Will the press spend as much time on the Howard and Judy Dean interview as

[patricia92243]

they did on the "war cry".

I'll be curious to see. What little bit of time they probably do spend on it will be to take any sentence out of context- make it a negative - and harp on this some more.

Want to bet that I am right? (I hope to lose the bet.)

[dsc]

1. Of course you are right

the press is out of control and too many here are amused because it is Howard they were after. Trust me, they will be doing this to the rest starting with Kerry.

[vi5]

2. I loved it and hated it....I wished they had done it earlier....

I loved it because I finally got to see them as a warm couple, two intelligent, caring people, and I got a more nuanced look into Dean as a person.

However, i hate that this wonderful woman who has her own career and her own life, of just as much importance as her husband had to bring herself into the limelight no matter how uncomfortable it made her, because our country somehow deems the "stand by your man" wife as something that they want. BS! Why should she have had to do this?

My only comfort comes in knowing that it did have a positive impact on my perceptions of them so maybe it did for other people as well.

In the interest of honesty, I'm not a Dean supporter (as most on here know). But as I've also mentioned if Dean goes down I want it to be because the voters in our party saw his positions and simply didn't agree. Not because of stupid things like the "war cry" or the temper or any of those unguarded moments.

[bearfartinthewoods]

3. unguarded moments

your use of that phrase...an unguarded moment gives a peek behind the curtain of the campaign personae....the real inner person.

why do you feel this is not a valid consideration when picking a candidate? leaving the anger/slam that's been laid on dean, i look for those moments. i want to know what's really in the package rather than being distracted by the pretty paper and ribbons in which the candidate is wrapped by staff and protocol.

[vi5]

4. I understand your thinking and don't entirely disagree....

I'm not saying if people see it and judge for themselves that it should be a factor. I guess I should have been more specific in that I was more referring to the media pounding of an unguarded moment. People saw it. If they use that moment that they saw for themselves to make a decision then I have no problem with that. But when most people won't have seen it for themselves but will hear the media pounding on it time and time again then I think that's a fairly different animal.

As I said, I'm not a Dean supporter. I just don't particularly like what the media did with that particular moment. I think most of the stuff they focused on in the past has been fair game and worthy of further examination. This....just not so much.

[bearfartinthewoods]

5. no fan of dean's either but i also agree that the circus that was

created over the speech is useless exploitation.

[Eloriel]

12. with all due respect, vi5

As I said, I'm not a Dean supporter. I just don't particularly like what the media did with that particular moment. I think most of the stuff they focused on in the past has been fair game and worthy of further examination. This....just not so much.

I applaud and support your attitude, and agree. If Dean goes down, I don't want it to be because of dirty tricks including distortions -- by the other candidates, or the media, or the GOP.

But what I wanted to point out -- objectively -- is that "most of the stuff they focused on in the past" has been similarly unfair and skewed. The difference is with THIS incident, people could clearly see for themselves enough of the whole context, despite the media hoopla and spin, to say to themselves, "Wait a minute -- what's wrong with a pep rally?"

In many other cases (not all), the general public was not given the context. In some of those cases, admittedly, one has to understand a little about Dean's communication style -- which, unfortunately, DOES lend itself his getting esily misinterpreted -- but IMO that doesn't excuse the media from providing enough context that their "reporting" isn't, in the final analysis, a lie.

I've seen people here at DU whom I've so admired and respected in the past call Dean a liar. That couldn't be farther from the truth. Even the supposed "flip flops" have been mostly manufactured and spun (a good many of them taken out of context) and others representing an evolving understanding of both the issue involved and what America needs. I hope it's not true that one is supposed to take a position on each issue for all time and never ever come to a better understanding of it.

Don't know if I'm making any sense, but I hope so. The real message is that this is what will happen to ANYone who's the frontrunner. Some candidates may be less prone to provide the ammunition, but there's plenty of ammunition out there on ALL of them.

I'm glad to see there are sensible and fair supporters of other candidates at DU repudiating the media spin on this. Makes me have some faith in DU again.

Some.

[HuckleB]

6. Is the interview available online anywhere?

We were stunned by how well they came across. But, yes, I suspect the media will ignore it, splicing it out of context, if anything.

[Lisa0825]

7. yes, here it is....

http://www.deanforamerica.com/judyandhoward

[HuckleB]

8. Gracias.

[Uzybone]

9. Why should they?

they dont work for Howard Dean. Thier job is the slash the Democrat and praise the Republican. Theyve been doing that for at least the past 10 years. Dean supporters looking for pity from this partisan press are wasting thier time.

[BurtWorm]

10. No one's looking for pity.

We're looking for pitiless attacks against the useless gasbags in the media.

[creativelcro]

11. Judy Dean is awesome... Even if I like Hillary, with her I always have

the thought that she's calculating all she says. Judy seems too authentic to be doing that.