Democratic Primary Poll (December 17, 2003)

[Skinner]

Poll question: Democratic Primary Poll (December 17, 2003)

If the Democratic Primary were held today, which candidate would you support?

This poll will stay open until approximately 11:30AM, Thursday, December 18.

Poll result (1068 votes)
Wesley Clark	(399 votes, 37%)	Vote
Howard Dean	(372 votes, 35%)	Vote
John Edwards	(21 votes, 2%)	Vote
Dick Gephardt	(6 votes, 1%)	Vote
John Kerry	(74 votes, 7%)	Vote
Dennis Kucinich	(159 votes, 15%)	Vote
Joe Lieberman	(9 votes, 1%)	Vote
Carol Moseley Braun	(3 votes, 0%)	Vote
Al Sharpton	(3 votes, 0%)	Vote
Don't Know, Undecided, Other	(22 votes, 2%)	Vote

[Goldmund]

1. PLEASE

I know there are lurking Lieberman supporters around, because someone always votes for him in polls like this -- but they never leave any posts behind explaining why.

Flaming is the furthest thing from my mind -- but will some of you Lieberman supporters explain why he's your pick among all the Dem candidates.

Thanks muchly in advance.

[Dr.Phool]

36. Joe for VP

I f Dick Cheney has any more heart problems, maybe lieberman can run alongside Bush.

[TrueAmerican]

2. Go General!

Clark will win this one too!

[Name removed]

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[Bucky]

137. Deleted message

I have deleted my own message. Go Clark!!

[corporatewhore]

3. i am sick at home

what about the people at work or school

[Elad]

6. The poll will be open for 24 hours, I don't see the problem? n/t

[bearfan454]

4. Dean will get the nomination.

[VermontDem2004]

7. Hooooowwwwwaaaaaarrrrdddddd Deeeeeaaaaaannnnn!!!!!!!

[annapolis]

99. Precisely catches the movement.

[kayleybeth]

108. Hi annapolis

Welcome to DU

[THUNDER HANDS]

9. Wouldn't it just be easier to make the poll "Dean or Not Dean"

Since he gets half the vote anyway.

[TrueAmerican]

10. This poll is still early.

Clark will come out the winner again, just like all the other polls. Dean doesn't even have 50 percent right now.

[VermontDem2004]

12. Clark doesn't even have 30 percent

And on the previous poll conducted by Skinner Dean came out on top.

[TrueAmerican]

14. Still Early

Clark will win. As long as the poll is conducted fairly.

[VermontDem2004]

15. How can the poll be conducted unfairly?

It is on the top of the page on the two popular forums telling you there is a vote going on at GD, that poll will stay up on the top of the page for 24 hours giving alot of people a chance to respond.

[Dr.Phool]

37. Maybe Diebold is conducting it

If they think they can make Bush win, they can do about anything.

Can we get a paper trail for this poll.

[Dr.Phool]

38. Maybe Diebold is conducting it

Can we get a paper trail for this ballot

[Larry Gude]

81. Oh here...

...we go...

...now polls on DU are suspect...Jeez...

[bearfartinthewoods]

101. you do know the last poll was "clarked,"don't you?

earl g had to reprogram to prevent it from happening again.

[Kahuna]

63. Clark wasn't a candidate then. Right?

[Name removed]

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[_NorCal_D_]

11. Clark

[Cleita]

16. So as of this post, the front runners are:

Wesley Clark
Howard Dean
John Kerry
Dennis Kucinich

It looks like these four candidates will the front runners when the poll closes.

[Goldmund]

17. Hahahahaha

So far, 1 in 5 posts have been deleted in this topic.

Figures...

[VermontDem2004]

18. Post #13 was deleted because it was a double post

[Democrats unite]

19. It does not matter who wins this poll.

But what I think this poll does represent is who will be going all the way to the end of the primaries.

And in my opinion this race may not actually get decided to the very end of the primary process & you should watch what you say right now for you may end up eating your words whateever candidate you are supporting.

