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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 10:03 PM
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Alberto R. Gonzales-Memos to Bush-Judge For Yourself
Here are some memos from the AG candidate to The War President.

This man indeed deemed The Geneva Conventions "quaint".

God help US all if he is confirmed is my judgement.

http://www.guerrillanews.com/headlines/headline.php?id=556
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 10:12 PM
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1. "That silly S.oS. trying to tell you Geneva Con. Apply!"
Creepy

:scared:
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Somawas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 10:15 PM
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2. In the Senate Gonzales will rue the day he called Geneva quaint.
But I have a certain amount of sympathy for him. I'm a lawyer. And all of us, at one time or another, have taken some quite extreme positions in the service of a client. The critical question is not what he wrote, but what his personal opinion is. May not be what he wrote.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 10:31 PM
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3. He's also a Dominionist and a Rapture theorist-ideology that is killing
a lot of innocent people. I agree with your statements about taking extreme viewpoints-but Alberto R. Gonzales is a real zealot imo.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 10:51 PM
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4. His personal views?
The only way to know those is through documentation and maybe from others who have spoken with him, although that would be hearsay evidence. I believe that his position regarding torture is documentation that indicates that this is how he will proceed as AG. After all, GW Bush would still be his boss, wouldn't he? Any Dem that approves of this guy is a traitor to liberty and civil rights, in my view.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 10:36 AM
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5. "Worse Than ASHCROFT"


Liberty Beat
by Nat Hentoff
Worse Than Ashcroft
Bush's new attorney general helped write the Patriot Act and supported torture

.... I must credit National Public Radio's Nina Totenberg, an experienced analyst of constitutional law and a reporter who never stops digging to get to the core of Gonzales's ominous record as White House counsel. On November 11, she pointed out: "Gonzales was responsible for developing the administration's policies on the treatment of prisoners; for developing a new definition of torture to allow more aggressive questioning of prisoners. He developed the policy that allowed the indefinite detention of American citizens deemed to be enemy combatants without or access to counsel. . . . The Supreme Court, though, rejected that theory . . .

"Top legal brass in the army, air force, and navy say that Gonzales deliberately left them out of developing policy on the treatment of prisoners because he knew they would oppose."

On November 10, Totenberg quoted retired general Jim Cullen of the U.S. Army Court of Criminal Appeals, who says Gonzales directly contradicted established military and international law. He added that Gonzales realized that "the Judge Advocate Generals Corps would never sanction departures from the Geneva Conventions or engaging in practices that the common man would regard as torture." (Emphasis added.)

Says the Senate Judiciary Committee's clueless attack dog in these matters, Charles Schumer, about Gonzales: "I can tell you already he's a better candidate than John Ashcroft." ....

Next week: Alberto Gonzales's role, and record, as legal counsel to the then chief executioner of the United States, Texas Governor W. Bush, in deciding on the petitions for clemency from 57 of the 150 men and two women executed during Bush's six years as governor. Gonzales was central to amassing that record—unrivaled by any other governor.

Those who know Gonzales, however, keep saying he's a nice guy.

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0448/hentoff.php
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 04:05 PM
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10. LOL
"Those who know Gonzales, however, keep saying he's a nice guy."

They don't want to be next on his list for indefinite detention &
"Treatment"

The fact that this person is even being considered for AG of the USA
says it all. America is headed in one direction under bush** straight down the shitter.
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x_y_no Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 10:38 AM
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6. The more I see of this guy ...
the worse he looks.

If anything, he's worse than Ashcroft - and that's saying a lot.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 12:26 PM
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7. Aw, come on! He gave us the Kerik funfest! (his vetting)
Edited on Fri Dec-24-04 12:28 PM by robbedvoter
That ought to count for something!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 12:51 PM
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8. Know your BFEE: Homeland Czar & Petro-Turd Bernie Kerik
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 01:03 PM
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9. Oh, I am from NYC - know "it". Just thanking Gonzalez for the laughs
(and the subsequent de-sanctification of Rudy)
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