Threshold Of 9-11 Activism; Can We Make The Step?

[Christophera]

Threshold Of 9-11 Activism; Can We Make The Step?

What is really happening with the public movement in demand of truth? Where is it really at? Who has control or why? Why can't the public unify and over come the fearful stigma created in the flag waving of terrorist scares that made good Americans afraid to say, "It looked more like and explosion than a collapse." or "Where was the Air Force?".

An Examination of Subtle Fears:

This examination is to pre address an issue that may be an underlying cognitive dissonance of 9-11 facts to enable a greater motive of dissociation by the people in the longest term.

Now, those sincerely seeking truth have uncovered a plethora of issues that present a daunting and confusing sub culture based in information. That subculture assumes, for the most part that America DOES want to know the truth. Since nearly 4 years have passed, the tendency for much of the public, after another subverted election, is to assume failure and ultimate control by the present factions in control and no truth will be found. Thusly the surficially correct logic that comes in the form of a question from even the more radical Americans, "Why should I make a target out of myself when we won't get the truth anyway?" Much of this is based in the fact that those of the 9-11 truth movement just do not have enough information to rationally take a stand on exactly what issue, of the many, they should support and work towards as a common focus.

Many can accept the above and most know this next sentence is true, still, it is good to keep it out front.

Americans do not want the truth, however, they do need it.

When people do not want what they need, there is a problem, a dysfunction. Example: The 30 year alcoholic desperately needs to stop drinking but does not want to and so dies.

This truth America needs to know is deeply repugnant from a social perspective that was born out of many generations of religious control over the society, taboo. America unconsciously knows that the truth is something they do not want to confront and so willingly turns its eyes and ears and hearts from knowing, from acknowledging facts in our democratic, group decision.

The Threshold:

This thread is intended to broach the subject of our dysfunction here. Yes, dysfunction. It has to do with the above, with our constant dissociation of vital facts that logically tell us to "UNIFY", but we do not. More complacent and controlled elements of our society have been dissociating for years from vital facts and now this is commonly considered status quo.

The Threshold is where we learn to reason, absolute back each other up in a totally rightful and lawful fashion. Where we accept the instinctual onus of forgetting our many differences as contrivances by corporations/churches/governments to separating us and unifying upon the principals/philosophies/ideals of our founding documents and their potential service to our dreams and those of our children.



I started posting on DU in this thread where upon I introduced factors I am absolutely certain of and have substantial proof of that originates with photographic evidence that FEMA has intentionally deceived the public with its WTC report and the structural configuration of the Twin Towers. I do believe explosives were used.

For Those Who Don't Believe Explosives Were Used in the WTC Collapses:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=34357&mesg_id=34357

Another thread where I showed multiple proofs of the concrete core FEMA describes as "multiple steel columns".

Strange Building Damage Patterns on 9/11
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=35330&mesg_id=35330

Throughout, I explain all of the events of 9-11 at the WTC towers, including the issue of freefall and the total pulverization of everything except for steel in towers.

I contacted paulthompson independant of this board to bring attention to my WTC 9-11 site

http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11scenario.html

and he was thoughtful enough of the evidence there of explosions in the basement to start a thread here titled;

Can anyone explain this? I'm confused
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=35240&mesg_id=35240

He asked "Why this wasn't all over the web?" and other good questions.

I posted in that thread and fielded all questions and criticism with reasonable answers explaining how explosives were planted and utilized to create the effects we saw that have been deceptively termed "collapse".

There are some very supportive and credible comments in that thread and elsewhere of the scenario my web site presents

Below is my last post where I suggest that 9-11 activists work together to create an authority to refer to and do it democratically through a competition to determine the most comprehensive scenario from raw evidence, common knowledge and other unofficial sources.

67. Ok, Leasing Scams, Then Demo, Then War Economy
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=35240&mesg_id=35738&page=

I then posted a thread called;

Tower Hit 1st Falls Last Then Falls Wrong Way
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=35739&mesg_id=35739

That thread brought out many interesting points about HOW we interact, leadership, authority and relevance.

The Democratic Underground is by far the most function I've seen on any board, largely due to attentive moderation and the resultant capacity of poster to remain compliant to the rules AND reasonable. The dysfunction here is shared with all other boards and it is based in the fact that there THERE IS NO AUTHORITY. Moderators just keep the peace and don't often make technical calls or enforce the accountability issue of having evidence and using it with reason in argument. Ultimately I propose we the people create our own authority.

There is a tendency to assume that thread popularity indicates a valid issue and a "majority rules" position is easily defended with judgment calls. I repeat, there is no authority AND that IS the problem.

In the case of America not wanting the truth, the thread with the truth will not be popular.

