Who do you want in 2008?

[MikeG]

Poll question: Who do you want in 2008?

[cynatnite]

1. Obama n/t

[mtnester]

15. Too Soon...2012

[disenfranchised]

46. 2012?

We may have lost this year, but we haven't lost 2008 as well.

[TroubleMan]

65. It's not too soon....he's just what we need.

nt.

[TroubleMan]

66. Obama / Kucinich ticket

That ticket may sound wierd, but it would win.

[athena]

107. Yes.

To win, the Democratic party will have to stop moving right and get back to its roots. The new leaders should be populists who can once again expand and mobilize the base. I suspect that the 40% that didn't vote are not conservative but also are not motivated enough by the democratic party's rhetoric to go out and vote.

[sadiesworld]

83. Not with Clark as VP

[xultar]

2. Clinton & Clark or Clark & Clinton. I'll fly back from Fance to vote

BUHWAWAWAWAWAWAWA............

[Robeson]

80. Will you take us to France with you?

[morgan2]

3. ralph nader

[GreenPartyVoter]

35. Ralph may be a bit old by then? Dennis K is still ok though.

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[JHBowden]

4. Dean

Though Gore would be cool too.

[YDogg]

5. Jesus

If ya can't beat 'em, beat the hell out of 'em.

[The Chronicler]

6. Somebody who will contribute to our paradigm shift (nm)

[gordianot]

19. and understands the electorate are consumers.

Adjust the message and drop the baggage.

[frogfromthenorth2]

7. JEB / GIULIANI who else.... the nightmare will go on and on....

[messiah]

8. Better to pick a "fighter" with real fucking "left" leaning values

[PopSixSquish]

9. I Originally Wanted Edwards/Clark This Time Around

That would have been a great ticket

[readmylips]

10. Have no choice: Nazism is here to stay....

as the poor become poorer. Yep, they came for us, no one left to defend us.

[snacker]

20. I agree

I don't think they will ever let us win another major election.

[readmylips]

11. Satan...

we need fire from hell to win.

[Kerry in 04]

12. Who gives a shit?

No matter how bad we beat them they will still steal it as they did this time.

[htuttle]

13. Russ Feingold

Look at how much better he did in Wisconsin than Kerry.

Has more to do with having a backbone and integrity than any particular single issue (since he's 'liberal' on all of them).

[LittleClarkie]

69. I could see that, but remember that in Wisconsin

we love a maverick. That support might not go national. Many still see him as the one who voted against the Patriot Act.

But I do love him too. Ran a great, positive campaign here in Wisconsin. Great ads.

[GreenPartyVoter]

14. Kucinich

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[GreenArrow]

21. should have run him this year

if we were going to lose anyway.

[GreenPartyVoter]

38. True enough. Heck. I coulda voted for my own party and it wouldn't

have mattered. I wonder how many states the Greens lost ballot status in since yesterday?

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[G_j]

55. yes, Kucinich

[PissedOffPollyana]

74. Many here may scoff ...

... but Kucinich will be the ideal personification of centrist-progressive ideals in 2008.

Let's contemplate the realities.

We will need a candidate who consistently appeals to a cross-over electorate. Dennis Kucinich consistently is elected and re-elected in a firmly Republican region.

We will need a candidate whose policies reflect a constant dedication to the public good and have no whiff of cynicism. Dennis Kucinich has consistently placed the welfare of his constituents over the safety of his political career, evidenced most vividly by his refusal to sell out public utilities to the private interests that caused the major backouts a few years back.

We will need a candidate whose policies reflect the legacy of FDR. By the time we reach primary season 2008, there will most likely be a situation in America similar to the poverty and suffering of the Great Depression, though the "official figures" wil probably not reflect it. The electorate of the US will be hungry for a leader they can rally behind as a champion of the cause of the common man. Dennis Kucinich is rooted in the principles of good old cross-over populism and would be a candidate Americans of any stripe could get behind.

We will need a candidate who reaches the emotion and hopes of all Americans and inspires them to greater things. Mind you, I campaigned for Dennis Kucinich, being one of the many to draft him to run for President, and still believe he is the leader that can revive the flagging spirit of America. He has lived the American Dream, rising from abject poverty to a podium in a Presidential debate, and is the most passionate, powerful speaker I have ever witnessed. He brought my husband and I to tears with his words. He could do the same for the rest of the nation if we could only get beyond our superficial need for a tall cowboy or some such macho caricature. There are several standards for beauty; the most true among them ranks Dennis Kucinich in league with the Mahatma Gandhi and Nelson Mandela (my other heroes). Neither of these men would win any contests for their physical appeal but are among the most beautiful people to have ever walked the Earth. Perhaps we need to rethink our priorities rather than looking for someone who meets our current shallow criteria?

