the mind of a pro-Bush republican

[E_Smith]

in defense of Bush, they wrote the following. I don't even know where to begin on this. actually I already responded but wanted to throw this out as an example of the "mind of the bush supporter" and to solicit some counterarguments:

"The worldwide hatred for Bush is overstated -- the result of vocal minorities and sensationalism in the media. At other times the exaggeration comes from media outlets that are controlled by governments that quite rightfully feel threatened by the spread of freedom. But no matter, even if all these people don't like Bush and don't like Americans, I say so what? The world sees that when terrorists strike New York City and the Pentagon, The U.S. (in the minds of many) over reacts... takes out the governments in Afghanistan and Iraq. I'm sure that now many of the states that sponsor terrorism (and terrorism, to be effective, does require states sponsors) are having second thoughts about sponsoring/supporting schemes to strike at the U.S. This is good. To be effective, the "big stick" has to be used once in a while."

and then earlier in reference to an anti-Bush rant on Pravda:

"this is not surprising coming from Pravda. On the other hand, ask this guy about what is happening in Ukraine. From 1917 to the end of WW II about 26 million citizens of Ukraine were murdered by Stalin or killed in Stalin's wars. Since the fall of the Soviet Union Ukraine is taking off as the people learn how to operate in a free society. Ask these people what they think about freedom compared to the many years of cultural history as part of the Russian Empire and then the Soviet Union. One of the best things the U.S. has done recently is to convince Putin to be hands off in the elections in Ukraine. Earlier administrations might have been fearful of offending Mr. Putin and the Russians. I don't think we should be ashamed of being strong advocates for freedom and human rights around the world. We are finally willing to throw our weight around in support of freedom and not just talk the talk like Woodrow Wilson, JFK, Carter, Bush 41 and Clinton. We are beginning to walk the walk and this doesn't mean one invasion after another. It means being willing to advocate for freedom from a position of strength and not being afraid to speak the truth to those in power around the world who are abusing their populations in the name of maintaining cultural traditions."

[Warpy]

1. Uh, an average of 80% of the population outside the USA

despise Bush and all he stands for. I wonder how this is "overstated."

Stalin has been dead for half a century. Why dig him up to try to deflect valid criticism from a publication in a newly democratic, capitalist country that has rejected everything Stalin stood for? Isn't that rather missing the point? Isn't it like dittoing about Clinton whenever Bush does something outrageously stupid?

Why don't these people let go of their fantasy? Is it going to take a depression and world war to get through to them?

[E_Smith]

8. I noticed that he

left Reagan off the list of Presidents that don't "walk the walk". Apparently Bush 43 is now carrying on the Reagan tradition. Does anyone see much of a difference between these two presidents, policy wise?

[garybeck]

2. no it's not overstated

that article is bogus

the media is not trying to overblow Bush hatred. The media is sucking up to him.

they are covering up the truth about Abu Gahrib, the stolen election, and they are UNDER playing the world hatred, not overplaying it.

[Downtown Hound]

3. I can tell him what many of the Ukrainians feel about their new "freedom"

They actually miss the old Soviet Union. No, they didn't like the oppression one bit, but guess what, at least they were fed. That isn't the case much of the time now. There are many kinds of freedom, the kind where you can do and say as you please is only one of them. Having the ability to eat on a regular basis is another. I wonder which one they would choose?

[SoCalifer]

4. Nazi Diatribe

Am I the only one who gets the feeling from that guy's statement: Spoken just like a Nazi justifying to himself and others about his support for criminal acts?

[aden_nak]

5. "I say so what?"

"But no matter, even if all these people don't like Bush and don't like Americans, I say so what?"

No worries. And when they get so fed up with Bush (and by extension, America) and realize that there are a lot of things they don't need us (and our stupid "Dollar" for) I'm sure you'll also say "so what", right?

[roguevalley]

6. they have to say this. what else can they say. the world is

rightfully in hatred of him and if we're all still around in 20 years so will they. what will turn them is the pocketbook issues. when the bills come do, they will get it. only then.

Oh, and sign their kids up for the military. otherwise they can keep self deluding but some place else.

[BrklynLiberal]

7. Good point...First question should be..Have you or your kids joined

up yet to fight for your hero in Iraq?