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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 03:59 AM
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North Korea's Nukes?-- They're CLINTON'S FAULT!
I should have realized that this whole Korean nuke mess was Clinton's fault, since really pretty much everything is Clinton's fault, you know (except if it is something that happened to turn our well.) At least that is the spin generally given in FrontPage.com.

FrontPage certainly does not disappoint, in this searching analysis of where America went wrong with North Korea.


On North Korea: Don't Blame Bush
By Ben Johnson and Lt. Col. Gordon Cucullu
FrontPageMagazine.com | February 11, 2005


Yesterday, North Korea admitted what the world has long known: that it possesses nuclear weapons and announced it was withdrawing from the six-party talks (again). The Democratic Party, curiously following Kim Jong-il's lead, pinned the blame on President George W. Bush's foreign policy -- and called for reviving the failed Clinton-era policies that made yesterday's announcement inevitable.

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It was not George W. Bush's foreign policy -- which has liberated one nation from the tyranny of a madman craving WMDs -- that allowed North Korea to build nuclear weapons. The DPRK may have already possessed more than one such missile by the time he got into office in 2001. It was Bill Clinton's nonfeasance that bought Pyongyang almost ten years to pursue nuclear weapons development. Shortly after North Korea first announced its nuclear program, former president Jimmy Carter rushed to the workers paradise to conduct personal, unauthorized peace talks.

As Bill Clinton attempted to play it tough in public, Carter promised North Korea's leaders that no military response would be forthcoming, a promise Clinton later felt duty-bound to keep. Thus did Clinton allow the weak-kneed former president to conduct a private foreign policy in his stead. Carter and Clinton drew up a massive transfer of wealth -- a bribe -- in return for North Korea's unverifiable promise to end its nuclear program. As part of the deal, the United States provided North Korea with light-water nuclear reactors, food, and fuel oil (some 10,000 metric tons of which was diverted to the Red Chinese Army).

Viewed from the present, Clinton's actions and rhetoric seem tragi-comic. Upon completing the "Agreed Framework" in 1994, Clinton stated, "This agreement will help achieve a vital and long-standing American objective: an end to the threat of nuclear proliferation on the Korean peninsula." Bill Gertz described the terms of the Agreed Framework well: "The agreement gave the North Koreans ten years to dismantle their weapons program and five years to turn over the existing stockpile of plutonium." Instead, ten years later North Korea affirms what most world observers have long suspected: they have produced nuclear weapons. The only mystery is how many they have produced and how long they have had them in reserve.


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http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=17007
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 04:10 AM
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1. Well, It don't matter a whit WHO, if anyone is to "blame"
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.
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for North Korea possessing nuclear weapons at this point.

HOWEVER -

It DOES matter who gets them excited/fearful enough to USE them,

and right now,

That be the US's crack-head BoyKing

Anyone with a few active brain cells must realize that NK will NOT use nukes

UNLESS SOMEONE ATTACKS THEM

and the WH has been saber-rattling for some time now

just like they did before they destroyed Iraq . . .

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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 10:33 AM
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10. Don't buy the BS they're peddling. The facts:
The fear that NK possessed 1-2 nukes predated the Clinton presidency.

Under Clinton, the IAEA was in NK monitoring the plutonium stockpiles.

The IAEA left NK approximately two years ago. The fear at the time was that (without IAEA oversight) NK could produce multiple weapons from the plutonium rods.

NK states that they now have multiple weapons built from the fuel rods.

The revisionism presented in this article is stunning.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 04:12 AM
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2. How long has Clinton been out of the White House?
At what point does the statute of limitations end for blaming Democratic predecessors?

I'm guessing at least 10-12 years. Republicans were still talking about the Carter Administration as late as 1992 and they were still trashing the Great Society programs in the 1980's. I guess the buck stops many years ago with these people.

Bush is president. It's his government.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 04:37 AM
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3. How many times have they said this?
I don't even know why anybody is paying attention to this. Things aren't going well in Iraq so Bush wants everybody's attention on something else. Must be pretty bad if he has to scare up NK nukes again.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 05:06 AM
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4. Typical frontpage vomit filled with lies, inconsisentcies and half-truths
Actually, as anyone who paid attention can tell you, all of North Koreas nuclear facilities were being monitored and had cameras in place monitoring everything that went on.

It was after Georgie Porgie Coke and Lies took over and reneged on various agreements that North Korea shut off the cameras and stopped the monitoring.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:07 AM
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5. Step #6 Blame Clinton
:eyes:

Responsibility and Accountability -- warm-fuzzies coming out of the mouths of repugs -- yet their actions show differently

here's how they handle any "crap" that hits their fan:

1. Deny knowledge of "crap"
2. Reframe the issue
3. Discredit the critic
4. Blame another department/agency and use the "they did it too" excuse
5. Fire some low-level peons
6. Blame Clinton
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 07:23 AM
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6. I heard some RW cow orker blaming Clenis for this two years ago
bog-standard stuff.

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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 07:27 AM
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7. there's a good summary on Mahablog
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 07:32 AM
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8. Little-known fact: Clinton has a doctorate nuclear physics
Yup, back in the 80s in Arkansas, when he wasn't fucking some dumb secretary or shooting people in the head on remote railroad tracks for pissing him off, he was taking night classes at the local junior college and got hisself a shore-fire DOCTORATE degree (just like Condi Rice!).

Then, when he wasn't tanking the economy and killing a few more people for pissing him off and getting blown by a whole platoon of interns, he was secretly going over to North Korea and helping them develop their nuclear program (yes, sadly he did this while President :( ).

Another fact: if you ever see him at a gay bath house, he has a huge tattoo of Kim Jong II on his chest (burning an American flag!!!).

No shit.




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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 07:38 AM
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9. The skyrocketing cost of medical care is Clinton's fault too
If he'd fixed the problem, it wouldn't exist today.
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