John Kerry is a very good man. I respect him very much. However, I would work until I drop and fight to the death for Dennis Kucinich. Therein lies the difference.

[eridani]

75. Hear! Hear! n/t

[Bush was AWOL]

98. He wouldn't win a state

[groton]

16. Dodd/Clark

Chris Dodd and Clark as the VP or other way around

[TwilightZone]

25. That has potential. My personal preference would be reversed.

The pundits might be right - we might need a Southern or Midwestern Democrat to make any inroads into the South & Midwest. Clark and Dodd would be nicely balanced geographically.

[democracy eh]

17. it will be someone new, not on the list

if there is an election, and W hasn't declared himself King

[nini]

18. Hillary and Obama

:-)

first woman and African American in one powerful punch!

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

89. Apparently, you weren't paying attention 2 days ago.

Bigotry ruled the day. You really think it's going to change so much in 4 years that a black man and a woman can win?

[nini]

102. well at this point I am allowing myself to dream

I'm not completely prepared to let my dreams go yet...

reality will sink in again I'm sure

[Arkana]

22. Wes Clark.

He was my second choice after Kerry, and I think he'd do well in '08.

[GreenArrow]

23. Obama

at least on that list. There are several I will not vote for -- Edwards, Clinton, to name too.

I don't know that it will matter anyway, as Ahnold will runnning that year.

[Cheswick2.0]

24. Clark just start a consulting firm to take advantage of the fear industry

You all have got to be kidding. He is cashing in on the new national security facism rocks industry.

[Bombtrack]

26. what the fuck are you talking about Cheswick? eom

[Cheswick2.0]

29. Look into his new business venture

than you would know WTF I am talking about.

[Bombtrack]

32. I don't know where to look

if i did i could respond. but I can't because you don't feel like providing anything.

[Cheswick2.0]

50. is your google broken?

maybe if you had asked nicely I would have given you the information.

[Donkeyboy75]

86. If you want to be taken seriously,

you have to provide the information. Acting like a scolded eight year old doesn't do the trick.

Example:

I don't want Dean to run because he started a consulting firm to suppress malpractice claims.

Hey! No proof! You must take me at my word...:eyes:

[FrenchieCat]

34. Wes Clark wants to keep

nations safe. You have a problem with that?

That's why we lost to begin with. Folks like you who didn't want to talk about the war on terror. Got news for you....it's here to stay.

[AntiCoup2K4]

41. The war on terror is BULLSHIT

Get it through your fucking heads. The only difference between the Bush Fraudministration and Al Qaeda are the length of their beards. They are both subsidiaries of the Bush Criminal Empire.

[RivetJoint]

81. Anyone wanna know why we lost?

Read above.

[Bush was AWOL]

100. Exactly right!

It's sad

[Cheswick2.0]

57. no we lost because of folks like you who are gullible enough to

believe that we are less safe than we were before. The war on terror has left us less safe. You were never unsafe and you don't even know it.

You would have made a great citizen in 1930s germany.

[Djinn]

72. the war on terra

is a fucking joke - there has always been terrorism and there always will be - if you really beleive this is about terror then WTF are all the soldiers and resources in Iraq for??

[DIBL]

64. Let the Clark vs. Dean wars begin!!

I seriously thought we had learned a thing or two about being open-minded since the primaries.

[dicknbush]

27. I WANT TO BE AS FAR AWAY FROM THE POLITICS OF THIS FUCKED UP COUNTRY AS PO

I REALLY DON'T GIVE A SHIT WHO IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT OF THIS COUNTRY ANY MORE. NO REAL LEADER WHO IS IN LINE WITH MY HOPES AND BELIEFS WILL EMERGE IN THIS COUNTRY. THIS COUNTRY IS A BUNCH OF GOOF BALL WACKOS RELIGIOUS FEAR MONGERS WHO BELIEVE THE LIES THAT FIT THEIR FEARS. IT IS A SAD DISGUSTING FAT SLOVENLY LAZY COUNTRY THAT CARES ONLY FOR ITS OWN SELF INTEREST.

[Cheswick2.0]

28. Gore/Dean

that is what I want. What I will get is probably a lot different.

