Fascism in America? Can it happen here? Jim Garrison and Huey Long...

[Stand and Fight]

"In a very real and terrifying sense, our Government is the CIA and the Pentagon, with Congress reduced to a debating society. Of course, you can't spot this trend to fascism by casually looking around. You can't look for such familiar signs as the swastika, because they won't be there. We won't build Dachaus and Auschwitzes; the clever manipulation of the mass media is creating a concentration camp of the mind that promises to be far more effective in keeping the populace in line. We're not going to wake up one morning and suddenly find ourselves in gray uniforms goose-stepping off to work. But this isn't the test. The test is: What happens to the individual who dissents? In Nazi Germany, he was physically destroyed; here, the process is more subtle, but the end results can be the same.

I've learned enough about the machinations of the CIA in the past year to know that this is no longer the dreamworld America I once believed in. The imperatives of the population explosion, which almost inevitably will lessen our belief in the sanctity of the individual human life, combined with the awesome power of the CIA and the defense establishment, seem destined to seal the fate of the America I knew as a child and bring us into a new Orwellian world where the citizen exists for the state and where raw power justifies any and every immoral act. I've always had a kind of knee-jerk trust in my Government's basic integrity, whatever political blunders it may make. But I've come to realize that in Washington, deceiving and manipulating the public are viewed by some as the natural prerogatives of office. Huey Long once said, "Fascism will come to America in the name of anti-fascism." I'm afraid, based on my own experience, that fascism will come to America in the name of national security."

-- Excerpt from Jim Garrison's Playboy interview in October 1967


http://www.jfklancer.com/Garrison4.html

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Populist Huey Long was once asked during the Great Depression if he thought the U.S. could succumb to fascism.
Long, known for his wit, gave a revealing response: "Yes, but in America, we'll call it anti-fascism."

Thankfully, fascism did not take root in America...

MORE HERE:

http://www.newsmax.com/articles/?a=2000/5/3/23917

[Stand and Fight]

1. Kick

[CanuckAmok]

2. Good read...thanks for that.

It made me think of that Winston Smith collage artwork of the rally at Nurenburg, but with all the swastikas replaced by yellow happy-faces.

[Stand and Fight]

3. No problem...

It is important to me that people around here know that they are not alone in their worries, that they are not insane when they see the signs of fascism in our country, and that others in history have seen the symptoms of the cancer and given a diagnosis and prognosis.

[Larkspur]

4. Long's was a great quote, but unfortunately Huey Long was a Totalitarian

himself. Long was more of a Stalinist type than a fascist, but Huey did to Louisiana in the 1920's-30's what Tom Dely is doing to Texas. In fact it was probably Long's Populist and popular appeal that made FDR move quicker on implementing his New Deal. Long was going to challenge FDR for the Dem nomination in 1936, but Long was assasinated before then.

[Stand and Fight]

6. You've got that right Larkspur...

What's the old saying from the school yard? "It takes one to know one." That in and of itself should give us pause to worry and cause to react before it is too late.

[Enquiringkitty]

34. He did a lot for his state; paved the roads, built bridges, turned

in-town swamps into neighborhoods for low income families. That was a big deal at that time.

[Just Me]

5. "Concentration camp of the mind".

I'll never forget that one,...ever!!!

[Stand and Fight]

7. Indeed! I have it up on my wall at work to remind me... n/t

[Just Me]

10. I don't know about you but,....

,...when I realized just how manipulated my own thinking had been by outside sources (specifically, of course, the media) and began the journey of being self-informed,...it really threw me for a loop!!! It completely and permanently changed my world.

[Stand and Fight]

12. Yes... We're in the same boat it seems. n/t

[hootinholler]

30. Yeah, but is the boat getting smaller or just filling up?

I'm trying to figure out how to reach people like my Mom and Uncles who are totally wrapped up in the media.

-Hoot

[Stand and Fight]

31. Well, Hoot...

I don't know the answer to your question, but I can say that so far we have a passenger manifest of thousands... Pray our vessel can weather the storm that threatens to capsize our liberty and freedom.

[EVDebs]

8. 'Foundations in place for martial law in US' article in the

Sydney Herald www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/07/27/1027497418339.html

""On July 20 the Detroit Free Press ran a story entitled "Arabs in US could be held, official warns". The story referred to a member of the US Civil Rights Commission who foresaw the possibility of internment camps for Arab Americans. FEMA has practised for such an occasion.

FEMA, whose main role is disaster response, is also responsible for handling US domestic unrest. From 1982-84 Colonel Oliver North assisted FEMA in drafting its civil defence preparations. Details of these plans emerged during the 1987 Iran-Contra scandal.

They included executive orders providing for suspension of the constitution, the imposition of martial law, internment camps, and the turning over of government to the president and FEMA.""

This was also predicated upon the (Tom) Huston Plan from Watergate days that Nixon was using to consolidate intelligence with during wartime. Bush has accomplished what Nixon started. KEY WORDS--SUSPENSION OF THE CONSTITUTION.

[Stand and Fight]

13. Terrifying, is it not?

Are you familiar with what retired General Tommy Franks has said about what could happen here in the event of another terrorist attack?

[mattclearing]

25. But didn't Reagan have Executive Orders to that effect?

I wouldn't give GWB credit for something that was done in the mid-80's.

I'm of the impression that Oliver North's recommendations were made into drafted, unsigned executive orders that would effectively suspend the Constitution in the event of a major catastrophe such as a nuclear attack.

