2 Unexploded Bombs Found In OKC Bombing - Video Proof

[politrix]

http://www.indybay.org/news/2006/04/1817341.php

You'll see news reports from multiple major news channels showing the hazmat teams retrieving multiple unexploded bombs from the building. The whole thing was supposed to fall but, some charges didn't explode.

This is absolute proof that it was an entire conspiracy and not just a lone kook. But, then you have to realize that you'd need federal help to wire a federal building with explosives.

The fact that all those early news clips were immediately pulled and tossed down the memory-hole to be forgotten as a complete lie about a truck and fertilizer was forced down our throats.

If this is spread wide enough, it'll help lift the fog that people are under regarding 911. People just can't accept that our government would do this to us.

Well, this is proof that they DID and that we CAN'T EVER accept the official party line.

Please send this link to everyone you know. This isn't conspiracy theory, it's conspiracy FACT. You'll see it with your own eyes.

You'll also get to see just how dirty the media is and just pathetic reporters are. None of these reporters have come forward to my knowledge. My God, how do they silence people so effectively?

[rman]

1. I remember seeing similar reports

It's interesting how the coverup usually lags behind the initial reporting.

[Ezlivin]

2. Explosive expert General Partin reputed the official story

http://independence.net/okc/congressbombreport.htm

An excerpt:

On April 19, 1995, the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma was bombed, causing extensive damage to the structure, the loss of 168 innocent lives, the victimization of the families of those who lost loved ones, hundreds of non-fatal injuries, and substantial property damage in the vicinity. The media and the Executive branch reported that the sole source of the devastation was a single truck bomb consisting of 4,800 pounds of ammonium nitrate, transported to the location in a Ryder Truck and parked in front of the building. It is impossible that the destruction to the building could have resulted from such a bomb alone. To cause the damage pattern that occurred to the Murrah building, there would have to have been demolition charges at several supporting column bases, at locations not accessible from the street, to supplement the truck bomb damage. Indeed, a careful examination of photographs showing the collapsed column bases reveals a failure mode produced by demolition charges and not by a blast from the truck bomb.

[graphixtech2]

3. Video clips from OKBIC's Ten Years Later, Speakers Forum event

Thanks for the important news media video link.

A recent page of seven video clips from the Ten Years Later, Speakers
Forum in OKC, (including a video of Brigadier General Partin).

Viewers are encouraged to watch videos in entirety as some
contain critical commentary towards the end.

http://digitalstyledesigns.com/pages/moviesokc.htm

[QuettaKid]

4. I always wonder why

more is not made of those photos of the yellow Ryder truck at Camp Gruber.

[reprehensor]

5. Thanks.

I was looking for this... saw it posted over at 911blogger, forgot to bookmark.

[Old and In the Way]

6. So how did these get explained away in the official government report?

I find it hard to believe the Iraqi Guard could have had access to plant those devices in a Federal Building, but I could believe that the intent was to set them up....an early "Pearl Harbor" event that went wrong? Why didn't Timothy McVeigh spill the beans...I can't see why he'd go to the grave allowing people to think he was the only one responsible for this atrocity.

[politrix]

7. That's Why You Gotta Send This To Everyone You Know

I sent it to all the major media and no one will touch it. Even tho it's NOT a conspiracy theory - no, it's video history that has been altered.

This means the media was in on it BIGTIME. And, still are.

I sent it to Olberman, too. Nothing.

But, it's not a wild theory, it's just there right before your eyes. I sent it to Huffington, everywhere. They won't touch it.

Rita Cosby just did a special on the anniversary of the bombing two weeks ago - with Nichols son who says there were gov people involved and she said she wanted to follow up on it. I sent it to her.

And, I let them all see who else I was sending it to.


Nothing.


The media and the public has to be POUNDED with this. This will help unravel the lie behind 911. I put it on YouTube and MySpace and I sent to any org searching for the truth about OKC.

[Sinti]

8. "The media was in on it" - not necessarily

Unfortunately, the truth is not as important as the perception of truth. No major media, or anyone else who stands to make a bunch of money, would rock the boat by telling the public a truth that is outside of their perception of truth.