[Bucky]

22. Doesn't even show that

It's a gauge of support among DUers who take the poll. DUers are far from being representative of the voting public even in the Democratic primaries & caucuses. After all, where's Gep & Lieberman on these polls? Nowhere. Where are they in real national polls? Bunched up around the second tier with Clark.

[Democrats unite]

26. I will state it again

You should watch waht you say...you may eat those words.

[Bucky]

93. I'll gladly "eat those words", I'm pro-Clark. But I doubt I'll have to

I always choose my words carefully, DemUnite. But frankly, Ari Fleischer has turned me off to the phrase "watch what you say". It smells too much like thought policing.

I'll repeat what I'm saying, too. The DU polls represent one very selective online community, not the broader Democratic Party where Clark, Lieberman, and Gephardt are just about even in current, scientific, opinion polls.

I vote Clark here cause I love my guy. But our polls really don't mean Jack.

[CWebster]

27. What is it a measurement of?

The views of the DU community over time? If it is deliberately skewed by an onslaught of new members joining up to participate in the poll, as the result of announcements made at various blogs, what are they a measure of? Online poll wars?

[Justice]

76. Measure of People's Opinion

Imagine that.

[robbedvoter]

20. Clark - all patriot, no act

He will make an extraordinary American President

[Gloria]

21. Going out after lunch to the new Clark HQ and signing up to

volunteer here in Southern NM!!!

[Renew Deal]

23. You rock

I like NM very much. The drive from Denver to Santa Fe is magnificent. The second you cross the NM border you see much of its natural beauty. I remember stopping about midway and there was nothing and no one to be seen. I have never heard such absolute silence in my life.

BTW, is Clark leading the Roswell vote? I bet he is.

[JasonFromWaltham]

132. Aliens love Clark!

So you are saying he has the "grey" vote all locked up.

[robbedvoter]

25. Go, Gloria! We have a ball, here in NYC! Pizza parties and geek movie

going (in connection with good work, I assure you). The energy is just amazing!

[petrock2004]

77. where do i go?

i suppose i could try and find out myself, but is there a clark station (hehe) in socorro?

i suppose i could always drive 3 hours to cruces... haha... nah

keep up the good work!! yay!!

[Doc_Technical]

24. Polls

One thing that has always bothered me about the political
process is that many people follow the leader and do not
seriously vote with their heart.

They think that to support and vote for a person who loses an
election makes them a loser and they would rather be on the
winning side whoever that may be.

For myself, I'm going with Dennis Kucinich until he either
is defeated or drops out of the race, then I'll put my full
support behind the Democratic Candidate whoever (whomever?)
that may be.

[robbedvoter]

30. I assure you, I put my heart in this vote as well as my mind, my spirit

and my body. I've never been a follower - took my time picking and I find myself elevated by my choice.

[MaryBear]

56. Me, too, Doc_Technical!

Unless Lieberman begins to look like he might win the nomination, I'll vote for Dennis. My second choice is Dean, but I'd be happy with most any frontrunner except Lieberman. I would support him if he won, though.

[Paxdora]

138. Me too!

I always saw the primaries as a way to vote from your heart and conscience. I think it's wrong to be voting tactically at this point. The primaries is the way you show the party leadership who you would TRULY PREFER as the POTUS.

Paxdora

[southpaw]

28. Clark rules...

Go, Wes, go!

[rogerashton]

29. I'm happy it is hard to decide --

emotionally, I really like Dean -- Clark's nomination and election could be historically important, and he is a very bright man who brings a lot to the table -- but I still think Kerrey, a proven liberal, would be the best president, and I do think that should be the basis for our decision as a party -- not whose campaign is slickest, who can raise the best money, important as those things are, but who would be the best president.

Call me an idealist if you will.

[robbedvoter]

31. You are thoughtful, as we all should be. Idealism is good (I am one too)

[JanMichael]

32. Dennis Kucinich. Why? Single Payer HC and Trade/Labor Issues.

AFAIK, or heard, the frontrunners all seem to be enamoured with the WTO, GATT, NAFTA and FTAA. That is highly irresponsible in my very humble opinion. It's an issue that effects us all whether we know it, or simply don't want to recognise it, or don't.

