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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:26 PM
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Pat Buchanan- "Homosexuality Is Immoral, Unnatural, And Wrong"
He said homosexuality was part of the "culture of death."


I can't believe some folks embraced him because he trashed the neocons on Meet The Press...


He is 100x worse than Bush and the neocons...
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:27 PM
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1. GE and Tweety will do anything to avoid the "real news"
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:27 PM
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2. completely agree
and he is an anti-semite of epic proportions.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:15 PM
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22. Wasn't Buchanan defending Gannon's "private life" last week?
Boy, you need a scorecard to keep these Republican hypocrites' stories straight.
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:24 PM
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24. And someone ask Pat about partying with Roy Cohn
At Roger Stone's house in Alezandria, Va. July, 1983.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:00 PM
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42. ???
Not familiar with the reference?

enlighten?
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:28 PM
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3. they are both just as bad in different ways
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:30 PM
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5. I Diagree...
I think some of the neocons are misguided... Wilsonian internationalists on steroids if you will....


I thank Pat Buchanan is a hater....


Big difference...
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:29 PM
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27. The neocons hate too...
...us, for instance.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 12:09 PM
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36. the neocons are NOT misguided
They are are nazis

They are in the processing of destroying our democracy

They have all ready gotten rid of due process

THIS IS NOT "MISGUIDED"
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:28 PM
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4. Buchanan has a long record of hating gays and lesbians
A few criticisms of Bush do NOT make him an ally of mine.
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:32 PM
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6. Tweety was sweating - let's go to commercial - quick!
Pat just said it was OK for states to outlaw homosexuality again. Yeah, Pat - prohibition really worked 70 years ago!
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:32 PM
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7. Buchanan seems to hate everybody
Gays, Jews, social conservatives, neocons and even us Canadians (from whom I acquired my DU name).
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:59 PM
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29. Yeah, I love your name. I've searched the web for a T-shirt
with Canuckistan on it, but with no luck. I will be in BC (Vancouver Island, to be exact) this summer -- do you have any idea where I can get a Canuckistan T-shirt?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:33 PM
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8. why do you think he voted for Bush
abortion, gays, god etc.

we can all see that understands how wrong the war and other parts of Bush's foreign policy is but he still voted for him because of these cultural/social issues.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:34 PM
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9. And Your Party Does A Great Job Hiding It...
Free yourself for God's sakes!
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Mugweed Donating Member (939 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:35 PM
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10. A connection
to homosexuality and a culture of death is Jeff Gannon!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:27 PM
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25. On "Hardball"
Matthews talked like two minutes about Gannon and Robertson was defending him. I wonder how he feels defending a gay man.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:36 PM
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11. For all the effort he puts into condemning gays...
I have to wonder whether he keeps a map in his car, with all the truck stops and rest areas for a 100 mile radius of his home marked in bright highlighter.

Methinks he doth protest too much...
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:37 PM
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12. So is Republicanism these days: immoral, unnatural and wrong.
And the biggest "culture of death" going these day is fundamentalist Xtianity.

So, your point was what, Pat?
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:38 PM
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13. Pat is a Catholic, and that is the teaching of the Church.
He's arguing his position, and he has every right to do that. I don't think the US laws should be based upon ANY religion, and I don't think they are. I'm also a Catholic, and though I believe the same as Pat, I am not being forced to do homosextual acts, have an abortion, or pull the lever in an execution! I don't understand why Catholics, or any other religion insists that everybody else adopt their beliefs! If you don't agree with an issue, just don't do it!
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:40 PM
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14. then he better inform all those gay penguins and other gay animals
throughout nature that what they are doing is unnatural.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:43 PM
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15. Pat should just let the Pope say this for him. Then this thread
would be locked and the debate would be over.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:48 PM
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16. While I disagree w/ him 100% on that statement, I don't believe he is 100x
worse than Bush Co. and the NeoCons. Pat Buchanan actually on occasion has some good things to say (he's more Libertarian than a Republican) and there is hardly anyone that could be considered worse than Bush and the PNAC folks, so saying that Buchanan is 100x worse is an exaggeration. But a statement like that showes his homophobia and lack of understanding of a persons sexual orientation. I'm sure when he was growing up, people in his household talked that way and he's never known different. It's the same way for going back 50+ years ago when people regularly grew up hearing that Blacks were inferior and less capable due to their skin color. It's all hatred and ignorance taught from hate and ignorance. Hopefully someday, people will stop teaching this ignorance and hate and break the cycle.


