Did Zogby Really Say This, or is Traitor Novak Just Full of Shit?

[tritsofme]

**warning pulled from RW source; written by a traitor to America

Pollster John Zogby surprised the political world back in April with a long-range prediction that John Kerry would defeat George W. Bush for president. On Monday this week, Zogby told me, he changed his mind. He now thinks the president is more likely to be re-elected because he has reinforced support from his base, including married white women.

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http://www.townhall.com/columnists/robertnovak/rn20041028.shtml


Zogby has been all over the place this year...crazy Interactive polls that don't match reality, calling the race for Kerry in April, and now backtracking...wtf is going on with this guy?

[DRoseDARs]

1. Can't it be both? eom.

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[tritsofme]

2. lol

good point...

[Cha]

3. novak could be lying again...

And zogby called the race for Kerry much later than April..it was a couple of weeks ago that he called the race for Kerry.

I don't have the link but I remember it very well and other DUers will know that, too.

[tritsofme]

5. He called it in the Spring

I remember it very distinctly because it was so early.

[John Q. Citizen]

12. He called it for Kerry in the Spring (Kerry's race to lose)

And again reaffirmed about a month ago (Kerry's race to lose)

[Cha]

14. Okay...well there ya go...he

"reaffirmed about a month ago"!

And now Kerry's got the polls trending his way..zogby is going to tell novak that bush will win..I don't think so.

[aquart]

4. He's completely wrong about the women.

[TXDemGal]

11. Absolutely! Married white woman here

and I say Bush2 is a piece of shit. I will proudly cast my ballot for John Kerry and John Edwards TOMORROW! (This is Texas...remember, it's like a whole other country.)

[jezebel]

6. Wasn't Zogby on CNBC tonight and didn't he call it for Kerry?

I know there were posts here earlier tonight about it.

[blitzen]

7. yes, i saw that too n/t

[fearnobush]

19. Yes, I saw it too. Novak is FULL OF SHIT!!!!!!!!!!

[priapis]

26. Novak statement true on monday. zogby weds said kerry favored. Novak lie

using old info to keep the "bush inevitability" lie alive.

rove strategy is to get the undecideds who want to vote for the winner to think that bush WILL WIN.

scumbags and slime.

[deadparrot]

8. Zogby's on TDS tomorrow, he might clear it up then.

[AmerDem]

24. Thanks for that info

:toast:

[Tennessee Gal]

9. Need you ask?

Of course traitor Novak is full of shit!!!

[demzilla]

10. Zogby predicts Kerry win, according to this thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1191090

[Cha]

17. Thanks for that link!

That cleared up a LOT!

[unblock]

13. "more likely to be re-elected" THAN HE WAS LAST WEEK

or yesterday or whenever. i'd lay money that zogby was comparing bush now to bush from some previous point in time, NOT bush to kerry.

why? in part because of the word choice. "more likely to be re-elected"? kerry is guaranteed not to be re-elected on tuesday because he's not running for RE-election. (ok, ok, neither is shrub, but you see my point....) if he was comparing bush to kerry, he would have said "more likely to WIN".

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

15. You make a very good distinction n/t

[meg]

16. 10/17/04

Who will Americans vote for?
US pollster ((Zogby) is betting on Tin Man Kerry winning the race against Scarecrow Bush

link

[rocktivity]

18. Polling companies are not non-profit organizations

He was probably threatened with the loss of future GOP business if he didn't fall in line with the "too close to call" meme.

:headbang:
rocknation

[NewYorkerfromMass]

20. Good point. He is the WSJ's official pollster

amongst other GOP clients.

[still_one]

21. anything that novak says is not reliable

[pansypoo53219]

22. well,

he IS the douchebag of liberty.

[progdonkey]

23. popular vote vs. electoral college

The only thing I've seen from Zogby that could be construed as saying Bush will win was regarding the possibility of a mirror image of 2000--Bush wins the popular vote, while Kerry wins the electoral college.

I, frankly, would love to see that happen, just so we can all see the Republicans do a complete 180 and say that the popular vote supercedes the electoral college.

Of course, I would be quite happy with a double Kerry win.... :-)

[JSJ]

25. who signed zog's last paycheck- that'll tell ya'

[Skittles]

27. neither Zogby nor Novak have a f***ing clue what we women really think

same for every man in America

[geek tragedy]

28. They call him "NoFacts" for a reason. eom

[Behind the Aegis]

29. Daily Show

Maybe Jon will ask him on Thursday noght when he is a guest on the "Daily Show."