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hangloose Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 05:59 PM
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I'm beginning to believe that picking any random person off
the street and placing them in charge of our foreign policy would be preferable to the fucking idiots we have currently running our state department.

Flushing the Koran down the toilet was really a stupid move by our nincompoops in that torture cell in Cuba
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 06:02 PM
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1. No it was brilliant
What they want to do is to flame this into 1 big all out war in the M.E. so they will have control forever, no more elections, no more
congress, just total rule by the vested interests, ABC now says it will no longer cover Iraq.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 06:17 PM
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2. Yep, is it Chomsky who says...
Edited on Fri May-13-05 06:17 PM by lostnfound
(paraphrasing) if it seems like the policy is inept and accomplished nothing, it's because we aren't understanding /accepting what the goal of the policy is.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:34 PM
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6. oh, that's really very good ...
think about that in terms of how poorly the US appears to be doing in Iraq ... Democrats keep going along and going along because they want to make things better there ...

the problem is, that's exactly the opposite of what bush is doing with all the money Democrats keep giving him ... bush is intentionally prolonging the "war" in Iraq ... ... why don't elected Democrats understand this ???????????????

or do they ??
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:41 PM
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10. Some D's are corrupt; some don't want to kill chances for reelection
(for not supporting troops) and even if some think that what you say is true, they realize that resistance by a small number of congressmen is futile, on such an issue as this which could never be conveyed to the public in sound bytes.
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brindis_desala Donating Member (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 06:19 PM
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3. This is exactly what Orwell predicted. All War All the Time
until the enemy is irrelevant and freedom is the right to do what you're told or die.
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:26 PM
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5. Right. Looking back, it is evident
It is evident that they have done nothing to quell outrage in the middle east. Didn't control looting, didn't reconstruct Iraq, didn't control weapons, using kurds as soldiers in Fallujia, didn't control borders, Boykin announcing this is a holy war, Bush using the word crusade, leveling Fallujia, Abu Ghraib, Allawi is a CIA operative, no contracts to Iraq companies, privatizing oil, building bases...on and on.

There are so many examples that it is hard to believe they are mistakes. We are fomenting hate and violence for a multitude of reasons, one of which is Iran. We are going to push Iran's hot buttons until action escalates...

Chaos, disruption, despair and part of the goal.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:52 PM
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7. we really need to reassess this
we're headed over the abyss on this.
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 06:22 PM
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4. The Koran flushing
was genuinely reflective of how much thought has gone into uncurious george's play to render the ME, the playground of America's corporations. Their MO is to achieve one, or two goals per adventure at the most), w/o consideration of adverse consequences. Either they're content to leave the cleanup of their messes to their successors, or don't really believe there will be any 'cause they're the tool of god in hastening Armageddon. The last may be a rationale to justify their part in the despoiling of our political/environmental universe. Some of them may actually believe it, for other's it's just a convenient position to take and pretty much eliminates the need for any rational analysis.

Gyre
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 07:53 PM
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8. let's hope the world intercedes
We need an umpire right now.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:25 PM
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9. Terrific sign I saw at an anti-war
march back in 2003 before we went to Iraq: This guy was walking against the flow of the march with a sign that said, "You could do a better job." He was telling everyone he bumped into that.''

"You could do a better job, " he said to me. I think he was right.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:41 PM
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11. How hard could it be?
Edited on Fri May-13-05 08:42 PM by kenny blankenship
Bush foreign policy=

Bush energy policy=

Bush employment policy=


Really, how hard could it be for a randomly selected idiot to duplicate this set of Bush policies? After all, the originals were created by a monkey.
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