documented horror story of government-sanctioned drug-running involving children; government-sanctioned abuse of children; and government protection of some of this country's most powerful businessmen and politicians, who had been the chief actors in the Franklin story. Finally, the big day came. Their documentary was to air nationwide on the Discovery Channel on May 3, 1994. It was advertised in the TV Guide and in newspapers for that day. But no one ever saw that program. At the last minute, and without explanation, it was pulled from the air.

It was not shown then, and has never been broadcast anywhere since. I have a copy of that program, which arrived anonymously in my mail in late 1995. When I watched this pirated copy, I could see clearly why the program had been suppressed. Conspiracy of Silence proved, beyond doubt, that the essential points I had stressed in the book (and more) were all true. For instance, the team had interviewed Troy Boner. Sometime after that grand jury was over, Troy, guilt-stricken because of his lying over Gary Caradori's death, contacted me and told the truth about what had happened. This is recorded in a remarkable affidavit (see Chapter 20). The Yorkshire TV team spent a small fortune to confirm Troy's charges. They flew Troy to Chicago and paid for a lengthy polygraph (lie detector) test at the Keeler Polygraph Institute. With the results of that test, the Yorkshire team was so convinced that Troy was telling the truth, that they featured him in their documentary. It was only in mid-1996, that I finally pieced together, through sources I am not at liberty to disclose, what happened to stop the broadcast of this documentary.

1. At the time the Yorkshire TV team and the Discovery Channel were doing the documentary, they had no idea how high up the case would go into Government, and; what major institutions and personalities in this country, would be found to be linked to the Franklin story. Ultimately, the documentary focused on several limited aspects documented in this book, and developed them much more extensively than I ever had the resources or abilities to accomplish.

2. These areas which the documentary focused on, were: (a) the use and involvement of Boys Town children and personalities in the Franklin Scandal, particularly Peter Citron and Larry King's relationships to Boys Town; (b) the linkage of Franklin to some of this country's top politicians in Washington, and in the U.S. Congress, with particular attention on those who attended parties held by Larry King at his Washington mansion on Embassy Row; (c) the impropriety of these-politicians and businessmen and compromising of these people by Larry King, through drugs and using children for pedophilia.

3. When the broadcast tape was sent to the United States, Customs officials seized the documentary and held it up as being "pornographic material." Attorneys for Discovery Channel and Yorkshire TV were able to get the documentary released. Then, the lawyers went through the film for months, making this or that change or deletion, so that the documentary ultimately advertised to be shown on the Discovery Channel on May 3, 1994, would survive any claims of libel or slander that any of the individuals identified in the documentary might attempt to bring. The lawyers had cleared the documentary for broadcast.

4. During the several months that the documentary was being prepared and advertised for showing, major legislation impacting the entire future of the Cable TV industry was being debated on Capitol Hill. Legislation, which the industry opposed, was under debate for placing controls on the industry and the contents of what could be shown. Messages were delivered in no uncertain terms from key politicians involved in the Cable TV battle, that if the Conspiracy of Silence were shown on the Discovery Channel as planned, then the industry would probably lose the debate. An agreement was reached: Conspiracy of Silence was pulled, and with no rights for sale or broadcast by any other program; Yorkshire TV would be reimbursed for the costs of production, the Discovery Channel itself would never be linked to the documentary; and copies of Conspiracy in Silence would be destroyed. Not all copies were destroyed, however, as I and some others
received anonymously in the mail a copy of the nearly-finished product."
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 04:17 PM
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32. Woah, I heard about this reading up on bohemian grove
A child sex ring in washington? I didn't know what to make of it. Now I have to watch the banned documentary.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 09:17 AM
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45. Thanks very much for this post and #22. Very comprehensive
overview.

In the UK the 'gentlemen's agreement' - cited by the Counterpunch article that quotes the Scotsman story - is a very frail one indeed.

Recent radio talk-ins about this have alluded to eight UK local authorities/borough councils that are directly involved in the abuses and cover-ups that related directly to Blair's war council.

Don't know how much longer the UK press is going to stand by and watch this macabre farce carry on.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:14 AM
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18. See Keith Olbermann debunk RW spin on Kerry's DSM statement:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1834390

This short video clip is not to be missed! And if only more newscasters join Keith in trying to get at the truth, this Administration won't be able to stonewall this time. And then all the other lies will start to unravel. FINALLY.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:20 AM
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20. I was skeptical...
... that this would amount to anything. Damn I'm glad to be wrong about that.

This baby has legs! Go baby go!!!!!!!!
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:28 AM
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23. Senator Kennedy just made certain it would stay in the CNM's faces.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3804199&mesg_id=3804199

Let's continue urging the other Dems in the Senate to do likewise.

Peace.


www.missionnotaccomplished.us
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radar Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:39 AM
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24. Hehe..
"...with British Prime Minister Tony Blair visiting Washington..."

Visions of the typical WhiteHouse press gathering where the prez gives time for questions from the foreign contingent - might not be the desired route this time.
Downing Street inquiries from all sides....

hehe
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 12:01 PM
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25. Gee, WaPo--ya think?? n/t
Edited on Tue Jun-07-05 12:02 PM by ginnyinWI
:puffpiece:
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 02:25 PM
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29. Story made the top 20 Emailed .. its growing! drip drip... IMPEACH! nt
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 02:37 PM
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30. WE shouldn't allow the "memo" story to go unanswered
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 09:44 PM
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38. Can we finally IMPEACH the shrub???
*fingers crossed* :bounce:
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:26 PM
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40. I not only hope it doesn't die
but grows legs.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:07 PM
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41. bushco* only hopes it will die, which it won't. dems are starting to
grow some 'nads. We live in curious times.
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bornagainhuman Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:25 PM
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42. so if this does get big do you think he will resign or will he fight it?
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 10:02 AM
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46. What about the timeline statement? "30 days b/4 US Cong. elections"
Edited on Wed Jun-08-05 10:03 AM by krkaufman

    ... the most likely timing in US minds for military action to begin was January, with the timeline beginning 30 days before the US Congressional elections.

Aside from everything else in this memo, WHY would a British bureaucrat specify the timeline as "30 days before US Congressional elections" unless that was what was explicitly stated by US personnel? Wouldn't it be more reasonable to say "September" or "October" -- unless the Bush admin was explicitly locking the timeline to reap maximum political benefit for the mid-term elections?
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 10:06 AM
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47. "As much as we tried to kill it"
"it wouldn't die."
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 10:45 AM
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49. good, also got mentions in other MSM
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 11:23 AM
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50. The connect the dots with Bolton was well timed. WTG WP!
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