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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:53 PM
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does anyone know about vote swap?
saw a blurb last night or this morning about trading votes in a solid state for a swing state vote???
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:55 PM
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1. How do you know the person you're swapping with
is going to vote for the candidate they SAY they'll support? I wouldn't trust anybody to vote the way I wanted them to. The only way to be sure you're voting for who you want to vote for is to pull the lever/mark the ballot/push the button yourself.
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 12:00 AM
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6. I agree 100%
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 12:05 AM
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9. Yeah, but even if it was a best friend living in another state?
If my best friends--known for 23 years now--said they were going to switch votes with me, I'd trust them.
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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:55 PM
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2. Yeah, it's a bad idea
You sign on the internet and let's say an Illinois voter switches his vote for Kerry with an Ohio voter who is going to vote for Nader. There is no way to make sure the other people lives up to their word. You aren't voting for who you believe in.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:57 PM
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4. well, I live in a (sigh) solid red state
wondered if it would do any good?
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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 12:07 AM
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10. Well if you live in a red state, I suppose it would be worth a shot
My thinking is though if someone is so set on voting for Nader in Ohio, then they clearly don't care enough about electing Kerry. The fact that someone else is going to vote for Nader doesn't seem like it would make them feel 'good' enough.
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Radio-Active Donating Member (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 12:04 AM
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8. could get freeped too..
A secret Bush-supporter in Ohio could convince a Kerry-supporter to trade their vote to a vote for Nader, while the Bush supporter goes ahead and votes for Bush.
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:57 PM
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3. You should steer clear of that stuff
In addition to any possible legal implications, a vote swap essentially means:

Your Kerry vote + A Swing Stater's Nader Vote = 2 Nader Votes

Unless you can walk into the voting booth with the other person, it's not worth it.
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:58 PM
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5. The idea has never really caught on...
probably for the exact reasons that Lindacooks pointed out. It's hard to trust that the person on the other end of the deal will follow through on the agreement. I think it's kind of a neat idea, but I don't think I could ever feel totally confident about it.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:29 AM
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16. Hi NaturalHigh!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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jadedcherub Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 12:02 AM
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7. I know someone who is voting for Nader, and
since I live in North Dakota, and he lives in Minnesota, I found 4 other people who didn't care about their vote, and we offered to exchange our 5 votes and switch them to Nader, if he would switch his one to Kerry.

.jc.
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 12:19 AM
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11. Why, so that some Nader loser can have a clear conscience? No thanks.
Anyone who votes for Nader should do so with the full weight of their actions resting right on their own two shoulders.

How anyone could even CONSIDER doing this is beyond my imagination.

A vote for Nader is a vote for Bush, no matter where it takes place.
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theorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 12:21 AM
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12. We need to give Kerry a mandate.
If he goes into the WH with a solid majority in the popular vote, he will have a true mandate to push all of his campaign promises early. The electoral college may govern our perception of the race, each vote does matter to the candidates who understand this government, i.e. not bush.

If you want Kerry to win, but live in a solid red state (like me, Indiana) please vote Kerry. He doesn't think it's worthless. (Nader voters are likely going to scam you, anyway.)
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 12:58 AM
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13. never "hoyd" of it, but.....
...that dude on ebay who was trying to sell his vote got busted big time!

LOL!! What an idiot he was to try that... :silly:
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:22 AM
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14. Fuck vote swapping.
Why?
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