I see that as an abrogation of their responsibilities to the America Worker as well as the people of other less powerful nations.

In regard to HC all I can say is that we're the only advanced nation in the World without a 100% coverage. We are not #1 like so many talking heads may think. Also the half assed, incremental, "Fabian" reforms are doomed to failure...Except of course the Big Pharmacuticals and HMO's will make out like bandits for a few years. Notice that the repukes brought up HC recently and said it's their new big issue? My guess is that it'll be a lot like what we've heard from many Dems. A smoke and mirrors givaway to big business.

Fabulous.

On edit I'd like to state that other than Lieberman, I'm pleased with all of our candidates, for the most part.

[Suspicious]

33. Kucinich is my pick, too,

for the same reasons you have outlined. I am astonished when I speak to people (my own mother, who is one of the most intelligent people I know) who have no clue with regard to GATT, WTO, NAFTA, etc. and the impact they have on our lives.

I consider myself a person of principle, but I live in the real world, at the same time. I love what Kucinich stands for, but I have to wonder just how far he'd make it with some of his proposals if he were to win the presidential election. There are very powerful interests out there who would never allow it. I believe it is possible, however, that he could make a dent, even if only a small one, to be chipped away at in the future.

[Dr.Phool]

39. Impeach Kucinich

If Kucinich wins, can we vote to impeach him like he did to Bill Clinton?



I'm not kidding, check out his voting record. He voted to impeach Clinton. Thats tantamount to his joining in a right-wing coup attempt to me. And the bad thing is I like Dennis personally, I voted for him in every election he ever voted in from City Council, to Mayor, to Congress, and have spoken to him several times over the years when I lived in Cleveland.

I also believe that nominating Kucinich would be the real nominating McGovern again. I supported, and voted for McGovern, but I don't think American can handle that much perfection at once.

[spychoactive]

42. really?

seriously?

[Dr.Phool]

46. Seriously!!

i lost a lot of respect for him when he did that.

He was one of about 4 or 5 Dems to do so.

Do't believe me, check it out.

[ErasureAcer]

55. explain yourself

http://clerk.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.exe?year=1998&rolln...
http://clerk.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.exe?year=1998&rolln...
http://clerk.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.exe?year=1998&rolln...
http://clerk.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.exe?year=1998&rolln...

[JanMichael]

59. Thanks for clearing that up.

Not that it would've changed my vote though. Same with the abortion reevaluation.

[Ksec]

121. He didnt vote to impeach

Nope . Thats not true .

[Dr.Phool]

126. Yes it is

look at the Clerks records for October 8, 1998, rollcall votes # 497, and 498. The motion was "is there enough evidence to impeach the president." Kucinich and the immortal Gary Condit voted along with 29 other Democrats for the resolution.

I used to live and work in Cleveland, and Dennis was my Congressman, and I remember a lot of people being VERY pissed off at his vote.

I tried finding the articles in the Cleveland Plain Dealers archives, but the don't go back that far. But I did find the on the House Clerks records.

I've always said, I personally like Dennis, but I couldn't excuse this!

[plurality]

134. why don't you provide a link to back up those statements?

Instead of saying look at blah, blah, blah, without any reference. You've already made one blatantly false statement that's been proved incorrect, so if I'm going to believe any of what you say now, the onous is on YOU to prove it.

[JanMichael]

45. Hell NAFTA alone should have been just cause to impeach.

Throw in badly written Welfare "Reform" and I'm wondering why I ever voted for...Sheesh. I hate epiphanies.

As to the McGovern mantra I can only say that IF DK won the Dem primaries then all bets are off. Something bizzarre would have already happened and Bush would be toast.

[Dr.Phool]

48. You're right

Theres a few things (quite a few) that I didn't like about Clinton-Gore, but no way do you vote to impeach for the crap they had him for. I don't remember exactly what he said, but Dennis had some lame excuse. I know there were a lot of mad people when I got to work that morning.

