Reid calls Bush a loser, then apologizes

[quaoar]

Apologizes? WTF? Bush is a loser.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/May-06-Fri-2005/news/reid.html

LESSON IN POLITICS: Reid calls president 'loser'

By ERIN NEFF
REVIEW-JOURNAL

In the course of a discussion on filibusters and Senate rules, Washington's top Democrat gave the 60 juniors a lesson in partisan politics, particularly about the commander in chief. "The man's father is a wonderful human being," Reid said in response to a question about President Bush's policies. "I think this guy is a loser.

"I think President Bush is doing a bad job," he added to a handful of chuckles.

< snip >

After the statement was released, Reid phoned the Review-Journal to acknowledge he thought he crossed the line.

"You know the president is in Europe, probably sleeping," Reid said in an interview this afternoon. "But I called (Karl) Rove and apologized for what I said."

[Dr Fate]

1. he needs to apologize for not speaking up about the UK Iraq memos.

n/t

[katinmn]

77. true. I guess 100,000 people will have to contact Ried et al

before they acknowledge it. Just sign Conyers damn letter. Strength in numbers people!

[FiveGoodMen]

2. Daschle all over again.

[Systematic Chaos]

3. OMG what a spineless dork.

He called KARL ROVE???

Does he also ask his permission to go to the bathroom?

:rofl:

[Career Prole]

19. I'm just guessin' but that might have been said

tongue-in-cheek. :D

[ClassWarrior]

59. Yeahhh... of course it was... But leave it to some DUers...

...to immediately ridicule anyone who doesn't act like a freeper.

I mean Reid said he called "Rove" fercryinoutloud. Not "Karl Rove," but "Rove." He was being a smartass.

NGU.

[phantom power]

4. What position does Rove hold,

that a Congressman should ever, ever apologize to him?

[rodeodance]

16. bush'ss buddy?

[politicasista]

5. No, don't apologize. Remember what Doc Dean said

And he is doing pretty good job.

[autorank]

6. Very clever...say it...put it out there...then apologize on technicality

There is some unwritten rule that members of congress are not supposed to piss on the President when he's overseas. This was never observed for Pres. Clinton by many but it's the 'oral tradition.'

I just think Reid is priceless. He didn't apologize for "the loser" comment, he apologized for the decorum rule, "You know the president is in Europe..." :rofl:

NEW LEADERS FOR A NEW DEMOCRATIC PARTY

[Dr Fate]

15. It would be even more "clever" to stand by your words.

He should have said:

"If anyone needs to apologize, it's that lying LOSER in the White House, for wrecking this country."

[autorank]

51. That's what we'd say (or worse, I hope). He'll get there. If not by the

end of this session, feel free to post a "Taunt autorank" thread. I'll show up personally and say "I was fucking wrong and I'm fucking pissed off."

:toast:

[Dr Fate]

79. No- I'm not up for that. I'm just upset.

Sorry- not trying to taunt you.

[OzarkDem]

68. Agree

This kind of malarkey just invites charges of waffling.

[ginnyinWI]

23. maybe he saw that episode of "West Wing"

where President Bartlett supposedly didn't know the camera was on and said that his opponent was "22-caliber in a 350 magnum world", and then was able to say he hadn't known he was on the air. But he did and the message got out, all the same. ;)

[autorank]

50. Right. That's why "West Wing's" a good show. It models reality.

[quaoar]

54. No, that's not how it's done

If you want to say something like, "Bush is a loser," you have some underling say it or some junior congressman. Then Reid could take the high road and say, "Well I wouldn't put it quite that way."

[autorank]

55. For the weak at heart, yes. Look at what Reid said about Greenspan:

Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan generally gets accolades for his public pronouncements. Yesterday he got a brickbat from Senate Minority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.), who blasted Greenspan as "one of the biggest political hacks we have here in Washington."

[gulliver]

39. (cough) loser (cough)(cough) loser (cough)

I agree with you. Well done by Reid!

[autorank]

53. (cough)smart guy(cough cough)gulliver(cough cough)

:thumbsup:

[Adelante]

56. I love it

This guy's a pistol.

