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MAlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:31 PM
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Social Security
What are the politcal implications of the battle over Social Security "reform" (read: destruction) and its implementation?

For example, will it make more people invest, and make them think like investors and therefore help the Republicans gain votes? Or will it make people want to protect the market more and insist on good oversight of the market and thus help dems?

How will it affect the 2006 Congressional race?

Basically, if you were an advisor to Bush, what would you tell him were the political reasons for doing it or not doing it. Thanks.
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classof56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:34 PM
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1. It would depend on if the advisor wants to keep his job.
You know Bushie has made up his mind. No dissenting opinions or reasonable discourse allowed!

God help us all!
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MAlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:35 PM
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2. not what im asking...
of course he has, and it will be his downfall, imo, but i want to get a good look at all the political implications of the push for the reform that wont happen
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classof56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:15 PM
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8. I realize that my answer didn't really touch on what you were asking.
However, I am so tired and cynical at this point, I have to conclude that nothing anyone says--no reality check that's put forward--will change Bush's mind and pondering the implications of his "SS reform" is useless. I am also old--well, sorta--and on Social Security, which I paid into for a whole lotta years and which I am now depending on to help fund my future. Maybe the "proposed reform" won't affect me--I'm praying like crazy that it won't--but it will affect my kids and grandkids and a whole lot of other citizens who have every right to expect a return on their investment from a program that is nowhere near insolvent or in imminent danger of collapsing as Bush would have us believe. As for the political implications--I suspect there will be no negative political fallout from anything Bush proposes now or ever. Remember: Ignorance is strength. War is Peace. Slavery is Freedom. Just a few of the reasons I remain:

A Tired Old Cynic
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:35 PM
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3. It is the 'third rail' of politics and normally I'd tell him stay away
but I can't gag Bush and his neoconmen so I'd tell him to go for it and get thoroughly FRIED on that third rail ! And his little dog too.
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leftyandproud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:45 PM
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6. It is NOT the third rail any more.
Edited on Tue Jan-18-05 09:46 PM by leftyandproud
This is plainly obvious...Every GOP Senator/Congresscritter that supported private accounts was re-elected. Bush ran on private investment accounts his first term and ALMOST won the election...This time he ran AGAIN saying this would be one of his main goals, and he received 3 Million++ more votes than Kerry.

It is no longer the third rail of politics.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:35 PM
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4. A fabricated crisis meant to further a political agenda....n/t
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:38 PM
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5. Goverment doing less is the GOP goal - if sick/poor old , just die
leaves more for the well cared for rich.
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:51 PM
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7. Social Security also covers under aged children....
when the parents or the head-of-the household dies. My father died when I was 2 years old, I received SS benefits until 18. It was not much, it helped my Mom out of Welfare, put food on the table, and kept me in school.

How will the orphant children of this nation survive? Not on Welfarel since it's gone too.
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