Is there anything bizzare enough that could happen for DK to win the nomination? He does serve a good purpose though, by pulling the arguments to the left.

[no name no slogan]

69. I would have voted to impeach Clinton, too, but not for MonicaGate

The bombing of the aspirin factory in Sudan was enough for me.

The fact that there was significant evidence available at the time to indicate it was making pharmaceuticals and not chemical weapons is sufficient enough proof that it was clearly an illegal act under international law. The needless deaths of countless eastern Africans who no longer had access to the drugs the factory produced is something else you could have nailed him on, too, all because he was afraid to admit he was banging an intern.

Clinton was an embarassment to many Democrats, no matter what the rose-colored glasses of hindsight say.

[goobergunch]

52. Wrong - here are the votes on all four articles

http://clerk.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.exe?year=1998&rolln...
http://clerk.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.exe?year=1998&rolln...
http://clerk.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.exe?year=1998&rolln...
http://clerk.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.exe?year=1998&rolln...

[ErasureAcer]

54. He voted "NO" on all 4

thanks for letting the truth be known.

[Paulie]

57. Sorry, Kucinich did NOT vote to Impeach

Dec. 19, 1998, Kucinich voted against all four articles of impeachment.

If you're quoting a Slate article for your facts, they RETRACTED their incorrect article.......

[JanMichael]

60. Nope. He voted for the inquiry, not to Impeach.

"Kucinich said he was one of the few Democrats who voted for the U.S. House to proceed with an inquiry. However, he voted against impeachment. The U.S. Senate ultimately acquitted Clinton in February 1999."

"I thought, as a member of Congress, that there was enough reason to go forward with asking questions," Kucinich said. "But when we did that, not enough information was produced to rise to the level of an impeachable offense.""

http://www.dmregister.com/news/stories/c4789004/2200360...

[Dr.Phool]

127. Whats the difference

It's like handing Tom DeLay (R-Worlds Biggest Asshole )(TX) and Henry Hyde a hatchet and telling them not to use it.

I'm sorry, but I agree with Dennis on a lot of things, and he did a lot of things for me from his office, on union matters, but loyalty is a big thing for me. I saw him at the Florida convention, and told him why I'm supporting Dean. He wasn't happy, but I don't think he lost any sleep over it.

He knows he can't win, but I agree he's doing a good job pulling the whole campaign to the left. Lieberman doesn't get it at all, and might replace Cheney on the Repuke ticket.

[diamondsoul]

129. The difference is-

Voting to investigate a potential crime by the President and voting that said investigation proved to be fruitless. That's the difference.

And I tend to lose respect for people who tell falsehoods about a very honorable man.

[stinkeefresh]

65. that's not surprising to me. I forgive him.

Dennis does what he believes is right, and he is probably quite disturbed by the way powerful people abuse their power for sex. As a Dean supporter (and Clinton supporter too) I forgive him. It was a dumb move, but far more connected to his personal morality than any coup attempt, I bet.

[redqueen]

68. Kucinich. So far, compromise has gotten us nowhere but marginalized.

I'm increasingly convinced this will be my last 'lesser of two evils' vote.

I see the direction our party is going. I'll be dragged kicking and screaming no more.

[Nadienne]

74. Could be worse

If he were too liberal (instead of a little too liberal), he might have as many supporters as Lieberman...

[beyurslf]

34. Who voted for Lieberman? I didn't think he had any support here.

Just curious. Not flaming... n/t

[Scott Lee]

35. Interesting - how does this polling feature keep out sock puppets?

Sock puppets are, for those who might not know, other identities used by a single user in order to manipulate polls.

Admins? I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.

[spychoactive]

44. i learn alot here

"sock puppets"..."freep"...so who would go to all that trouble just to swing a poll??

my biggest suprise thus far is the lack of support for gephart...

one love
spike

ps: i love the DU, you kids are stuck with me!

[Scott Lee]

47. Gephardt and his little ad just toasted himself.

Welcome, by the way.

