HOLY CRAP - Did NBC Affiliate Mess Up and Slip

[freedom_please]

For the first time ever, the main stream media just featured a fair and balanced look at the Arizona 9/11 Conference...

... Check this out before it gets deleted (and Digg it if you like it):
http://snipurl.com/NBC_slip_up

By the way, thanks to 911 Blogger for the heads up about this:
http://www.911blogger.com/

[MADem]

1. HOLY CRAP---that LINK does not WORK. NT

[freedom_please]

3. Both links work for me...

I just tried it... both links work for me... the link to Digg and the link to the video.

You might try using a different browser (or maybe your ISP has been alerted to block this -- it wouldn't surprise me).

[MADem]

9. There's only one link in the OP, and it didn't work...

Did you change it? Why yes, you did...my post is timestamped before your edited one.

And it does work now.

[i miss america]

5. Here's a direct link

http://www.azcentral.com/12news/news/articles/conspiracy02232007-CR.html
Once there, click on the PLAY VIDEO image at right.

:kick:

[MADem]

13. That worked beautifully....a snippet for those who are reluctant to click with no info

What if everything we thought we knew about 9-11 was wrong?
12 News
Feb. 23, 2007 09:38 PM

People still questioning 9-11 theories

Hundreds of people from across the country descend on a Chandler resort to challenge popular beliefs about 9-11.

What many people consider to be the most devastating attack ever on Americans is also the government's greatest lie, according to many attending the 9/11 Accountability Conference.

One person told us she feels like they get nothing but lies and propaganda from the government when it comes to seeking answers....The 9/11 Truth Movement began on the internet.
Followers cite alternative research that suggests the hijackers on the planes had help, and it wasn't from Osama Bin Laden. They question everything about the attacks.

Truth Movement supporters say they doubt much of what the government tells them about U.S. intelligence, the twin towers collapse and the investigations. Some people we talked to say the government has such highly sophisticated technology, that it would be impossible for the planes to go off course without anyone knowing.

[Scout1071]

55. Thank you.

[nebenaube]

76. it's gone now... n/t

[Subdivisions]

6. Did for me and I have to say that it is about goddamn time

this got some MSM airtime, even if it is because the conference was in that TV station's coverage area.

I've been a LIHOPer but have become more convinced that they MIHOP.

[Cetacea]

29. Thank you !

If you need some moral support just check out related youtube videos and observe the huge number of hits these vids have been getting.

[CrazyOrangeCat]

2. tell us about it, please n/t

[MADem]

19. See my post above, and use the link above it

A bunch of 911 Conspiracy Theorists are having a conference in AZ. The newscast covered the conference and had a few snippets of interviews with attendees, with accusations ranging from "they had to have help..from Bush?" to "there was NO WAY that building could have collapsed..."--it's the stuff you've seen here in the 911 forum, but compressed to a few minutes and with video.

[Clark2008]

41. Just a slight correction

They're no more 9/11 Conspiracy Theorists than those who believe the government line. The government's version is also a "conspiracy theory." They're each theories that involve two or more people working together to commit a crime, which is a conspiracy.

:hi:

[MADem]

53. I'm not qualifying the official report at all. I am merely reporting on the video and accompanying

narrative. I didn't set up a dichotomy where if you take one side, you must rebuke the other--I didn't even discuss the other viewpoints, of which there are many.

I simply said a bunch of conspiracy theorists were meeting in AZ at a conference, and they said this and that...no more than that.

So, no correction required. I didn't address the matter in any context at all.

[Rosemary2205]

4. The Netvocates are busy around here today.

http://www.azcentral.com/12news/news/articles/conspiracy02232007-CR.html

Story about the worst of a few hundred tin foil hatters having a get together with the hope a few DUer's will agree and Rush/Hannity/Boortz/Beck/Malkin have have a little fun next week.

[Subdivisions]

7. Are you joking? You mean that you actually BELIEVE in the

official story?

[freedom_please]

10. If you're asking me...

No way -- don't believe what we're told at all.

I'm just stunned because this is the first fair and balanced clip I've seen from the main stream media.

A producer is going to pay for this... hope s/he isn't "suicided".

