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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 04:59 PM
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Mangate and homophobia
Let's put this in a different light: If it was a FEMALE prostitute, how would we feel about it? How would we discuss it? Would it be more or less amusing and scandalous? Would it be greater hypocracy on the part of the Bush administration to allow this person special access to the White House? How would it be different?
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 05:01 PM
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1. You have put it well
special access is for special people.
Now lets find out what makes Jeff special, and for whom.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 05:03 PM
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2. We'd probably be using bad terms for her.
The problem is not that I, for one, am homophobic, which I'm not, but that the homophobic administration is again proving their hypocracy. Being a male payforsex person is just one more layer or irony. If the mole were female, she'd probably be called prejorative female names.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 05:10 PM
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3. Ask Heidi Fleiss!
I'm sure she would have something to say about scandals involving female prostitutes.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 05:15 PM
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4. Its not the genitals but the generals...Operation Mockingbird and
military domestic psyops. We're at war, remember, and the DoD/intelligence don't want their gravy train funding disturbed. CIAs Operation Mockingbird, media manipulation program has been in effect since the '40s. "CNN and PysOps" counterpunch.com's piece in 2000 by Alexander Cockburn should shed more light.

Domestic propaganda programs....
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 05:21 PM
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5. Oh, please
This isn't about homophobia on the left. It's about hoisting the RIGHT on its own homophobic petard.

Nice try at deflecting, though.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 05:30 PM
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7. I'm not accusing the left of homophobia,
It just occurred to me that if it was a woman, we'd be treating this differently... I strongly suspect that we'd be considerably more vicious, and the press would have been ALL OVER this by now.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 05:31 PM
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8. i think it would be easier for people to hear, than gannon story n/t
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 05:26 PM
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6. being female i would see woman as slut
Edited on Sun Feb-20-05 05:26 PM by seabeyond
having created her world to live and that includes of suffering repercussion if behavior was found, and disgusted with those that preached to me about family values, as i lived it and they did not, yet called me immoral never the less

i would want to investigate if their was woman slavery or selling of young females for male pleasure and then want their ass out of white house and in jail........

i dont think i would be inconsistant be it a woman prostitute or male faking journalism creditials in the theft of free press

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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 05:34 PM
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9. The story would not have changed. It is about Neocons/gop/rovbots using
freeper moral values to get power - all the while knowing full well the freepers are just to be used as chumps. So a former prostitute who was a propaganda whore would be a story too.

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