Not only that, most people will believe whatever the majority of other people believe, even in the face of compelling evidence. Peer pressure, if you will, or the power of the social norm is much stronger than logic. This is a major part of why a Really Big Lie is so much easier to believe for the public than a small one.

If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

Joseph Goebbels

[neebob]

9. If you want me to believe the government did OKC

you need to tell me why. Why did they do it? At least with 911 there's an obvious and plausible motive. So, do tell me: Why did the government blow up the Murrah building?

[politrix]

10. Nope. Not My Job To Tell You. It's Your Job To Think

I don't have a crystal ball like the people who KNOW 'Flight 93' is the truth.

All I have is video proof that the lone truck bomb story isn't true. I also have proof that the media knew there were more bombs and more accomplices and somehow they chose to push the lone wolf story and swallow the multiple bomb stories they originally aired.

I know I sent them the video this week and I haven't seen anyone discuss it.

I know they'll talk about missing Aruba tourists instead of reporting how there was more than one bomb.

When two or more parties come together to practice deception or occlusion, that is a conspiracy.


WHY? I don't know.

That's why I keep pushing the video PROOF that lies were told so someone can add to what we DO KNOW: there was more than one bomb, even tho they said it wasn't after they said it was.

[politrix]

11. Sinti, All You Did Was Say They Had Reasons To Lie

And, be 'in' on it.

[politrix]

12. But, IF I Had To Guess WHY - I'd Say MONEY$$$$

From everything to keeping their jobs to not ruining their careers to getting better jobs for towing the line to all the money the people at the top made because they FINALLY got us to invade Iraq.

It's been raining money ever since for them.

They FBI helped blow the first WTC:

http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=fake+powder,+but+the+plan+was+called+off+by+an+F.B.I.+supervisor&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

But, it didn't outrage us enough to want to invade the middle east - so, they blew OKC and tried to blame Arabs but, it didn't work.

911 was the charm.

Uh, I mean, the 'trifecta'...

[Sinti]

13. They may believe their lies is what I meant.

They may suppress truth for reasons of "national security," their bosses/editors may tell them it's not news. They probably don't see it as lying, though. In many cases it's willful ignorance. I'm pretty sure at least 98 percent don't think they're doing anything wrong, even if, in the long run, it kills thousands of people. If a guy in a uniform, from a three-letter agency tells you to keep this on the low, as an average reporter you probably do, (or go to jail, or worse) and you forget.

They are not "in on it" as this silly site suggests.

http://www.geocities.com/debunking911/massivect.htm

They are doing their jobs. Right now their jobs appear to be reading White House press releases. :)

They are accepting the "norm," which is what most people do. You are one of the fortunate/unfortunate few who are not afraid to stray from that norm, apparently. More people should react that way, they don't, it's instinctive hive mind.

[Sinti]

14. As an aside, have you kids ever heard of Operation Mockingbird?

"Further details of Operation Mockingbird was revealed as a result of the Frank Church investigations (Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities) in 1975. According to the Congress report published in 1976: "The CIA currently maintains a network of several hundred foreign individuals around the world who provide intelligence for the CIA and at times attempt to influence opinion through the use of covert propaganda. These individuals provide the CIA with direct access to a large number of newspapers and periodicals, scores of press services and news agencies, radio and television stations, commercial book publishers, and other foreign media outlets." Church argued that the cost of misinforming the world cost American taxpayers an estimated $265 million a year."

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKmockingbird.htm

[politrix]

15. Nah, Cousin

"They are accepting the "norm," which is what most people do."


The norm is to know there MUST have been federal involvement to wire a federal building with multiple bombs that killed BABIES?!? To know that whoever killed all those babies is still on the loose, having lobster somewhere?


Go smoke a joint, a FAT ONE. And, come back and try again.

[Sinti]

16. To know it, and to say it out loud are two different animals.

I personally know a hell of a lot of things that I would not say out loud in a crowded room. Hell, topics which were in the news in days gone by sometimes get that funny look, and I have to dig up the absolute, unquestionable proof before folks will believe it's even possible.

The reporters would lose their jobs, be considered psychotic or worse, reputations destroyed. They forget. It's easier to forget, especially when it's something really traumatic. Their bosses, on the other hand, are much more suspect. Still, if a man from a 3-letter agency comes up to you and says, "you didn't see this," whoever you are, most people will agree they didn't see it, and go on with their lives.