[autorank]

67. I'm a "WesDem" too!

:hi:

[Adelante]

78. Hi, there

:pals:

[Warren DeMontague]

7. That's right... I think the proper term is "Scumbag"

Oh, wait, only Republican sitting members of Congress are allowed to use that term-- in reference to Democrat Presidents.

[rodeodance]

11. To: National Desk and Political Reporter (RNC reponse to Reid comment)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20050506/pl_usnw/rnc__statement_on_sen__harry_reid_s_comment_today_calling_the_president_a__loser_145_xml

1 hour, 15 minutes ago


To: National Desk and Political Reporter

Contact: Tracey Schmitt of the
Republican National Committee, 202-863-8614

WASHINGTON,.............

"Sen. Reid's comments are a sad development but not surprising from the leader of a party devoid of optimism, ideas or solutions to the issues people care about most. The President will continue reaching across party lines to save

Social Security, enact an energy policy, grow our economy and support our troops."

http://www.usnewswire.com/

-0-

/© 2005 U.S. Newswire 202-347-2770/

[ginnyinWI]

25. oh now that's funny--

"devoid of optimism, ideas or solutions to the issues people care about most"??? Hahahahahahahaha!

[Warren DeMontague]

35. Hey, at least every time our people open their mouths...

a river of unmitigated bullshit doesn't flow forth.

[katinmn]

76. RNC-- no grace at all. Reminds me of the shrieking Mrs Cheney:

"How DARE they say my daughter is gay!"

[aquart]

46. DEMOCRATIC presidents, sweetie.

Please don't let Rush determine what we call ourselves.

[Warren DeMontague]

73. Oh, Jesus.

The (D) after the name stands for Democrat. Or Democratic. Verily, I must be shilling for Rush if I don't use the proper term.

Sorry, sweetie, but on MY planet, neither is an insult.

[splat@14]

8. I'm really disappointed

"W" is not only a loser, thats his positive point. Hes a liar and people have died for those lies. He should not only have not retracted or apologize, he should have escalated his attack!

[Dr Fate]

22. OHHH NOOOO- dont you DARE call Bush a "liar"...

..that would "confuse swing voters."

[Wapsie B]

9. Apologize for nothing.

What planet is Reid on? Jesus Eff'n Christ.

:nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

[yorkiemommie1]

10. Dems apologize if they even "THINK" they offended ;just like my dogs

when Yorkie One bullies Yorkie Two, Yorkie Two gives a little growl. THEN, Yorkie Two runs after Yorkie One and kisses him all over and apologizes like hell. sound familiar, harry???

[depakid]

43. Who's the loser?

It seems to me that Harry Reid has been on the losing end of EVERY SINGLE ISSUE- and from the looks of it - intends to remain on the losing end of every issue.

So it's pretty shallow for guy who's either backed down or lost every single "fight" to go around calling Bush a loser- and then to apologize to Rove about it. I'm sure Bush is having a great laugh about that one.

On edit: I forgot- Reid hasn't been a loser on evey single issue. He broke ranks and ended up on the "winning" side of the bankruptcy bill.

[Dr Fate]

12. ny

n/t

[yo-yo-ma]

13. since when is the elder considered a "wonderful human being"?

[sadiesworld]

18. Yep.

That's the part that REALLY bugs me!

[FreedomAngel82]

40. Maybe we should all write

to him and tell him to stand up more and we all think he's a loser too. Only a loser would do the things of Bush and only a loser would keep people out of his little town hall meetings.

[Kurovski]

14. You know,

that's how the RWers do it, make a statement of your true feelings and thoughts, then apologize.

The best of both worlds. It's a fine technique, or at least it seems to work for everyone from Poppy Bush to that lordly little tugboat, Jerry Falwell.

[ginnyinWI]

26. yup--it's chess, not checkers. n/t

[rodeodance]

36. I think it was an oops-- a cleaver oops

[Kurovski]

37. Exactly.

You meant "clever", right?

I think it would serve Dems well to incorporate this method.

Lay out the opposition, walk on 'em, then give them a "Bart Simpson" style apology.