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atre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 01:50 PM
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40. Buchanan is NOT a libertarian
If you plot him on the scale, he is a conservative authoritarian (which is the polar opposite of a libertarian): he believes in strong governmental control of private morality, and strong personal freedom when it comes to economic issues.

The only things that differentiate him from neoconservatives are (1) his economic populism and (2) his isolationist foreign policy.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:52 PM
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17. HEY PAT! Jeff Gannon nee Gukert is sitting under your nose...why don't
you get off your "pundit butt" and talk about REAL Repug Values! Then maybe some of us would think you have credibility! But, you swinging all over the place being anti-Iraq, anti-Israel...but PRO BUSH, PRO Conservative Repugs like Gingrinch ...leaves some of us thinking you are getting your funding from the same place the WHORE OF THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS CORPS got his...FESS UP, PAT...You're on the dole...from somewhere...:puke:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:54 PM
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18. I think it was Molly Ivins who first decapitated Buchanan --
-- after his extreme far-right & decidedly anti-gay speech at the Republican convention in (1996?).

She said something like, "Well, don't be too hard on Pat. I'm sure the speech sounded better in the original German."
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 10:46 PM
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33. I've always loved Molly Ivins
and that comment just takes the cake. :D
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:54 PM
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19. GOPBasher - "Pat Buchanan is Immoral, Unnatural and Wrong."
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:55 PM
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20.  "Homosexuality Is Immoral, Unnatural, And Wrong""
and so is he.

Jenn
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:08 PM
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21. Oh Thank God. I was frightened when I found myself agreeing with
him. I thought something was out of whack. You are a breath of fresh air that I needed. He is a NutCase.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:18 PM
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23. Culture of DEATH?
What in the world does that mean? Who are gays KILLING? Is this more PROCREATION lunacy?
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:28 PM
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26. Methinks thou dost protest too much.
Mr. Buchanan seems to be yet another repuke nutcase who is OBSESSED with gay sex.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:31 PM
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28. He's not worse
He's just a rabid nutjob.

He isn't evil, at least not like Bush.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 10:02 PM
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30. I don't believe anybody's nominating Pat for sainthood here....
...but as long as he's speaking the truth about the neocon fascists, let him talk! He just might wake up some conservatives who won't listen to us "libruls" even though the facts are staring them in the face.
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independentchristian Donating Member (393 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 10:16 PM
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31. And...
...you expected him to say?

He is a paleoconservative, you know?
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 10:40 PM
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32. Gay & Lesbian culture is a culture of life.
We have a vibrant tradition of humor and art despite the hatred that surronds us.
Buchananan supports a culture of death. He defends Nazis. He hates Jews, homosexuals, and women. He would love to see us all burn in Hell. God save us from this nutcase.
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disillusioned1 Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 10:46 PM
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34. "Thou shalt not judge, Pat." Hypocrite. n/t
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 11:06 PM
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35. How the hell is Pat Buchanan relevant to ANYTHING?
Why do people watch him on TV? Why do they give any thought to what he says?

He once worked for a president--Nixon, wasn't it? Like a whole LEGION of others, he has run for president on a small party ticket, and lost. He's written some books.

That's it. That's all. Why does anyone care what this man says or thinks???
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 12:16 PM
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37. Useful Idiot if there ever was one
Edited on Thu Feb-24-05 12:17 PM by iconoclastNYC
he's a homophobe, and all the rest but he helps sow division in the republican party between the paleocons (aka true conservative), and the neocons, and therefore is useful. divide and conquer and all.

his take on foreign policy, i.e. anti-interventionist, i agree with a lot, but most everything he spews is bull.

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fnottr Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 12:34 PM
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38. I don't think any of us here really embrace Buchanan as 'one of us'
But I am very pleased when he goes public with his doubts about Bush. It shows dissention in the Republican ranks, and not just with the older, more moderate conservatives. Buchanan is part of the fundie movement in the republican party, and his statements show even some of the fundies, who have been the most ardent bush supporters, are starting to have some doubts.

It's also a serverly shocking sign of the times when I start thinking Buchanan is making more sense than the republicans in office, and it makes for a good starting point for political converstations. Try it some time, tell someone who knows your political leanings, "I'm seriously disturbed that Pat Buchanan makes more sense than the president"
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 01:06 PM
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39. This is why I always say to keep folks like him at arm's length.
Work with him as an ally on some points. But never ever trust him.


:evilfrown:
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Itchinjim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 01:53 PM
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41. Homosexuals; "Pat Buchanan Is Immoral, Unnatural, And Wrong"
n/t
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