:shrug: whatcha gonna do?

Force it out there, I say. There must be a way to make them recognize its existence. Calling them conspirators is not going to help your cause, though.

wish I could smoke a fat one, it would probably take the edge off

Edited to add:

As to Why - maybe it was a test, to see if they could pull off the "big lie" on Americans. Maybe the unexploded bombs were intentional, to see just how obedient folks would be, and how many questions would get asked.

[politrix]

17. "whatcha gonna do?"

"When betwixt the wrong and the right, I'll muster all my courage and run to the Light..."

Politrix


It's called "Do the right thing".

[Sinti]

18. Can't argue with you there. I wish more people felt that way. n/t

[neebob]

19. If thinking is my job, I'm already working overtime

That's why I'm in this forum, because something put me in a rethinking mode re 9/11. I've seen stuff about multiple charges in the Murrah building before and don't doubt it. I'm already convinced the government let 9/11 happen and am leaning toward made it happen. So I don't need to be convinced the government would attack its own citizens. You said this video is proof of that in Oklahoma City. I'd need a motive to go that far.

[graphixtech2]

20. watch the full videos

of Roberts and Partin.

http://digitalstyledesigns.com/pages/moviesokc.htm

[politrix]

21. Then, WHAT Do You Think You're Seeing In The Video?

How would YOU describe the video clip I provided?

[graphixtech2]

22. makes no diff what I think

listen to "credible experts" in link provided above.

Brigadier General Benton Parton's resume:
http://www.brasscheck.com/OKBOMB/partinres.html

[Recursion]

26. Like I said in another comment...

I personally don't *see* anything important in that video. I *hear* people saying "yeah, I heard they found 2 other bombs". You hyped this like there was footage of bombs being removed but I just don't see that in any of the footage.

[neebob]

28. A collection of early news reports about additional bombs,

taken from or combined with part of an Alex Jones documentary. I can't say I saw hazmat teams removing unexploded bombs from the building - really I just heard people talking about other bombs. It doesn't prove there were any other bombs, certainly not that the government placed them. Yeah, General Parton's report is compelling and the whole thing is wrong.

[neebob]

29. And by the way it was an Alex Jones documentary that brought me here

Martial Law has been playing on my local cable access channel. It all sounds very believable, up to the point where he starts talking about the Bohemian Grove. But then you find out that Larry Silverstein didn't actually buy the WTC towers, he just leased them - still compelling in conjunction with Building 7, but there goes Alex Jones' credibility on that one little detail. Or the one where Marvin Bush was only on the board the board of a company that did electronic security and not exactly the owner of the company that did all the security as Jones implies.

Anyway, I'm still open to controlled demolition at the WTC or the Murrah Building, but not because Alex Jones says that's what happened. He exaggerates.

[Ezlivin]

25. They were hoping to pass the precursor to the Patriot Act

Yep, that's right. That's how long they've wanted to pass it.

Read more about the 1996 Federal Anti-terrorism act here: http://www.fas.org/irp/crs/96-499.htm

[Recursion]

23. Maybe I missed it?

I watched the video but I didn't see any devices being removed. I saw people saying there were either one or two unexploded ordnances found in the building, which was confirmed by the Justice Dept at the time. I didn't see any UXO being removed. How is this going to persuade anybody who doesn't already believe? Disasters like this always produce confusion and people always pass bum word early on.

Maybe I missed it? At what time on the video is the actual footage of UXO actually being removed, not just people saying they heard UXO was being removed? It's a pretty long video so maybe I just looked away and missed it or something.

Also frankly I was a little disappointed when the video went to the post-produced researcher's work without making it clear that this wasn't at-the-time footage anymore.

[boastOne43]

24. Which Alex Jones video is this taken from?

Does anybody know which Alex Jones produced video this clip is taken from? I'd like to see if does show the actual UXO's removed.

[lightbulb]

27. Google: murrah "practice bombs"

I don't have an authoritative source for this info, but I do remember it from the time, and a google search provides anecdotal confirmation of my recollection. Shortly after the bombing the story was reported that the devices found were actually "practice bombs" used for training by the ATF. So there goes the theory that the found items were hearsay, they were just toys. I don't believe it for a moment, but there you go.