[Larry Gude]

84. Sock puppet?

...I like "MPD" better.

[GobGoober]

40. Well, I had to go Dean

He's in second place and needed my vote.

Of course, I probably shouldn't have voted in this since I won't be voting in a primary.

[tnlefty]

41. Today I chose Braun because she's the total opposite of W*

And I'm very frustrated with the testerone bearers in my life right now so I WANT THE ESTROGEN CANDIDATE!!!! I feel somewhat better.

[underpants]

43. I felt I needed to vote for someone who could win so it was either...

Kerry or Clark so I said Kerry. But actually I am still undecided and will work for whomever gets the nomination.

[Qutzupalotl]

49. Clark.

He's got it all, IMO.

[Droopy]

50. Man, Kerry has sure lost a lot of support here

He used to be number 2 behind Dean on these polls before Clark entered the race.

[goobergunch]

51. Dean (n/t)

[Padraig18]

53. What just LEAPS out at me from these results is...

... that none of the candidates who are attacking Dean or Clark are faring well at all. A lesson in that, I'm sure of it...

[kentuck]

58. If this poll is any indication.....

It's going to be a tight race between Dean and Clark....

[Kahuna]

61. Wesssssssssssss!

Yessssssssssssss!

[ramblin_dave]

62. Compare with this BartCop poll

This ran for the past several days with the following results:

34% Dean
28% Clark
21% Kucinich
8% Sharpton
0% Gephardt
4% Braun
1% Edwards
0% Lieberman
2% Kerry
1% Oil Chimp

12552 votes

[jmaier]

64. These straw polls

are demonstrating that Dean, Clark and Kucinich have the only remaining activist pool of online supporters. With the exception of the Kucinich results they do tend to confirm the two-man race trend that has been emerging in some Feb 3 primary polls.

[Nadienne]

66. I wonder

How many

(and I don't mean to imply anything; I'm sure there aren't many)

-supporters of Clark are merely anti-Dean, and
-supporters of Dean are merely anti-Clark?

(edited to hopefully make more sense)

[Tom Rinaldo]

67. I'm not anti-Dean

I'm pro-Clark. I doubt there is much lesser evil voting going on at a DU poll, and it doesn't matter if there is. Eventually the field will narrow down to two choices and finally one winner. Sooner or later everyone has to either embrace whoever is the perceived front runner, or whoever is perceived to be most likely to beat the perceived front runnner, and then hopefully almost all of us will campaign for the eventual nominee.

[Nadienne]

71. Sooner or later

we'll all embrace the front runner...

But hopefully not too soon. *s*

[no name no slogan]

72. At BartCop no less...

I'm suprised DK did as well as he did, since BartCop is very Pro-Clark AFAIK (I haven't read him in a while, so I could be wrong).

That, compounded with the Alexa numbers, indicate that DK will be the spoiler in the Dean/Clark race (if indeed it comes to that).

My $.02 ($.0146 after taxes)

[jmaier]

78. Probably not ...

The actual primary races aren't predominately conducted online. That said, I do admire DK's firm stance on many issues.

[Boo Boo]

86. The Bartcop poll could be...

easily Scammed. I voted in it a few times to prove to myself that it was worthless, then ignored it. At the time I voted it was roughly dead even, and then slowly trended towards Dean over a period of a couple days. I've noticed a lot of Deanies like to sit around, dumping their cookies, voting over and over.

Whatever.

[_NorCal_D_]

91. I see, however

it appears that the candidate 'Oil Chimp' skewed that poll.

[lpbk2713]

70. What part of "exercise in futility" does Lieberman not understand?

He gave it a good shot but now it's time to put it to bed.

Ed: For the record, I voted for Gen Clark. But I will vote for the Democratic Party's candidate whoever it may be in order to end our long nation's nightmare.

[kayleybeth]

73. I voted for General Clark.

as always. He's the man to beat Smirk, IMO.

[the_boxer_]

75. Kucinich but...

I'll be happy with Dean or Clark....