[Subdivisions]

16. Actually was addressing Rosemary2205's comment but

in response I would say that the only thing that gives me any pause at all that there 9/11 thing than tinfoil hat theories is the scope of it. But, it's that very scope of it that makes me wonder just how it was not stopped and how so many failures occured that day.

[Rosemary2205]

11. Oh please.

If you want to help the OP give Rush a little fun next week, knock yourself out. Not for one millisecond to I believe the OP posted this because he/she/it is actually concerned about gov't sponsored murder of 3000 people.

[Subdivisions]

18. I don't give a fuck about Rush, et al! What I want is the goddamn

truth. Rush and his ilk are irrelevant and they can blow me all they want.

So, would you care to answer the question?

[Rosemary2205]

24. Oh a pissing match!

And cuss words too. How delightful. Why you think I'm your enemy I have no earthly idea.

[Subdivisions]

35. If my words offend you, I apologize and I don't want a pissing

match. I just want to know the truth. I have formed my opinion of 911 based on the total failure of this government on many fronts since 2000. This administration had it's sites set on Iraq from the very beginning and nothing about 911 makes sense. I've simply taken everything I know into consideration and have come to the conclusion that something about it is fishy. I don't give in to conspiracy theories. I don't believe in aliens at Area 51. I don't feel like a conspiracy theorist. I actually feel quite reasonable about my belief that there is more to it.

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[Jade Fox]

32. Used to feel that way too......

I hate the idea of some giant 9/11 conspiracy theory. But the evidence that something, other that what we've been told, was going on is pretty compelling. The official story is full of holes, and the outrageous behavior by those whose job it was to respond to just such an emergency cannot be blown off.

[City Lights]

38. Limpdick will have fun with or without me, so I don't give a rat's ass what

he thinks or what he does. Ditto for the other member of the right-wing hate klan. Fuck them all.

[flyarm]

56. as a 33 yr flight crew of one of the airlines involved..i will say this..

if you give a damn more about rush and hannity..than the truth being told..

everything you have been told about 9/11 is nothing but bullshit..

if you are more concerned about what hannity and rush say..then i think you are at the wrong place here...

do i know the full truth..no ..no one has those facts but this lying murdering white house and their operatives...

remember this when Nixon was guilty as sin..and people kept looking for truth..they were considered wearing tin foil hats...

it takes a village to coin a stupid saying ..to find the truth..some pieces will be nothing but crap..but the truth can only prevail..when people are willing to look at all the facts..to disect what occured..and to shred the lies one by one...

my co-workers died that day..as well as two of my neighbors sons..young men at the beginning of their adult lives...

their mothers cry daily...and they go to therapy with flight crew families in princeton still once a week,.they do not belive the official story..

and as a flight crew my entire adult life..i do not believe one fucking word in this white houses or our governments official story..not one fucking word!!

and i don't give a mother fucking thing about what the whores who propagandize for this white house say..

not one fucking word those mother fuckers say!!

i will fight till my last breath on this earth for the truth of what really happened on 9/11..if you could care less..then i say get out of the way...

i find it pitiful that anyone today..still today will defend the bullshit you were told about 9/11...it would take a mental midget to believe the bullshit!!

from a 33yr American Airlines flight crew ..2001 flight attendant of the year for the entire NYC base 2001...JFK/LGA/EWR

oh and my husband worked for a Major league baseball team Rush limpballs..was a go-fer for..and he covered up and procured women for all the executives fucking around for years....you don't have to worry..rush is the biggest scum bag in this nation and has committed treason to this country ..unlike anyone else in my entire 55 yr lifetime!!

fuck rush limpballs..

fly

[Straight Shooter]

68. Hear, hear, flyarm!!

I will fight till my last breath on this earth for the truth of what really happened on 9/11..if you could care less..then i say get out of the way...

:yourock:

[Twist_U_Up]

73. Its frustrating Fly but........

its coming out . Slowly but surely people are waking up
We will keep plugging along . Somethings gotta give sooner or later.
I just hope by then its not too late.
Truth To Power
Keep Pushing we are getting there

Excellent post BTW

[WilliamPitt]

62. You have exemplified the reason why the 9/11 Truth Movement has failed.

I have heard that shit-ass strawman line from a hundred Truthers, and it is bullshit every time.