I forget where I read this, but at any rate, they have been in the glovebox waiting to be pulled out ever since.

I can't remember if they left them in the desk for Clinton to find, though. I kinda doubt it.

:eyes:

[Stand and Fight]

26. Your impression is actually correct.

And based on fact. Just research it. However, I am 99% certain that your impression is on the money. I'm just too lazy to research it right at the moment.

[mattclearing]

27. As am I.

But I know I read it somewhere, and that's the kinda thing that guarantees some tossin' and turnin'.

[Sapphire Blue]

9. Can and is

[Stand and Fight]

14. Damn right.

The sad thing is that most Americans have no idea what the hell is going on here, and to make it even worse, most of them are apathetic at best when the subject matter is breached.

[Sapphire Blue]

18. Beating the drum again....

The Yurica Report

http://www.yuricareport.com/


George Bush and the Rise of Christian Fascism

http://216.197.101.64/trinity/pictures/GB%20andtheriseofchristianfascismrejune04.pdf

[Stand and Fight]

32. ...

[thecai]

33. Stand And Fight

It is truly sad, so many "Americans have no idea what the hell is going on here..." The public is being so deceived.
We MUST repeal the patriot acts. THAT is the tool being used to manipulate citizens into giving up our Rights WILLINGLY, after which we can never get them back. The patriot acts are equivalent to hitler's enabling act. It is our duty as American citizens to DEFEND The Constitution, and NOT let fear-tactics destroy it.
"Woe unto those that call evil good, and good evil..."

[Stand and Fight]

35. thecai

You're very correct in your estimation of the danger that the Patriot Act(s) represent. It is my deepest concern that the heinous laws will be passed again along with what is commonly known as the "Patriot Act III," as both Bush and the Al "The Torturer" Gonzalez have called for it being renewed... We live in extraordinarily grave times, but as you stated, most Americans don't care or don't know. I fear that the majority simply don't care because they simply don't know.

[pacalo]

11. I do remember Garrison going after Clay Shaw when I was a child.

I remember the media painting him as a nutcase for going after the innocently-portrayed Clay Shaw.

I remember my dad bought Garrison's book, On the Trail of the Assassins, which was used as the basis of Oliver Stone's JFK. I wish my dad, who died in 1982, were here to discuss today's political climate with me.

Looking at what's happening now, Garrison's quote was right on:

"I'm afraid, based on my own experience, that fascism will come to America in the name of national security."

[gordianot]

21. Yes, and that was the so called "liberal" press who smeared him.

[mattclearing]

15. Awesome quote.

Thanks for this. I will read it later.

[Stand and Fight]

16. Glad to be of service...

Please do read later and comment. I feel that this is really important.

[mattclearing]

17. Is Garrison still around? n/t

[Stand and Fight]

19. No...

Unfortunately, he passed away in 1992, I believe.

ON EDIT:

October 21, 1992 to be precise.

[mattclearing]

20. Thanks.

God bless true patriots.

[Disturbed]

22. It is happening and the Bush Junta call it Freedom.

George W. Bush is Similar to Benito Mussolini

"A conservative, authoritarian style, with public appearances in military uniform (which no previous American president has ever done while in office). Government by secrecy, propaganda and deception. Open assaults on labor unions and workers' rights. Preemptive war and militant nationalism. Contempt for international law and treaties. Suspiciously convenient "terrorist" attacks, to justify a police state and the suspension of liberties. A carefully manufactured image of "The Leader," who's still just a "regular guy" and a "moderate."

"Freedom" as the rationale for every action. Fantasy economic growth, based on unprecedented budget deficits and massive military spending.
And a cold, pragmatic ideology of fascism-including the violent suppression of dissent and other human rights; the use of torture, assassination and concentration camps; and most important, Benito Mussolini's preferred definition of "fascism" as "corporatism, because it binds together the interests of corporations and the state." T. Hartman

[mattclearing]

28. That's a fantastic picture.

Kinda reminds me of the one of Bush with the halo.

[Disturbed]

29. Yeah, that photo says a lot.

I stole it from antoher poster. hehe

[mattclearing]

24. You are right, this is quite important.

An even more important quote:

"What worries me deeply, and I have seen it exemplified in this case, is that we in America are in great danger of slowly evolving into a proto-fascist state.

"It will be a different kind of fascist state from the one of the Germans evolved; theirs grew out of depression and promised bread and work, while ours, curiously enough, seems to be emerging from prosperity. But in the final analysis, it's based on power and on the inability to put human goals and human conscience above the dictates of the state.

"Its origins can be traced in the tremendous war machine we've built since 1945, the 'military-industrial complex' that Eisenhower vainly warned us about, which now dominates every aspect of our life."

"The power of the states and Congress has gradually been abandoned to the Executive Department, because of war conditions; and we've seen the creation of an arrogant, swollen bureaucratic complex totally unfettered by the checks and balances of the Constitution."

[Stand and Fight]

23. Kick

[Binka]

36. Chilling

I added the entire interview to my favorites. Thanks S&F.

[Stand and Fight]

37. No prob... n/t

[kodi]

38. Orcinus has the best reports on fascism-american style

http://www.dneiwert.blogspot.com/

several essays on fascism running 20,000 words strong in pdf formate are available on site.

read it every day and learn about what the right is doing to destroy the country

[Stand and Fight]

39. Thanks kodi!

I will be sure to read this as soon as possible!