[pearl]

82. Being for Dean

I will support Clark if he wins, on the one hand Clark needs Deans
political skills and perhaps Dean needs some of Clarks resume'

A dream ticket for me would be Dean/Clark or Clark/Dean.

I just feel both of these candidates have been introduced and selected
in similar ways by a grassroots movement.

"Leaders don't create movements, movements create and choose Leaders."

Both of these guys are listening to many activists and voters and they
should be regarded as true patriots for their passion and fight.

Number 1 priority, Get the thugs out of there. None of our folks are
thugs and we can be proud of that.

Tonedeaf, misguided, out of touch, egomaniacs maybe, but none of ours
are Thugs.

"Pray for the dead, and fight like hell for the living."
Mother Jones

Peace Baby!

[rucky]

79. Undecided and ulcer-free

Kucinich, Dean, Clark, Kerry - in no particular order

I've gotten alot of good info by reading DU - even the flame wars. It's alot easier to syphon the facts out of the partisan posts without getting caught up in the emotional aspect of it. I know enough to know that it's best to not make a decision until right before I vote. If I were in Iowa instead of Oregon, I might be sweating it a little by now.

[Larkspur]

80. Dean is my "Lord of the Roots" because he shares his power!

Go Dean!

[jmaier]

87. I'll look forward

to your appointment in his administration when he takes office.

[VT70]

83. Joe Lieberman

It's tough for me to decide between Gephardt and Joe right now, but I'm going to go with Joe. He's the best man for the job. Strong on national security and moral values, and progressive on social and economic issues.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

88. Joe looks like Kevin Spacey?!?

[thebigidea]

95. not only that, but he is PURE SEX INCARNATE

[Dr.Phool]

128. You work for Comedy Central, Right?

I listened to "Leperman" about 11 days ago at the Florida convention. If I were wearing a blindfold i could have been hearing George W. Bush or Ralph Reed. Other than giving an incoherent speech attacking Democrats, his biggest policy idea was banning violent video games and movies.

Just go home Joe.

[TrueAmerican]

85. A big welcome to all newly registered DUers!

Will you be staying or only voting for Dean in the polls?

[Piperay]

89. Clark

is my choice!

[_NorCal_D_]

90. Looks like Dean is closing in.

He's only 7 votes behind Clark.

[Bucky]

92. Dean is coming on strong, just 8 votes behind as of 5pm EST.

Congratulations, all yall Dean cultists. There does seem to be a Gore bounce in DU (Clark has won most of these past polls going away). But just you wait till my boy gets back from his European vacation (notice how smart Clark is? He hits Europe in the off season and finds a way to write the whole thing off as a business expense. Go WES, young man!)

Anyhoo, Good on ya, Deanies. I'm tippin' my Stetson to you.

[chocolateeater]

94. Voted for Dean

[Ksec]

96. 649 votes cast so far nt

[webkev]

97. Clark

Clark = Only One Who Can Win IMHO,,

[nuxvomica]

98. For the record, I meant to vote for Gephardt

But I voted for Kerry by accident. Jeezum Crow, this is embarrassing.

[sallyseven]

100. Voted Kerry

Second choice Clark. Third choice anyone who wins the primary.

[Democrats unite]

103. Do you live if Florida?

eom

[nuxvomica]

104. I was actually going to mention that I don't live in Florida

But I thought that would be a kinda lame joke.

[citizen snips]

102. Clark is gaining some ground.

Looks like Clark is gaining some ground here at DU.

[wiley]

105. I'm with Bill. Clinton, that is!

We want Wes!

[Mz Pip]

106. Kick

[Dookus]

107. No need to kick...

the poll is pinned to the top of the page.

[Jerseycoa]

109. Stopdeanstopdeanstopdean

Just kidding.

[goobergunch]

110. 781 votes...impressive! (n/t)

[KaraokeKarlton]

111. Is it just me or do the results seem different in this poll?

I'm wondering if that's because of new registrations being shut off during this one or if it's just because this one's pinned at the top. I guess it could be a combination of both.