[ozone_man]

49. Or Dean/Gore.

I would take either one. I liked the Gore of 2004 that I heard, but not the Gore of 2000. I think Dean taught him how to express himself. ;-)

[Bush was AWOL]

30. None of the above

Rendell, Warner, Richardson or Bayh. Going with candidates who can't win in the south is not the way to go.

[indyjones1938]

31. 2008 begins today

Ed Rendell/John Edwards

Mary Landrieu/John Edwards

[Joe the Revelator]

33. Mark Warner

We need new faces and not keep going back to the same dried up well.

[Meshuga]

52. I agree.

Mark Warner would be a great choice. I'd like to see someone new in the presidential race. Although I would love to see Biden run for president.

[displacedyankeedem]

99. Seconded, Warner/Napolitano '08

[WI_DEM]

36. Oh, God here we go again

Let's concentrate on 2006.

[Flammable Materials]

37. Kerry has officially declared the Democratic Party irrelevant. n/t

For that, I can never forgive him.

[Tweed]

39. Dick Durbin

The best of the crop.

[redherring]

40. Wesley Clark

He's a Southerner. I think we need a Southerner to win an election for us..someone like Bill Clinton.

[robsul82]

42. We should've run Dean.

And I friggin' knew it.

Later.

RJS

[nycmjkfan]

43. Good or bad..

If we're going to win we have to go more towards the center. 4 candidates that can help achieve that IMO....


Evan Bayh
Mark Warner
Wesley Clark
Bill Richardson


I think any Pres/VP ticket from this bunch, will help secure some of those states and demographics that were lost in '04.

[AntiCoup2K4]

105. More towards the center????

If two pro-war, pro corporate, anti-gay marriage candidates weren't fucking "centrist" enough for you, then who the Hell would you suggest, Jeb fucking Bush???

Why don't you fucking DLC pieces of shit go crawl back under the neocon slime covered rock you came from, so this party can go back to being DEMOCRATS again :grr:

[cjbuchanan]

44. It's great to see the Dean/Clark battle back at DU

I've missed it over the last 4 months.

;)

[VOX]

45. The loudest, most truthful, most dogged, most eloquent LIBERAL available

Let him or her go down in flames, if that is what must happen.

At least a voice will be heard in the wilderness.

[DrFunkenstein]

47. Jon Stewart

Admit it - you want him to run.

[ozone_man]

51. He should get a nobel prize

for the work that he has done. He is a phenomenon.

[flygal]

48. I think Clark will polish himself off and be ready!!

[ArtVandaley]

53. None of the above

Gore, Edwards and Hillary are cut from the cloth that lost the last 2 elections. Feingold/Richardson, no contest

[Meshuga]

54. Biden!

He would be a great candidate!

[Crunchy Frog]

60. He disqualified himself years ago,

with a plagiarism scandal. He will never again run for president.

[Robeson]

88. Yep, that will always hang over his head.

[Anarcho-Socialist]

56. Possibly Clark, but I might back Clinton just to piss off the Freepers.

:) It's their worst nightmare.

[Girlieman]

58. Anybody electable

I think Kerry was the real deal. His graceful exit this time suggests to me that he is already thinking about '08.

[truthseeker1]

104. Please. You must be kidding

We just held our noses with Kerry!

[LifeDuringWartime]

59. jon stewart

though very unlikely

[Placebo]

61. You People Will Learn SOON ENOUGH.

Hillary '08

[Bush was AWOL]

101. No F'ing way

She will get her ass kicked.

[bo44]

62. If being nice gets you punked and beat down I want a brutal warrior

What do we have to lose by playing nice? Were going to be taking it in the ass, or whatever orifice that one be unwilling to share intimately with even a lover, for the next four years so lets snatch up a gop punk and take him or down. Let's not act like a fucking empty suit whoring for a spot at the table. I will be happy eating with the dogs if it was a consequence for telling the unvarnished non corporate whore truth.

[WilmywoodNCparalegal]

63. John Kerry

Yes, I said it. I want John Kerry. In defeat, by conceding gracefully, he showed he is a thousand times the man * is and fcould ever hope to be.

[LittleClarkie]

71. I'm there with you, friend

Kerry in 2008.

He's still the best man for the job, and by then we will REALLY need him. I'm going to rename my website the "Kerry was RIGHT" website, and try to keep track as everything he said during the campaign, esp. the debates, slowly comes true.

I'll be there in '08.

[Skwmom]

67. 52 votes for Dean and Edwards is a perfect example of why

the Dems are becoming the shrinking party. Fair or not Dean is viewed as a wacko by millions of Americans and Edwards is nothing more than a smarmy phony.