I may say "I'm not sure about the controlled demolition story..."

...or "I'm not sure about the missile-hitting-the-Pentagon story..."

...or "I'm not sure of MIHOP."

And I will invariably get "YOU BELIEVE THE OFFICIAL STORY??!!111"

Fuck that shit.

One may believe the official story is bogus without accepting the more far-flung theories. But every time I hear that shit, I make sure I have just that much less to do with whoever used it, and with whatever cause they espouse.

Please don't do that anymore.

[Subdivisions]

66. Ummmm...I haven't damaged the 911 Movement. I support it. And,

I have alot of respect for you Will. I never mentioned those hair-brained theories, did I? In fact, you are the first to mention them in this thread.

"One may believe the official story is bogus without accepting the more far-flung theories."

That is my position also.

Please chill.

[WilliamPitt]

67. Never said you did.

But you did run this one out there in the face of disagreement:

"Are you joking? You mean that you actually BELIEVE in the official story?"

...and that sucks.

[Subdivisions]

70. You are right.,

However, the poster I responded to was being dismissive of those attending the conference, calling them tinfoilers, and did not elaborate on her/his position regarding the facts of 911. My question wasn't meant to be the strawman meme you so detest. It was meant to illicit a reply that stated clearly the poster's position. I never really thought the poster believes the official story. But I should also say that to assume that the conference attendees are all tin-foil hat conspiracists, as the poster did, is wrong. Sure, there will be those who bring up the bullshit stuff, but I hope they are in the minority.

You are probably in a much better position to hear such strawman bullshit on a more regular basis than am I and I can see how such a statement could piss you off. But I assure you that was not my intention.

[Twist_U_Up]

74. I have some news for you, The Truth Movement just got Started !!

You know the saying Mr.WilliamPitt

You aint seen nothing yet !

Everyday more and more people are waking up.
You too will wake up someday, like it or not.
I just hope by then its not too late.

[tenseconds]

77. re: MIHOP

MIHOP isn't "far-flung". Controlled demolition is a scientific reality. CD of WTC 7 is a proven fact. You've had five years to solidify and confirm these obvious truths.

Mr Wishy-Washy.

[Anarcho-Socialist]

79. Proven by who?

Which structural engineers are you thinking of?

[proud2BlibKansan]

49. You didn't check out that link, did you?

[freedom_please]

8. How long before this video gets erased?

Any bets... there's no way this was to get out the way it did... someone is going to pay.

Or, maybe they'll change the video once this gets traction and run a hit piece -- I wouldn't be surprised.

What do you think about this?

[slowry]

12. ...

Are we watching the same video? It seems completely unremarkable.

Thanks for wasting my time though (?).

:tinfoilhat:

[freedom_please]

14. Yes, you're right...

... And that's the point -- for the first time (that I've seen), the MSM didn't call the people who attended this conference "conspiracy theorists".

[karlrschneider]

20. If they're NOT conspiracy theorists, there are none on the planet.

:eyes:

[MADem]

23. Oh, please...why would that happen? It's a conference of conspiracy theorists

and it happened. There are several hundred people attending. If it were a conference of shoe salesmen it would probably get the same coverage.

It won't get erased. It'll sink like a stone because it won't resonate, but it won't get erased.

[freedom_please]

33. Sink Like a Stone Like This...

... Look how many people watched this video -- and Google (alledgedly reset the counter to zero):
http://snipurl.com/Amazing_Video

As of this moment, 4,818,366 people watched this "conspiracy theory" movie... are you up to the challenge to some heavy stuff?

[MADem]

39. I have some news for you. When people put up videos, folks all OVER THE WORLD watch them!!!

Over four million people watched THIS video, too: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7877585332377133287

So what's your point???

[JackRiddler]

69. the point surely is to answer your claim of "no resonance" nt

[Subdivisions]

47. 4,818,366 screwballs and nutcases. n/t

:sarcasm:

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

64. Look, please stop trying to pop their tiny little bubble.

If the 9/11 Scholars for 9/11 Truth didn't continually insinuate (with no supporting evidence whatsoever) that the government was out to get them, their entire argument would fall apart. And we wouldn't want that to happen. Right?

