If Hillary Clinton was to be our presidential nominee in '08,

[Guaranteed]

Poll question: If Hillary Clinton was to be our presidential nominee in '08,

what would be her chances of winning?

Of course, much of this rests on who the Republican nominee is.

But, taking that into account, what would you say her chances would be?

[saltpoint]

1. Voted 30-40, but meant it as a 3-in-10 chance.

I think Edwards beats her in Iowa, Clark, Edwards and Bayh beat her in New Hampshire.

South Carolina follows that, and she won't place in the top five there.

If the order of states' primaries changes, she may have a different percentage chance, but if it's those three states first and in order, she'll be out of it before she's hardly into it.

[LostInAnomie]

2. Too polarizing.

Not because of her politics but because of the perception.

[Quixote1818]

25. Yes, but she is not nearly as polarizing as Bush yet he got re-elected.

Bill Clinton was polarizing but had a 60% approval rating. I suspect Hillary would be in the same range. She would probably win. I give her a 55% chance.

[Placebo]

3. Hillary '08

Anyone who thinks she wouldn't win a substantial portion of, if not all the primaries isn't living in the reality-based community.

[Crunchy Frog]

8. She may very well win the primaries

but anyone who doesn't think she'll be creamed in the general election isn't living in the reality based community.

I really hope the Democrats can finally get over their apparent death wish.

[Placebo]

12. Wait a minute, I thought this is the "Era of the Grassroots"...

for the Democratic Party?

If the democrats want Howard Dean as DNC chair and Hillary Clinton as their Presidential Nominee, why not? Isn't our whole new message that we can and should trust the grassroots activists? I guess that belief goes out the window the second those little people aren't rooting for your candidate of choice. :eyes:

[Crunchy Frog]

18. I'm not aware of the grassroots activists

being all fired up about Hillary. I would be kind of surprised to see it happening, considering how accomodating she's been towards Bush and the neocon agenda. I certainly don't see any evidence of grassroots support on the net at this time, though it's still early.

At any rate, grassroots can get it wrong too.:shrug:

[Placebo]

21. 40% of Democrats want Hillary...

as of right now. She's even beating Kerry and Edwards, and they were our candidates for President and Vice President only a few months ago! :)

[janx]

22. She certainly has my respect and admiration,

so much so that I don't know if I'd want to see her go through that! ;-)

[Crunchy Frog]

23. I think a similar proportion wanted Lieberman

at one point. I think these polls are fairly meaningless this far out. But if the Dems really do want to get creamed again, I guess that's their choice. I'm not really going to worry about it.:)

[LittleClarkie]

36. Sounds like what was being said about Dean

until somebody actually cast a vote.

She's dead in the water.

[jbm]

4. I think you can't discount..

the 'novelty' voters. Hillary would make a wonderful president, and I think she would have a lot of support from people who would support her for all the right reasons. I think she would also have a lot of support from people who would vote for her 'just to liven things up'. Maybe the two groups together would be enough to get her elected.

[DefenseLawyer]

7. Can you give an example of a president

that won because of this "just to liven things up" voting block? I mean it is an interesting idea, but who are these people and when have they voted this way in the past?

[jbm]

17. maybe not a president..

but I live in Missouri and I remember when Mel Carnahan had been killed in the plane crash but it was to late to change the ballot. I had the greatest respect for Gov. Carnahan and I truly believe he would have easily beat Ashcroft had he not been killed, but pure anecdotal evidence leads me to believe that his winning after his death was a combination of anti-Ashcroft voters, sympathy voters, and 'let's vote for the dead guy' voters.

I also remember years ago when I lived in North Carolina a self-proclaimed member of the KKK actually won a state wide election. I don't remember the details (although I think there was an intervention of some sort and he was never allowed to take office) and I don't think all of his votes came from people who were primarily motivated by racism. Again, strictly anecdotal evidence led me to believe a lot of his votes were,"let's see what happens if we elect this guy' votes.

I know none of that constitutes evidence or anything, but I do have this opinion or theory or whatever that sometimes people will use their vote just to stir things up and make life a little more interesting.

[purduejake]

9. I'd never vote for her...

She doesn't support gay marriage or total gay equality, so I will go with my third party. I'm not voting for the lesser of two evils again.

[BR_Parkway]

5. If she runs, they run Condi - siphon off women and the black vote

Condi wins, sorry, but that's how I see it. Hilary is too polarizing to the Right and she's too compromising to the Left.

[MrSlayer]

6. 0% No chance in hell.

I'm certainly not voting for her under any circumstances. I'll go Green.

[janx]

10. Why not? I don't think she'd be the best nominee (the right

wingnuts are salivating already), but I admire her and would vote for her if that weren't so.