[LittleClarkie]

73. Dean got pre-smeared, and it would happen again

The Repubs were actually salvating at the thought. You could tell the way they were talking up his candidacy that they hoped he would be the one.

I disagree about Edwards. His only crime was inexperience. His vp debate showed that to me.

[LittleClarkie]

68. Kerry, dagnabit

He's not dead yet.

[bigfry321]

70. ME!!!

I'll run in 2024!

[JVS]

76. OH NO! WE'VE REVERTED TO THE CLARK VS DEAN ERA

AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH

[jdonaldball]

77. Nelson Mandela

[TheWebHead]

78. Evan Bayh

perhaps Vilsack... Both need to develop more name recognition though... going on TV much more often the next few years.

[Robeson]

79. OK, you're hearing it here first....

...As President, the previously mentioned Gov. Warner from Virginia. For Vice President, Gov. Phil Bredesen from Tennessee. Bredesen is actually a progressive Democrat, who has support from both Dems and Repugs in Tennessee. And it also respresents a Southern ticket, as was Clinton\Gore. This could seriously mess up the Repugs southern strategy, just as Clinton\Gore did.

[rullery]

82. Clark, because he is more electable.

If there is any one thing we must learn from this election, it is that the red states will not accept a candidate whom they perceive as being too liberal. And we must win over some of these red states and turn them blue, to win next time. Consider if you will, that the only Democrats who have won the presidency in the past 40 years are LBJ from Texas, Carter from Georgia, and Clinton from Arkansas.

Now I would add that if Obama does well as a senator during the next four years, which I think he will, we could put him on the ticket as Vice President with Clark. Following a Clark presidency, if all goes well, the country might well accept Obama as president.

[truthseeker1]

106. Great choices. Clark/Obama

I agree we have to have a southerner on the ticket. Would love to see Obama top it but - he would have to have one amazing record over the next four years - and that will be tough to do in a GOP controlled Senate.

[LTR]

84. Russ Feingold

Time for fresh blood. Russ is can't miss.

Political maverick
Fiscal conservative
social liberal
voted against Iraq War and Patriot Act
Runs phenomenal campaigns
Great TV ads mixing facts, humor, compassion, and the cold hard truth
Wellstone disciple
FROM THE MIDWEST!!! (Wisconsin)
Jewish
Just won third term
Held his own against a sleazy well-financed opponent and kicked his ass
Conservatives even like him

Hell, why not Russ Feingold? Arguably the best Senator in the US. Feingold will show all how to run a phenomenal campaign against really dirty and aggressive Republicans. This guy is a straight shooter with steel balls. And he's a real class act.

[Amaya]

85. First.... We need to get rid of the

voting machines. We need to have one type of voting system in EVERY state. Paper trails.

Yes, I believe they cheated. Big time.

[Cadfael]

87. Let's just see what the next few years brings us

Why give the Republican smear machine 4 whole years to "research" and invent dirt on whoever our next candidate is going to be?

[faithfulcitizen]

91. very good point friend! :)

[faithfulcitizen]

90. Clark or Bayh

[AP]

92. Judging from DU's track record, this is a poll you want to lose.

DU favorites tend to be the first to lose.

[T Town Jake]

93. Wes Clark for President - Gov. Richardson or Sen-elect Obama as VP. (n/t)

[Warren DeMontague]

94. I want the fightin', feisty Al Gore.

Not the boring, cautious one.

[mdguss]

95. John Kerry:

I still think he'd be a great president. Four years is a long time, and my guess is that many of the things that he said this year we'll be proven right. Other people have lost narrowly and come back to win (Jackson, Nixon, Cleveland).

[NewYorkerfromMass]

96. Non Kerry. He said this would be his 1st and last time ever

he said he simply couldn't do it again. His voice would be shot IMHO amongst other things.

[Demi_Babe]

109. when did Kerry say this?

[Steely_Dan]

97. Mario Cuomo

One of the most articulate and intelligent men to represent the Democratic party.

-P

[Hephaistos]

103. Gary Hart

with Diane Feinstein as VP (she may be too old to run on the top of the ticket, though).

I don't agree with Feinstein on many things, but she is one tough cookie, and she commands respect. Plus, she'll bring back the "security moms" and dramatically increase jewish dem turnout in FL.

Still love Dean, but he'll never win a single swing state.

[The Chronicler]

108. Warner, Dorgan or Boswell (IA)

period.

[curse10]

110. Not fucking Dean, that's for sure

Clark? Maybe. Hillary? Maybe.

[The Chronicler]

111. Hillary is poison. (nm)