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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 09:23 PM
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Flag Desecration Amendment Crisis
and back to regularly scheduled crap from the Congress....

Flag Desecration Amendment Crisis

Congressional supporters of the so-called flag “desecration” amendment are pushing forward this week. This proposed amendment to the Constitution would betray the promise of our democracy by restricting the First Amendment. In the past we have been able to check their attempts but now, for the first time ever, there may not be enough votes in the Senate to stop it.

We need your help today to urge the House and Senate to reject this dangerous amendment. Click here to write your Representative and Senators and urge them to oppose the flag “desecration” amendment. Without your action, Congress may restrict the First Amendment for the first time in history.

Why should you care so much about this proposed amendment? It infringes on freedom of speech by placing restrictions on the First Amendment. It also sets the stage for the government to restrict other speech it might disagree with. What’s next? Amending the Constitution to prevent people from criticizing the President during times of war?

Veterans opposing this amendment have told Congress that they fought to defend free speech and the other freedoms that we hold dear. We cannot let Congress strip these freedoms using the guise of patriotism. And while few of us might support the burning of flags, we can all agree that it is much more wrong for the government to infringe on our free speech.

In 2000, we were also in a dangerous situation, but with the help of our members and our affiliates we were able to secure the wavering votes of several Senators who considered supporting the measure. We also convinced two Senators who had long voted in support of the amendment to oppose it. We need to build on this success and stop the flag desecration amendment cold.

Click here to take action and urge your Representative and Senators to defend free speech or read more here.

http://action.aclu.org/flagaction
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 09:27 PM
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1. There is a reason there are only 27 amendments.
There isn't a rats chance in hell that it will pass in 38 states.
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 09:32 PM
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3. BBV.
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 09:33 PM
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4. Whats the BBV?
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 09:40 PM
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6. Black Box Voting.
Most voting machines do not have a verifiable paper ballot. A strong case can be made that the machiens are rigged to support conservative candidates. Google BBV.
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 09:32 PM
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2. I've been predicting this for a while now:
In 2006 BBV will guarantee that the CONS will have 60 seats in the Senate. When that happens, the flag-burning amendment will be a front-burner issue.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 09:37 PM
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5. Let's go after this guy first...
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 09:45 PM
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7. lol....scary that we can recognize the back of his head....
must be the ears.
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 09:49 PM
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8. I'll agree to it on one condition.
If freedom of speech/expression is limited in this way, then I want to put an end to political campaign donations.

Every politician who runs gets an equal amount of money and media time, financed by the gov't.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 09:53 PM
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9. "financed by the gov't"
usually means financed by us the taxpayers,
which if it really meant corporations couldn't
give (yeah, when pigs fly) and we'd never receive
another call for money from any PAC or candidate
(yeah, right) would be fine with me.
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