[MrSlayer]

19. Because she only cares about political expediency.

I don't like her votes, I don't like the things she says and quite frankly, I just don't like her. She doesn't stand for anything and just blows in the political wind. I'd get behind someone like Boxer in a second but not someone who doesn't seem to know which party they are in half the time. That's how I see it, if you think I'm wrong tell me why. I'm open minded.

[janx]

28. That has not been my impression of her at all. Senators

can't please everyone. Hillary Rodham Clinton is a very strong woman. It's unbelievable what she has endured and fought for. When I think about the chaos that woman went through when her husband's dalliance messed up the party, I have to admire her ability to sort through what was really important and what was not.

[Igotsunshine]

11. GOP will likely run Condi . . . Hillary is our best hope.

I know it's just silly, crazy speculation but I see 2008 shaping up to be a historic election between two female candidates. I'm wildly guessing but I believe Condi will most likely become VP when Cheney steps down for "health" reasons sometime in 2006 or 2007. The GOP will fall in love with Condi if they figure she can pull support from our base, particularly single females and the African-American community. Very simply, only Hillary can offset and overcome Condi's natural appeal. I'm not so blindly partisan that I can't see that some traditional democratic voters might find her to be an attractive candidate. We underestimate her at our peril. And if Condi is in fact their candidate, then we absolutely, positively must have Hillary as our nominee. Then again, it's only an opinion.

[marcologico]

13. It's conceivable, but not if we're still bogged down in Iraq/Iran/Syria

which seems likely.

p.s. she'd probably make a good president but I also don't see any red states falling into line.

[Zynx]

14. 25% chance.

That's because I'm charitable right now.

[JHBowden]

15. I'd give her a 40-50% chance.

She'd have an uphill battle, though. The Republicans would do a great job fundraising with her on the ticket, but Hilary seems to have the ruthlessness needed for beating the odds.

[Osamasux]

16. 45 - 55%, but it wasn't a choice.

The country will be split down the middle for years, especially after eight years of Chimp.

[AntiCoup2K4]

20. 20 -25 % chance of getting elected, 0% chance of getting my vote

:puke:

[knight_of_the_star]

24. Snowball's chance in hell

At best

[DFLforever]

26. She's too center-right to pick up grassroots support

Though I can see her pulling in a bit more support in the primaries from the general Dem voters.

While I think she'd be as good a president as any of the men now being considered, I think she'd lose badly in the general election.

[2diagnosis]

33. probably right

her recent stances on abortion, and the occupation could damage her badly with grassroots fund raising. What is her strategy? Pick up votes from the right? :shrug:

[IronLionZion]

27. Hillary manages to piss off liberals and conservatives at the same time

She's a moderate establishment Democrat. http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Hillary_Clinton.htm

But she appears to be moving rightward for the 2008 election. That's not a good sign at all. Seems like flip flopping all over again. And when she doesn't win, she's gonna flip out and hurt people.

I hate to admit it, but there are several moderate Republicans I would rather support in the primaries than Hillary. At least we have some excellent liberal Democrats that might run too. Since she will probably win the Democratic nomination, it's important that we don't let the Republicans run a neocon or RW extremist against her.

Boxer 2008!...even if just to cancel out Hillary, it would be awesome to see a courageous liberal Jewish woman run for president.

[janx]

29. I sincerely doubt that she's going to run for president--

even though the wingnuts would love it.

[IronLionZion]

31. i think you are the only person who believes that

But she wants it. You can tell.

[wesrose]

30. No chance.

No way.

[pauliedee]

32. Kerry much stronger candidate

Kerry has unfinished business to take care of. He is a much stronger candidate than Hillary. He only lost because of the "Don't switch horses in wartime" theme. Given a second chance, Kerry can win. Iknow of MANY republican voters who respected Kerry. Against a non incumbent wartime president they'll vote for him. He can win red states. They will never vote fro a woman, especially the wife if Bill Clinton.

[Lena inRI]

34. Are you an advertising agent. . .

hired by the Dems to whittle down the choices for a dream ticket in 2008?

I mean, your recent postings are polls for feasible Dem candidates. . .seems they hired you to do their preliminary investigating for 2006-08 PR work.

If you want my honest opinion, the dead-on ticket would be Clark/Boxer or Clark/Gregoire 2008!

Hilliary would be Billary. . .fawgettaboutit.

Dems need a real turn toward progressive ideals. . .enough of all the corporatism. . expose (like the muckrakers of TR's time) the presidential impotent relationship with domineering business.

:kick:

[Guaranteed]

35. No, but if I could get paid for posting these polls, I sure

as hell would.

[Padraig18]

37. Her loss would be on the McGovern scale.

She might win DC and Massachussetts, but I wouldn't bet on Massachussetts.

[0007]

38. I don't why Hillary has made a right turn but she sure as to hell has!

She has as much chance as being nominated as Condoleezza Rice has a chance to President.