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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 05:16 PM
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I'm starting to believe that they put gannon in the WH BECAUSE he's gay.
Since numerous articles have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Gannon was a Rove Operative through and through, (http://nashuaadvocate.blogspot.com/2005/02/credible-evidence-emerges-that-jeff.html) there are only 2 possiblities regarding Rove's prior knowlege of Gannon's past:

1) Rove et. al. are incapable of doing the most rudimentary background checks on people they entrust to be a WH briefing room plant, Leak CIA docs to, and help go after the Senate Minority Leader.

or

2) They knew his past and put him in there anyway.

Of course it's no great shock that a rove operative is also a slimeball and criminal to begin with, but if Rove knew Gannon's past and still used him it can only mean one thing--I suppose it's possible that Gannon knows something horrifically damaging and blackmailed his way into being a player, but I'm starting to get the feeling that they decided that if Gannon got caught the media (and Dems) would stay away to avoid charges of gay bashing.
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Toby109 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 05:27 PM
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1. Certain parallels could be drawn
with the Gonzales and Rice appointments.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 05:38 PM
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2. Toby, could you unpack that statement for me? n/t
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Toby109 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 05:54 PM
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3. Ok
Dems were attacked for opposing both the Gonzales and Rice nominations on the basis of race. Repubs screamed hypocrisy. That's the same way Gannon/Kurtz, et. al. has tried to portray the so-called "liberal" blogger's investigation of Guckert. "Ooh, they're attacking me because I'm gay"! I say bullshit. They are using race and sexual orientation to muddy the issue and control the debate. Been a Repub strategy since at least 1994.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 06:12 PM
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6. Yep. I was happy the day of the Gonzales hearings
Edited on Tue Feb-22-05 06:50 PM by sfexpat2000
because, as a Latina, I got through to CSpan and objected to the use of his ethnicity to deflect attention from his RECORD. And also called all the slimeball Repugs who made those statements. Their staff didn't quite know how to respond to me.

They put the Hype into hypocrisy.

Thanks,
Beth
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 05:59 PM
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4. Close. Here's my take.
It seems he was involved as an operative on certain dirty tricks. With a background like his, if he got caught, he's automatically be discredited and could be cut loose, a "throwaway."

Isn't it typical for certain types of CIA agents to have rap sheets and criminal records for the very same reason?

Here are some of the more important Gannon threads, IMO (in which this and other info and theories are discussed):

GANNON / ROVE / RATHER connection
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1603949#
Mangate A link between Hannity/Gannon/Rather Memo story
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1588477
Link: http://mediamatters.org/items/200502100001

Gannon -- Connecting the Dots
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3131271

Gannon's real purpose
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1606495

Gannon reportedly knew about "Shock and Awe" four hours before it happened
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1247511

Radio Producer Could Always Count on 'Gannon' for Tips
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1248758
Link: http://199.249.170.220/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000808600

Conason: Gannon: The Early Years
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x107011
Link (Salon Premium) http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2005/02/18/gannon/index_np.html

Jamie Gorlick and the 9/11 'wall of seperation' meme -Gannongate
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1608234


Velvet Texas Mafia/Gannon/Gay Facts And Fantasies
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=103&topic_id=107601&mesg_id=107601&page=

Uproar! News Stories on Gannon
(news story links)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3149197

WP Kurtz: Gannon told FBI never had secret memo - read it in WSJ
(Timeline links, Gannon's stories re Plame memo, etc.)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3146729

Credible Evidence Emerges That Jeff Gannon Coordinated With the G.O.P. to
Bring Down Former Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle (D-SD) in 2004 Election
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1613226
Link: http://nashuaadvocate.blogspot.com/2005/02/credible-evidence-emerges-that-jeff.html

'Gannon' and S. Dakota Editor at Odds Over Daschle Race (E&P)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1257699

Talon News repeatedly plagiarized content from Fox News, others
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1616070
Link: http://rawstory.com/news/2005/index.php?p=112

Someone is looking for this letter turning Gannon down for press cred.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1602416
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 07:43 PM
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9. You could very well be right. My favorite theory is in this thread
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 06:06 PM
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5. I had the same thoughts awhile ago. Could this be a plan to further the
Edited on Tue Feb-22-05 06:08 PM by bunny planet
anti-gay agenda in this administration. If they can paint Gannon as someone who is immoral and who used the * administration and acted on his own, they can attach the one 'bad apple' name to Guckert/Gannon and smear gay people as being craven hedonists with no shame all at the same time. I just don't think the Pillsbury Roveboy is stupid enough to have walked into this big a pile of doo-doo without there being a twist in there somewhere that's going to zetz our side. I hope I'm wrong and this really is the scandal that just keeps on giving, and it snowballs into something that brings down this supremely corrupt bunch. I agree that the Dems should avoid the appearance and practice of anyone misconstrueing us as gay-bashing and focus on the propaganda, security breach, and payola aspects of this scandal, as well as it's connection to Thune, Rathergate, and most importantly Valerie Plame. Could Rove be trying to discredit any further examinations of the above three topics by somehow having G/G story put back in our court somehow?
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 06:23 PM
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7. No way. The security breech and dubious background as
No way. The security breech and dubious background as PROFESSIONAL PROSTITUTE being given such access and deference is explosive.The guy was at Christmas parties.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 06:49 PM
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8. It could work for Rove in multiple ways.
My opinion is that Gannon/whoever was being set up to hang for Plame. But Rove is a chess master and works moves ahead.

So many ways to manipulate, so little time. It's not an "either or" situation. It was set up to be worked as needed. If they get to be on the side of the gay community or on the side of the imMoral Majority, it's all good for them, right?

That's the bucket we've to kick out from under these criminals.

Again, only my opinion but Gannon/whoever is a victim of these people. Do you think for one instant they would hesitate to off him if the thing goes wrong? I've gone from despising him to being REALLY worried about his personal safety.

I better stop now.
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:25 PM
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14. I'm concerend for him, as well. eom
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 09:56 PM
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11. Yeah and what if they turn the tables and somehow let it slip that a dem
got him into those parties. It just seems too obvious to me, there's something off about it. I too, want it to be explosive. That said, if the media won't touch it, like they would have been all over it if it was Clinton's WH, how explosive can it get?
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 08:23 PM
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10. who can blame the guys in the WH for "letting off a little steam"
as Limbaugh might say. They had to have Gannon there, or who knows what kind of mischief they would get up to?
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 10:57 PM
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12. Good Grief, MY EYES.....
Oh the horror of it all.... a prostitute in the WH....working for those Gay Pubs....
who hate Gay Dems....

WTF?
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:24 PM
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13. There are plenty of 'minorities' in the WH right now.
And it's not an accident. Condi, Gonzales, and now this Gannon character. So that no matter what, when we complain, we can be branded as racists, as sexists, as homophobes. As people who hate.

It was set into motion years ago.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:16 PM
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15. The response is "values". We value the Constitution, etc. n/t
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