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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 09:52 AM Original message |
What the $#@!%& Hit the Pentagon???? |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
1. American 77 |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 12:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Response |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 01:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Responses to responses |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 10:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
26. You're right about the circumference but it was still a fast turn for that |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 01:59 AM Response to Reply #26 |
33. One or two points |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 08:30 AM Response to Reply #33 |
39. The wings at the WTC cut through almost to the tips |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-12-05 12:57 AM Response to Reply #39 |
76. Size |
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Sgt. Baker (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 01:03 PM Response to Reply #39 |
96. you are comparing |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 11:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
30. I saw an article that said they recovered black box of Fl 77 but didn't |
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Sgt. Baker (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
3. I can cover A. |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 02:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Yes, flying a 757 is EASY. Why do you even need to take flying lessons? |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 02:49 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. For what the hijackers wanted to do, it IS easy. |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 09:57 PM Response to Reply #6 |
24. Except that what the putative pilot of flight 77 did was essentially land |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 10:07 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. No. Landing isn't what the pilot of Flight 77 did. |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 10:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Give me a break. Bringing the plane in fairly level to the ground |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 12:07 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Nuh-uh. |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 05:29 AM Response to Reply #27 |
35. exactly the right spot ??? |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 08:34 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. "He" was descending a few thousand feet in a circlular turn and |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-12-05 01:04 AM Response to Reply #40 |
77. How high is the Pentagon |
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Sgt. Baker (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 12:53 PM Response to Reply #40 |
95. flying close to the ground |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 06:16 PM Response to Reply #24 |
57. I'd say he rather failed to land. |
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Sgt. Baker (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 03:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. It's really not that hard to fly |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 09:56 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. Yeah, I actually piloted a Cessna for a bit when I was a kid but |
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Sgt. Baker (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 05:18 AM Response to Reply #23 |
34. Not really |
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Ezlivin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 07:03 PM Response to Reply #10 |
59. Yes it is. |
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Sgt. Baker (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 01:22 PM Response to Reply #59 |
97. The pilots |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
7. Mind Controlled Witnesses Muddy The Obvious Inconsistencies |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 03:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Have you ever seen a cruise missile impact? |
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demodewd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 03:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Except |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 04:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. What are you talking about? |
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demodewd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 08:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. no missile |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 09:05 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I see... |
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demodewd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 10:42 AM Response to Reply #22 |
43. re: dupes |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 11:01 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. So duplicate planes and possibly remote control simplifies things? (NT) |
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demodewd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 03:20 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. yes...it does |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 04:28 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. but its also possible to use gas to kill the pilots and take over control |
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demodewd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 07:11 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. I think |
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ROH (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 08:09 PM Response to Reply #60 |
69. If you are correct that the crew and passengers were gassed, |
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demodewd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 10:17 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. hijack -by-remote flying capabilities |
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ROH (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-05 11:50 AM Response to Reply #72 |
134. If you are correct about drones being used, do you have any thoughts |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-05 12:27 AM Response to Reply #72 |
137. Group of military and commercial pilots conclude 9/11 by remote control |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 11:28 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. I agree that no changeout is easier; but either is possible & there is |
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Sgt. Baker (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 01:32 PM Response to Reply #60 |
98. Allen Dulles |
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demodewd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 03:41 PM Response to Reply #98 |
107. what to you is evidence? |
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Sgt. Baker (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 03:57 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. Saw a plane |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 04:06 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. Yeah, it's ALWAYS I have a "friend" who saw the airplane hit-- |
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Sgt. Baker (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 04:43 PM Response to Reply #111 |
113. I gave you all of that info |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 05:35 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. I know where 395 is, but it is a long highway. |
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Sgt. Baker (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 06:32 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. uh |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 08:33 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. Uh, sorry, people have claimed to have seen the Pentagon hit from |
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Sgt. Baker (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 08:57 PM Response to Reply #116 |
117. ok |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 09:46 PM Response to Reply #117 |
122. Thanks, I really appreciate your replies... |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-12-05 01:13 AM Response to Reply #22 |
78. USS Cole |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 08:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
19. Pentagon Showed Fuel Bomb And Ballistic Penetration |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 08:20 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. I can't wait to see your proof for this one! |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 11:39 AM Response to Reply #20 |
46. Links Gone- How About You Show Me Plane Engines |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 05:14 PM Response to Reply #46 |
55. Sure .. here you go. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 07:26 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. Ok, Nice Pictures. Not Like The WTC Where There Is No Doubt |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 08:04 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. Why do you insist of a standard of proof ... |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-12-05 12:15 PM Response to Reply #67 |
83. I Do Meet My Own Standards-It Is Certain That This Is WTC 2 |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-12-05 01:23 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. infiltrators? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-12-05 03:12 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. We Do Not Know Everything About The Mind |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 06:28 AM Response to Reply #86 |
93. That we don't know everything about the mind |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 08:05 PM Response to Reply #46 |
68. They never existed and you know it. (nt) |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 05:36 AM Response to Reply #19 |
36. That very sensible of the Pentagon brass |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 11:42 AM Response to Reply #36 |
