How about this for an E-mail...

[The Doctor.]

{gonna see who pays attention}

{tell the marines}

Please help put a stop to Judicial Activism!

In these times of wanton immorality and rampant prejudice against God’s will, we have found ourselves beset by Judges who have no accountability, no moral compass, and no restraint at all.
These morally unhindered people are interpreting the laws of our land only as they see fit and in such a way that strikes at the very heart of our democracy.

We must put a stop to this.

Our founding Fathers cannot be faulted, for they could not have seen that, in drafting the Constitution, there would be no recourse for the Christian values our great Nation was founded upon. In their attempt to protect the rights of the citizenry to worship as good Christians, they allowed a glaring error that they could not have foreseen. This glaring error is now being exploited by these activist Judges to allow the abominations of same-sex marriage and abortion.

This is an affront to every moral Christian in America and abroad, as well as an insult to God and Jesus Christ our Lord.

If these judges are allowed to continue to decide cases and set precedent based solely on their own interpretation of the Constitution and without the Christian moral guidance of The Bible, we will become a soulless and Godless America.

We are beginning to see progress on this issue. Good, moral Republicans are standing up against the anti-Christian democrats who have besieged 10 of our President’s nominees with the antiquated ‘filibuster’ that allows them to play havoc with the will of the people. Those brave Republicans are trying to give the nominees a fair and balanced simple majority vote in the Senate. But the Democrats are using every dirty trick they can to quash the will of the people by holding up the appointments of those judges for no other reason than they are good Christians. Luckily, it seems likely that they will succeed in getting rid of the abusive filibuster, but that is not enough.

Call your Representatives today and demand that they begin the process of putting morality back into the heart of America. Tell them that there must be an amendment to the constitution that demands that judges must have good Christian values and interpret the Constitution in accordance with those moral values.

Otherwise we might lose this great nation to the tyranny of secularism.

Thank you, and God Bless,

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contact your Senators;
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

contact your Representatives;
http://www.house.gov/

So, think any of the fundies will figure this out?
Or will they spread it around the net?


{OE} - There... a little tweak. How far do you think I could push this into a call for a blatant constitutional violation?

I'd love ideas.

[EC]

1. They'll spread it around, but they'll still

miss it...the ones they send it too will be as stupid as the sender...



"Otherwise we might lose this great nation to the tyranny of secularism."

[Roland99]

2. It'll sail high over their heads

[The Doctor.]

4. The point would be exactly that...

To plant that 'anti-constitution' seed and maybe wake a few rational humans up.

I love the image of Congressmen and Senators being deluged with calls to write Christianity into the Constitution.
Perhaps then they will see just how far off course we are.

I think I'll send it around.

[punpirate]

3. What's to figure out?

This is right down their alley. All the right buzzwords, and specifically ignores the Constitutional dictum against religious tests for office. They couldn't ask for more.

Again, what's for them to figure out? That's you're putting them on? They won't think of it that way. And they'll ignore the misinformation and treat it all as fact. They'll start calling everyone demanding a Constitutional amendment....

Irony is lost on the true believer.

[The Doctor.]

5. That would be the point.

I'd love to get these people to push for what they really want; Christian Baptist and Old Testament laws.

I want them to be much less careful with how they 'frame' their message and say what they really want - an American Christian Theocracy.

Maybe even a few of them would wake up.

[punpirate]

6. The point is... they won't...

... as long as you feed them the same thing their leaders feed them. It's not a matter of them "waking up." The most fanatical of them believe these things. They really do. They honestly believe that the country was founded as a "Christian nation," even though all the evidence suggests otherwise.

They are already pushing for what they want--the only moderation present is that which their political/religious leaders think can be tolerated at any given time. The ultimate end, through gradual steps, is theocracy for the benefit of the wealthy and power-hungry.

Less careful about "framing?" These people's leaders already have a direct line into the White House and Congress now. For what more could they ask?

The people attempting these fundamental, anti-Constitutional moves don't care about the Constitution. They really don't. They believe that science is a religious belief system in opposition to theirs. They believe secularism is a religion in opposition to theirs. They believe, ultimately, that the Constitution is an impediment to their beliefs.

Their leaders are engaging in a sophistry they don't understand, along these lines: the government guarantees freedom of religion, and our religion says that it should be the basis for government, so attempts to prevent us from controlling the government is an abridgement of our religious rights.

It's just as goofy as that.

[The Doctor.]

7. Very well said.

Covered all my avenues as well. ;)

"If another belief system starts to make sense - you must believe even more in your belief system to counter theirs."

Yes, since the greater context is absolutely adversarial, then there is little or no room for reason.

I'm still looking for the 'reason switch' in those I consider intelligent... and I will continue to try.

I have found it before- then they do not speak to me for days.

I consider that a good sign... even if the condition is temporary.

{OE} - Oh yeah, almost forgot...

I updated the OP to ask for advice on how far to push the pretense envelope where I could entrap enough people to outright call for the legislation of 'Christianity'.

I think if we could help run them off the cliff they're headed for - we might save countless others with a nice wave of realization.

[punpirate]

8. The problems, as I perceive them...

... are what constitutes faith, and what reason is employed in considering faith and society. For many of these people, faith (because of the Biblical obligation to spread the Gospel) is proselytizing for their religion--they simply don't see any separation of church and state in that regard.

Second, reason takes second place to faith in the fundamentalist framework. Whatever common-sense notions about government and society they may have are of diminished importance compared to faith.

I'm afraid that those you perceive as intelligent, but who subscribe to this theocratic regimen of thought, really aren't, or, at the very least, are so uneducated in the country's government and history that they can't determine fact from fiction.

For that reason, I always try to come back to the facts. Faith may prevent such people from acknowledging those facts, but the first principles in changing someone's mind are to challenge their notions of fact and to encourage them to think in new ways. In the instance of fundamentalists, it's necessary to go back to their inerrant basis for their facts--the Bible.

It doesn't always work. Many fundamentalists will selectively ignore much of what Jesus said in favor of the Old Testament and the sacrificial nature of the crucifixion. But, as regards the religious crazies, I think that's the only way to make them think--to emphasize what is in the Bible that they've been encouraged by the televangelists to ignore. Once one gets them thinking again about those words, they may think less about what they're being fed by the demagogues.

Cheers.

[The Doctor.]

9. Yep... looking for the 'Reason switch'.

:toast:

Good luck to you too.
I'll post any progress.

[punpirate]

10. The "reason switch" may be...

... very difficult to find in an age in which reason is so roundly seen as subversive. :)

In more private moments, I often think that the only way that the fundamentalists will see the errors in their judgements will be when they themselves are negatively affected by what they ardently supported as a matter of what they conceived to be faith.

Unfortunately, by that time in history, a lot of others may suffer, as well.

Cheers.