[morgan2]

112. someone should do a poll

about which candidate has the closest views to your own. I think it could be interesting.

[NewJerseyDem]

117. I think that has been done

If I remember correctly, Kucinich did extremely well in that poll.

[peabody71]

113. I believe that Kuccinich pulls votes away from Dean.

We shall see on election day. Kuccinich may actually surprise some folks though.

[UTUSN]

114. The Unreality, the UNREALITY (re: ALL the Results) n/t

[mmonk]

115. I voted

where's my sticker?

[Texas_Dem]

116. Wesley Clark

will make an extraordinary American President.

[MontecitoDem]

118. 1991 - Mario Cuomo will be our nominee! Drop out now others...

OK - I go for clark but here's some info for everyone to think about:

Here's a Gallup poll from December, 1991 ... :

Mario Cuomo - 33%
Jerry Brown - 15
Douglas Wilder - 9
Bob Kerrey - 8
Tom Harkin - 7
Bill Clinton - 6
Paul Tsongas - 4
Undecided/Others - 18


So let's all remember that "frontrunners" in December may mean very little.

[VT70]

123. Mario Cuomo NEVER GOT IN THE RACE

So, that poll and your point are both about as meaningless as polls showing Hillary or Al Gore in the lead.

[MontecitoDem]

124. Right. Meaningless?

All I'm saying here is that every candidate is still alive until the actual voting begins. That should be especially good news for Joe fans.
Lighten up.

[1songbird]

119. General Wesley Clark is the man with the plan. n/t

[Field Of Dreams]

120. Clark

n/t

[Crewleader]

122. Thanks for the poll....and it's working fairly!

It's Nice General Wesley Clark Is Taking The Lead...Very Good!

[Kahuna]

No Clarkies are "freeping" accusations." I love it..

I haven't seen any announcements of the polls on the "Clark spots."
hopefully, the accusations against Clarkies will be put to rest. But just in case they aren't, I'm bookmarking this thread.

[LuminousX]

125. Wow, Kerry doesn't have a lot of DU support

and were are lousy with Dean, Clark, and Kucinich people.

[Zynx]

130. Dean. n/t

[deacon]

131. Dean/Clark -- and Joe Lieberman for the Zell Miller Award n/t

[robbedvoter]

136. Nice try, but my man Clark is leading and he's no one security blanket.

This is the gauntlet he threw yesterday:
"I'll put my 34 years of experience in defending the United States against his 3 years of failed policies any day."

[Pocho]

133. BEST STICK TO HITCH HIKING

My preference in order would be Sharpton, Braun, Kucinich, and none of the others. Pervasive racism of the US rules the first two out. Kucinich isn't a populist but his mouth could force him to learn to become one. That's what is being sought by the majority of Americans who don't vote because they've found the hard way they lose no matter the winner. Unfortunately for them, if Kucinich should so upset the apple cart by waking people from their dreams of the myth of democracy, he would be shot, or as seems the latest fashion, go in a small aircraft mishap.

[LWolf]

135. Dennis Kucinich

With pride.

[Democrats unite]

139. 10 minutes to go

Any last minutes voters out there?

[Kahuna]

140. Wes is best!

Just wanted to get that in before the thread is locked.

[Democrats unite]

141. I concur.

eom

[Tom Rinaldo]

142. I wonder if Clark will get credit

Can we put the rest the charge that Clark doesn't really have legitimate support at DU? It isn't smoke and mirrors folks.

[Skinner]

143. POLL RESULTS

Poll result (1068 votes)
Wesley Clark (399 votes, 37%) Vote
Howard Dean (372 votes, 35%) Vote
John Edwards (21 votes, 2%) Vote
Dick Gephardt (6 votes, 1%) Vote
John Kerry (74 votes, 7%) Vote
Dennis Kucinich (159 votes, 15%) Vote
Joe Lieberman (9 votes, 1%) Vote
Carol Moseley Braun (3 votes, 0%) Vote
Al Sharpton (3 votes, 0%) Vote
Don't Know, Undecided, Other (22 votes, 2%) Vote

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