Recently I've posted a consolidation of WTC eyewitness accounts that show specifically that there were a series of relatively minor, in proportion to the entire event, but yet nevertheless, absolute proof that a sophisticated demolition took place and that the plane impacts were used to mask the detonations, seismically and otherwise, associated with fracturing the foundations and or basement walls, either partially or completely below the towers.

Explosions In Basement, Cracks & Shatters Concrete Walls.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x36207

It has no replies. This is the Threshold, can we take the step? Can we use information validated by testing it ourselves even though it creates socio political dynaimcs that are so radical it crosses sensitive boundaries?

All technical authority that might verify information as valid information will not, because of the aforementioned fears. Any issue that depends on any accountability from government is a lost cause. This is proven. This issue of explosions in the basement is proven and we do not need accountability from government to use the information amongst ourselves as citizens and our obligation to be involved with our democratic form of government, as a point of unity, one voice reasonably demanding accountability. We can create one voice by either unifying behind a single perception of the causes of the towers demise on 9-11, or the notion that we should conduct a formal competition to determine which scenario is the most comprehensive explanation for the events we know transpired on that Tuesday Morning.

So here we sit, knowing for sure that amongst that plethora of information, some certainly not at all useful and others vita, know that there is information which can be used to create such certainty as to solidify the American public into realizing that it NEEDS to get rid of its unreasonable fears and ignore the fat that it does not want the truth.

Distracted by continuous overt intrusion continued throughout communication technology, we hardly communicate at all on a community basis of families. We, as a people are a contrived series of impressions left by media in our brains. We constantly struggle to bypass this with reason and logic serving natural higher human principals, if we are effective and sincere activists. In this struggle someone came up with the sick saying, "I love my country but I fear my government", only sick because it feeds a fear. Wisdom poorly stated.

I'd revise it, "I love my county and so work to control my government"

Media works to make us afraid of one another with stories of internet stalkers or harassment, while other subcultures render a culture of fear in teaching younger generations to be afraid of government, to hide, to be anonymous for safety. Many post with other than their real names and limit their support and approval for radical but sensical ideas and notions. This is unfortunate.

Everything ever written says we control our government and that as soon as officials fail to use "Official Discretion", they no longer have immunity for their actions, none of them. The definition of "Official Discretion" is, "always rightful and lawfull."

We live in comparative comfort with what has felt like security since we began and naturally want that to continue. We have a sense of foreboding about the callous disregard of law and the subsequent wars conducted illegally. We have the means to make a sincere and unified statement that, on its own, demands of any who might fly the flag, attention to getting the truth of 9-11.

Can we use this information of the FEMA deception regarding the core, the sand and gravel, the photos of the core standing without the exterior steel, the photos of rebar, while none showing the official steel core columns. Can we use this information to know that it is true, FEMA and the mayor of new york have successfully deceived the world. Why did they do that? Is it because if it was known that the core was concrete, fire wouldn't suffice as a reason to bring the towers down (as if steel would too?) and then, how did the concrete get turned into sand and gravel?

The answer to that is a very difficult. It implies that there has been a plan in place to conduct 9-11 since before the towers were constructed. For some this is hard to accept. To them I can only offer that the original intent was proper and to provide for a safe economical removal, it was a secrete that was learned and exploited by secrete others.

And, I can say that those secrete elements are small and do not represent all of the people in government and targeting any of us exposes them. Feel free and without fear in supporting anything that comprehensively explains what the world saw and using that to demand the opening of the investigation because it has been rendered NULL and VOID by common knowledge.

A plea must be formulated from within us that reasonably make the compassionate request of all those who would accept the official story, to reserve their approval until the time a proper investigation has been done because it is very clear explosives were going off in the basement as the planes were hitting the building and there is no way the official story explains freefall no evidence of the structure they claim was there exists.

My name is Christopher A. Brown, I live in Santa Barbara California, my email is, [email protected] and I'm sick of living in a fearful society. Lets get an email list going of people who can recognize what is evidence of the raw variety, not subject to official manipulation and distortion.

[DulceDecorum]

1. And what

will Ann Coulter & Co
do to the persons on that list when they get their hands on it?
Who was the Roman emperor who preceeded Claudius?

Tiberius Claudius Drusus Nero Germanicus This-that-and-the-other (for I shall not trouble you yet with all my titles) who was once, and not so long ago either, known to my friends and relatives and associates as "Claudius the Idiot", or "That Claudius", or "Claudius the Stammere", or "Clau-Clau-Claudius" or at best as "Poor Uncle Claudius", am now about to write this strange history of my life; starting from my earliest childhood and continuing year by year until I reach the fateful point of change where, some eight years ago, at the age of fifty-one, I suddenly found myself caught in what I may call the "golden predicament" from which I have never since become disentangled.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/067972477X/102-2234996-7817717

That Claudius was one interesting cat.