[Tigress DEM]

72. And the, "Oh, I'm sorry. Did I say that out loud?"

A lot of people on the DU ask why we can't use the rethug's tactics against them... Reid just did.

In the Senate they have all this process about how they talk to each other so even in the most heated debates they have to act like gentlemen or ladies and not devolve into a bar room brawl. If you disagree with someone you are still supposed to address them as "the distinguished gentleman" or a like moniker... so publicly calling the pResident a loser - even though since he cheated it's true - is still stepping over their line of ettiquette.

But notice, he said what he said in a very public venue and after all, the pResident got the electoral votes by hook and crook, so technically most people think of him as the Pres, so it's really the American people he was apologizing to for violating Robert's Rules of Order and sinking down to the rethug level of playing nasty.

Still, I just bet he told Karl, "Well, I'm sorry your guy IS a loser... you know it, I know it. Everybody but Chimpy knows it, but I'm sorry it slipped out like it did. We gotta keep on the issues and not get into name calling." Or some such "apology" (NOT)

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

17. Never, Never, Never, NEVER "apologize by proxy" to FUCKING ROVE.

Sorry, folks. I know some people drive around with a miniature statue of Reid on their dashboards, so I don't want to offend them, but Never, Never, NEVER "apologize by proxy" to FUCKING ROVE.



NEVER.

:grr:

[quaoar]

21. Rove should be

breaking rocks in a penal colony. reid owes him nothing.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

24. Rove will ONLY acknowledge ANY "apology" as a sign of WEAKNESS.

That's IT.

He sees things in black and white.

Those he can CRUSH, those he CANNOT crush.

NO gray area. You bend over for Rove or you do not.

Reid added himself to the "crush" list with that little kiss on Rove's cheek.

:grr:

[ginnyinWI]

28. well, who cares what turdblossom thinks?

It's the media he's playing to. ;)

[Name removed]

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[quaoar]

30. OMG

The picture that created in my head.... LOL

[Kurovski]

34. Cornholio speaks truth to power.

:hi:

[Sparkly]

60. I see that differently. I think it's rather funny.

Why did he apologize to Rove, and not the Chimp himself?

Because the Chimp is created and operated by Rove.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

20. He should said "I am so sorry that President Bush is a loser. I..

really am."

:woohoo:

[Gyre]

29. No question he's a 'loser' in one sense.

But he beat our asses last year. 'Beat' in the sense that he was awarded the prize (regardless of HOW it happened), not us.

Like it or not, while beating us in the vote and stealing the election (by theft) should equal 'loser', the evidence of 'stealing' the vote, or the circumstances that make that seem likely, never made it to the fore of American consciousness. Hence, The People lost the big enchilada.

That being said, he IS the kind of punk we used to, or wanted to beat up in Jr. High. Hence, he is a 'loser' in that social sense.

Gyre

[w13rd0]

31. Reid didn't do a damn thing wrong....

...he said Bush is a loser, that he is doing a bad job. Did he call Rove and apologize while Bush was in Europe taking a nap with his special pillow? Why call Rove? Why not? Yes I'm dissappointed more haven't spoken about the UK memo, but dissappointment is better than distraught. And right now, with four more years of Bush and lord knows what else that bastard has in store for us, I'll take what I can get.

[Southsideirish]

32. Mother of God, would they stop with the friggin' apologies!

[Vickers]

33. "I'm sorry he's a loser."

:spank::spank::spank::spank::spank::spank::spank:

[jobycom]

38. Well, it's either apologize or have someone else open your mail for the

rest of your life. And your door. And stay off planes. And let everyone know you aren't suicidal...

[Cha]

41. Did dickcheney apologize for

telling Pat Leahy to go fuck himself on the Senate floor? Hell No! he went on fauxsux and said he felt better!

Dems are too damn polite! Poor Harry..calls bush the LOSER that he is and then feels like shyte!

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

42. He should have just said "fuck off" - that doesn't require an apology

does it, Dick?

[Crunchy Frog]

47. I believe it's "go fuck yourself" that doesn't require an apology

in the world of Dick.

