When they lose - AND THEY WILL LOSE - they will not

[AVID]

LOSE nicely.

Remember the Dade County citizen (repug pack mental retards) revolt which brought the ballot counting to a stop?

That was a tiny fraction of the fight they will put up on Nov 3rd.

It will be amusing, scary, shocking, and beyond comprehension.

[BlueCollar]

1. This time

there will be a few of us on hand and I doubt we'll stand idly by.

[TomClash]

2. I will be in FLA with a few of my firends

and the repugs will have ot make nice or else.:spank:

[Paradise]

3. nicely put, as always. n/t

[SheilaT]

4. It won't really be over

until John Kerry takes the oath of office on January 20, 2005. A lot could happen between November 2, 2004 and that date. First of all, don't ever think you're directly electing a president. You're not even directly electing the electors of your state. It's your state's legislature that certifies the slate of electors some time in December, and that's when the president is really and truly elected.

Remember that back in 2000 the Florida legislature was making it crystal clear that they did not care how a recount came out, nor how a Supreme Court decision came out, they were going to certify the Republican slate of electors and that was that.

All it would take is one or two or three states whose legislatures are Republican to overturn the popular vote results in that state. What I don't know, off the top of my head, is which states are like that. I believe Florida is one of those that could have a Democrat (John Kerry wins) popular vote result, and yet the Republican dominated legislature could certify the Republican electors. I'm not sure of any easy way to do the research about which party controls the legislatures in which states. Maybe someone here would know and post those results for us.

[POAS]

5. Ohio is one of those

that has a completely Republican run state government. Whether the state constitution allows for the legislature to overturn the popular vote I cannot answer, perhaps one of our more informed Ohioans can answer that.

[SheilaT]

6. It has nothing to do

with the state constitution allowing the legislature to overturn the popular vote. It has to do with the federal constitution stating that the legislatures certify the slate of electors. Keep in mind, that the men who wrote the constitution did not really trust the public. They weren't all that keen on truly democratic processes, which is why they limited the franchise as much as they did. Senators were also not directly elected until some time in the 20th century.

Most people really do not understand how indirectly the president is actually elected, even after what happened four years ago. That's why the statement that Gore really lost goes unchallenged so often. He didn't lose. Not only that, he won over half a million more votes than Bush, but all that's forgotten in what happened after election day itself.