are people of faith being silenced by secularists? Fox is having a dis-

[rodeodance]

cussion.

[Catch22Dem]

1. I hope so

I'm tired of hearing that sectarian turmoil. If only we had some kind of missile! :evilgrin:

[rodeodance]

2. also asking if Senior cadets are saying--I do not care if you are

a Wiccan, a ...SAY this prayer!! The person said NO. Everyone can be silent.

[atommom]

3. If they *were* silenced, there'd be no discussion

and I'd be doing less cussin.'

[noamnety]

4. Silenced?

They seem to have taken over the airwaves.

In some cases, literally.

[deadparrot]

5. Oh, gods.

Give me a goddamn break.

I'm a Christian, but give me a goddamn break nonetheless.

[gratuitous]

6. Agreed

I've never been silenced because of my faith. I've been asked to be quiet when I've been rude or inappropriate, but I never confused that transitory behavior with my faith.

Some people are apparently not so blessed with such discernment.

[blondeatlast]

9. Wish I had said that. Another Christian who calls bullshit. nt

[zbdent]

7. It's all those damn Sunday Morning Atheist shows

and the Saturday Akron Beacon Journal Anti-Religion pages.

And don't forget that the comic strip B.C. presents only evolution . . .

And Family Circus always makes jokes about sacrificing PJ to Satan . . .

And all the Atheist radio stations out there . . .

[cookiebird]

10. So, your read the BJ

too? LOL..and Foxtrot constantly lauds the run-away liberal media...particularly Star Wars. and Funky Winkerbean thinks alcohol consumption is a 'good thing'. :hippie:

[blondeatlast]

11. Damn that Fred Phelps and his "My non-existent spiritual divinity

hates fags!" cult!

Snickering at my own joke, excuse me...

[Sparkly]

8. I'm beginning to with a lot of them were, frankly.

:hide:

[LittleClarkie]

12. No people of faith are being silenced by people of faith

because they can't accept that one can be a Democrat and a Christian.

I'm feeling rather silenced, actually. Relegated to second class Christianhood. Get to the back of the bus. You're not far enough to the right to be Christian.

Never fear, the Radical Right will speak for you.

Some of the judges these people say are out of control are both Republican and Christian. Just not their brand of Christian apparently.

[Chemical Bill]

15. The silencers have no faith

If they had real faith they would not feel threatened by disagreements. If they had faith they would admit the possibility that they don't know everything.

Bill

[LittleClarkie]

20. They feel threatened by knowledge as well

I say if your faith can't stand up to some knowledge, it's kinda weak.

[LittleClarkie]

13. Another thought

As Chris Matthews said once, only a Republican can talk for 20 minutes and then say they've not been heard.

The Christian Right has been pretty damn loud for a group of people who think they're being silenced.

It's the victimhood thing again, I reckon.

[Roland99]

14. "Justice Sunday"...need I say more? The REAL problem is...

The silencing is going the other way.


If they don't want to feel persecuted, they should keep their religion to themselves where it belongs.



I'll tell you what the REAL problem is.

The problem with these assholes is that their faith is incredibly weak. It's built on top of layer upon layer of propaganda. They go to church for an hour or two every Sunday morning and feel all good and prideful for another week until they repeat the process the next week.

These charlatans go looking for trouble and trying to pick fights, esp. re: wedge issues (abortion, same-sex marriage, etc.) in order to claim some fraudulent victory they then use to bolster their weak faith and claim victory for Jesus.



Fucking idiots.

[Hippo_Tron]

16. Sure, BTW us secularists are all Jews and we LOVE Anal Sex

And I mean LOVE it.

[annabanana]

17. "People of Faith" are noisier than I have ever heard in my entire life!!

They never friggen shut up. Oh, and they are REALLY "People of Frist"

[riverwalker]

18. yes, tell them all to STFU n/t

[LastDemocratInSC]

19. My dear Uncle Hal said this about faith ...

My dear Uncle Hal has been gone for three years now. At his memorial service his pastor recounted discussions with Hal about faith. In those discussions my Uncle had challenged the pastor saying that faith, in the end, means "not having a clue about anything but deciding for oneself about everything". The pastor didn't contest this during the memorial service when most preachers would have just turned up the volume. I suppose there's a place in glory for Lutherans after all.

Faith means not knowing. My Uncle Hal understood that. Faithful believers just decide for themselves what is and what is not. That's the difference between believers and secularists. Believers say declaratively what has been and will be while secularists wait to learn what has been and might be.

One of my colleagues lost a brother at an early age and is heartened by the thought that he will see his brother at another time and place in the hereafter. I'm not the kind of person to throw cold water on that person's wants and needs. My friend's belief that he will see his young brother is a beautiful thing - and I envy that in a way - but I can't say that I think it will happen.

Faith means not having a clue and deciding for oneself. Let's accept that. It's the ultimate selfishness, and it isn't pretty. It's the ultimate case of saying that your experience, now and forever, must be everyone's experience, now and forever.

Why do so many flock to it? It is because of hurt and pain? It is because of promised hope and redemption from childhood years?

I know that I can't do it. That's all I have to say on this. I suppose that I wish I could, but that's just a wish, like so many others ...

[GRLMGC]

21. Well considering they run this country

I would have to say no

[nickgutierrez]

22. And this is the elephant in the room in this argument.

I think it's awfully hard for a group to be silenced when they essentially run 2/3 of the government.

[GRLMGC]

23. It's so ridiculous

I swear they say these things, in all their ridiculousness, just to piss us off. Either that, or they are really, really stupid

[nickgutierrez]

24. *cough* Number 2! *cough*

:evilgrin:

[GRLMGC]

25. Probably

haha

[mitchum]

26. Yes, every Sunday I go into the temples where they worship their magic...

skygod and gag them. Ridiculous.

[NVMojo]

27. Faux pot stirring for the White House again ...sigh....