47. Sensible Yes-Saving $ On Black Ops |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 02:36 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Come-on now |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 03:02 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Not Reasonable = UnAmercian Sentiment-Anti Justice |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 03:13 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. "disinfo action" = people who disagree with me. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 07:37 PM Response to Reply #50 |
62. People Who Are Not Accountable To Reason |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 07:50 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. You believe you are accountable to reason, so |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 08:01 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Confusion Tactic - Inverted Positive/Negative - Disinfo Technique;check |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 09:03 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. Check???? LOL |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 11:43 PM Response to Reply #66 |
74. I don't think many or any here think the Pod theory is supported |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-12-05 05:43 AM Response to Reply #74 |
82. I think you're right |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 03:44 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Sure it was??? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 07:49 PM Response to Reply #53 |
63. Pill Distorts Reality - Check It Out! |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 07:59 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. It stands and I'm still doing it. You can't change it. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 08:14 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. Lots Of Absolute Evidence Exists On WTC-Change The Subject Tactic |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-12-05 05:29 AM Response to Reply #70 |
81. What about this picture of the core columns |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-12-05 01:22 AM Response to Reply #49 |
79. Military Target |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-12-05 11:00 PM Response to Reply #79 |
89. Perhaps Not Strong Enough-Justify Multiple Wars |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 03:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. MIND CONTROL??????? |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 11:51 PM Response to Reply #9 |
31. Mind control research is being done by Gov't and fairly advanced |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 08:54 AM Response to Reply #31 |
41. Don't be so hard on yourself. |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 11:47 PM Response to Reply #41 |
75. Mind control isn't an issue I'm interested in here; you are just playing |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 03:14 PM Response to Reply #31 |
51. Psychology Showed The Potentials For MC In The 1960's |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 03:28 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Mind control should seal the case with the American public! (nt) |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 07:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Actually the real mind control was 9/11 itself. Fortunately it is |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 08:01 PM Response to Reply #16 |
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Frederik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
14. The coroner |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 07:49 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Yes, I remember that story-- he was definitely involved in some shady |
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ROH (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 07:58 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Thank you for the link. Illuminating! |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
28. Additional oddity: why would a human pilot come in at an oblique angle? |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 05:40 AM Response to Reply #28 |
37. Bounce off the building??? |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 08:29 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Yes, obviously if you come in at a weak enough angle, then the plane |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 09:38 AM Response to Reply #38 |
42. How do you define bounce off the building? |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 10:59 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. I meant the first way |
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Sgt. Baker (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 01:41 PM Response to Reply #44 |
99. it wouldn't bounce |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-12-05 01:38 AM Response to Reply #28 |
80. Angle |
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John Doe II (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-12-05 02:33 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. If you're a suicide pilot |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 04:20 AM Response to Reply #85 |
90. Where's Rummy |
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John Doe II (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 04:40 AM Response to Reply #90 |
91. Rummy was not bothered |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 05:25 AM Response to Reply #91 |
92. My point |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 12:06 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. Do you believe in MIHOP or LIHOP or neither? |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 02:28 PM Response to Reply #94 |
101. Neither |
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John Doe II (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 02:41 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. I've no problems with unusual positions! |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 03:12 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. Afghanistan / WTC |
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John Doe II (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 03:22 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. Afghanistan/WTC |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 03:46 PM Response to Reply #105 |
108. Replies |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 09:42 PM Response to Reply #104 |
120. See: A History of 9/11 regarding info relating to some of your statements |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 01:31 AM Response to Reply #120 |
126. Not such a good idea any more |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 04:22 PM Response to Reply #101 |
112. Thanks for the well thought-out reply |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 01:39 AM Response to Reply #112 |
127. We'll see |
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John Doe II (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 02:17 PM Response to Reply #127 |
129. Just a few thoughts |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 09:25 PM Response to Reply #101 |
119. There's evidence of more direct complicity from officials testimony |
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John Doe II (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 02:38 PM Response to Reply #92 |
102. Yap, 7000 feet |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 03:31 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. Hani can't fly |
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John Doe II (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 03:57 PM Response to Reply #106 |
110. Thanks a lot |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 09:45 PM Response to Reply #102 |
121. Rumsfeld's assistant was at the NMCC phone conference & briefing him |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 09:21 PM Response to Reply #90 |
118. The plane was being monitored by both FAA and Pentagon and |
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Kevin Fenton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 08:52 AM Response to Reply #118 |
128. Plane being monitored |
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Sgt. Baker (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 01:45 PM Response to Reply #28 |
100. honestly |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
29. re: C7&D2&E2; what happened to the real Fl 77? |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
56. You should add consideration for the damage done |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 07:02 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Really? I never heard that last bit. Source? |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-12-05 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
87. Whatever hit Pentagon seems to have had high radioactivity??? |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-12-05 10:21 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Anyone seen any other evidence supporting the high radioactivity? |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-13-05 09:49 PM Response to Reply #87 |
123. Doesn't that support the missile theory? Or remote control military plane |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
124. More support for the original post re: plane hitting generator,etc. |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-14-05 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
125. a witness reported something different at the Pentagon |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-05 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
130. The pentagon video is a key |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-05 10:50 AM Response to Reply #130 |
133. It has been done but the calculation depend on how you calculate the |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-05 12:13 AM Response to Reply #133 |
135. I dunno |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-16-05 12:21 AM Response to Reply #135 |
136. These aren't officially released videos. Why haven't videos been release |
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ROH (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-05 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
131. Another point regarding the OS |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-15-05 10:49 AM Response to Reply #131 |
132. That is an EXCELLENT point! |
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