[alcuno]

44. He didn't take it back.

Reid apologized, but he didn't take it back.

[demgrrrll]

45. That's how I see it. He got the Bush=Loser thought process out there.

Hey Bush is a loser... I keed, I keed... I have no problem with the MSM and anyone else who has a mike repeating Bush is a loser no matter how they spin it.

[Deaniac20]

48. he's got some balls

Even tho he wound up apologizing, just the fact he would even let that slip outta his mouth is why he is an effective party leader. he makes Tom Daschle look like a little baby who was afraid say anything. He's got balls, and I like him. He is why we will eventually find our way back to power.

[Kurovski]

49. This is a good discussion.

Recommended.

[bunny planet]

52. It was more civil than 'Go Cheney yourself' when Dick the Dark Lord said

it to Senator Leahy. And besides that, it was true. There was no need to apologize.

[thebigidea]

57. he should have used the Republican excuse: "Sorry if you were offended"

apologizing to Rove?

good lord.

[Neshanic]

58. Golly, I hope Reid lets us in on his game of the chessmasters.

Unfreakingbelievable.

What a savy political move. A stroke of genius! Call him a loser then call Rove to apologize. This is greatness in our midst! This will turn the tables on those bad guys.

They will learn not to mess with Reid...he's a diabolical master.

Meanwhile Rove just hangs up after the call and orders room service.

If you are going to apologize Reid, do it the Republican way, like another poster said....and by all means do not make it to Rove, you nitwit.

[ClassWarrior]

61. I guess it's true - some liberals really DON'T have a sense of humor.

<LOL> Reid was making a joke. A joke. Heard of it?

NGU.

[Sparkly]

63. Okay, now I feel stupid.

I kept hearing that he apologized to Rove, stated as fact. Was he kidding? I don't have a problem with it either way, but I'd love it even more if he were kidding.

[Kurovski]

65. To me, it seems as though Reid was rubbing it in

Rove's face. It's the same tactics Rove's party has used for years.

A great move. Keep it up.

[Sparkly]

66. I agree, but was it a joke that he even called Rove? Or not?

I thought he actually did. :shrug:

Either way, I think it's great. :D I didn't know much about Harry before, and he seemed so timid. But he's showing me he's anything BUT.

[ClassWarrior]

70. He said, "I called Rove and apologized."

If he's using the man's surname, that doesn't sound very humble to me. Actually, it sounds rather facetious.

<LOL>

NGU.

[Sparkly]

62. I think it's quite funny that he apologized to Rove, and not the Chimp.

As I posted above, it points out the fact that the Chimp is created and operated by Rove.

Besides, it's like making a statement and having the judge instruct the jury to disregard it. It was already heard -- and he didn't exactly back down from the substance of it.

I like Harry more all the time!

[Neshanic]

64. The average schmoe will get the nuance. Reid is diabolical.

[ClassWarrior]

71. You can't tell this is an obvious joke, and you're...

...ridiculing others about not getting nuance?? <LOL>

NGU.

[understandinglife]

69. Want to see what the murderer Bu$h has achieved

Just one example of what the illegitimate mr bu$h has achieved -- an illegal war and countless crimes against humanity

And, I will NEVER RETRACT THAT STATEMENT.

Support PDAmerica's effort to get the truth out:

http://www.pdamerica.org/field/Press-Release-Bush-Blair.php

Peace.


www.missionnotaccomplished.us - STOP THE ATROCITIES; INDICT AND PROSECUTE BU$H AND ALL THE OTHER WAR CRIMINALS

[fooj]

74. They turned a war hero into a LOSER...I didn't hear any apologies!

"The man's father is a wonderful human being?" Who slipped him the kool-aid? Define wonderful! OMG...give me a break! Just when I think that we've finally got it going on...


Peace.

[Festivito]

75. Good people don't say the emperor is naked SO harshly.

And, so they apologize for being harsh. Not for being truthful.

EDIT: I need glasses and won't admit it to my self. Spelling.

[gulfcoastliberal]

80. Reid is just as much a loser as Bush

What a nincompoop. The kneepads are getting scruffed up quickly.