[MrPrax]

15. Link seems to work...

Is this the story:

What if everything we thought we knew about 9-11 was wrong?

12 News
Feb. 23, 2007 09:38 PM

People still questioning 9-11 theories.

Hundreds of people from across the country descend on a Chandler resort to challenge popular beliefs about 9-11.

What many people consider to be the most devastating attack ever on Americans is also the government's greatest lie, according to many attending the 9/11 Accountability Conference.

One person told us she feels like they get nothing but lies and propaganda from the government when it comes to seeking answers about the attack.

...

Others say, the twin towers could not have collapsed the way they did without some kind of controlled demolition.

And many fear the government is using the war on terror to further an agenda to take away American's freedoms.

The 9-11 Truth followers are calling for a new independent investigation. They believe- high ranking U.S. government officials are covering up the truth, and may have in some way orchestrated the attacks.

AZCentral

Not much of a story other than the fact that the writer (or the editor) doesn't do the usual 'conspiracy' attack prior to getting the quotes. That is actually honest. I don't care if people believe this or that or whatever -- I DO believe there are some important questions that haven't been investigated thoroughly and I DO get tired of people who fling out the 'conspiracy' charge at the drop of a hat. Shows a level of deep faith in the government that is NOT quite warranted anymore...if ever in a democracy.

[karlrschneider]

17. HAHAHAHAHAHA. A thousand screwballs in the same place!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

:rofl:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Subdivisions]

21. Screwballs?

[karlrschneider]

22. Nutcases. Morans. Shithouse rat crazy.

Like that.
:D

[Cetacea]

26. read the rules. nt

[MADem]

30. The poster wasn't talking about YOU. Or anyone HERE.

He was, if I am not mistaken, referring to the individuals attending the conference.

I don't see anything in the "rules" that prohibit insults directed at people attending a conference.

[karlrschneider]

36. Exactly. Thanks.

:D

[MADem]

44. Any time.

I've actually read those rules!! I try to follow them, to the extent I can!

[tenseconds]

78. rules

All the people who don't believe in MIHOP and don't post here are slow minded nut cases in denial. That leaves you out and thems the rules.

[Cetacea]

40. Ok. You are technically correct

Thank you.

[Subdivisions]

43. I beg to differ. Considering the fact that I stated my belief that

there's more to the 911 story in post #6 and so by inference I am being called a moran and a nutcase as well as anyone else in this thread that has no trust in our government.

[Cetacea]

45. Yes...The inference thing.

I was thinking that myself, therefore the poster is insulting me as well.

[MADem]

51. Well, throw me on that bus, too, then.

Because I think anyone who would fly to AZ, rent a hotel room, and pay a conference fee, to exchange ideas about planes that aren't planes flying over the Navy Annex into the Pentagon, and magic explosives in the WTC, and far out ideas of that nature ARE batshit crazy nutcases who have way too much time on their hands.

So, if you want to EXTRAPOLATE from that, go ahead. It's not DIRECTED at you, though. The only way you can catch it is if you stand in the way and insist upon a piece of it.

[Cetacea]

58. what "magic explosives"

There are numerous news reels of interviews of people right after the collapse who told of mini-explosions before the collapse. Some of the journalist themselves reported the same. The fact that these original accounts are never shown helps sow the seeds of doubt that feed so-called conspiracy theorists. And no matter what you believe, it was a conspiracy that involved two or more people, as one poster already pointed out.

Thanks for the advice. I was just a bit upset at the method the post in question was worded.

[mhatrw]

71. And what of the people who strongly believe BushCo orchestrated 9/11

but do NOT fly to AZ, rent a hotel room, and pay a conference fee to try to do something about it?

What do you think of those people?

[MADem]

48. "A thousand screwballs in the same place" plainly referred to the conference.

Now, if you want to TAKE offense, that's up to you. But in order to actually grasp that offense and hold it angrily to your bosom, you will first have to get on a plane and get to that conference to qualify for the insult.

It wasn't directed at you. It was directed at the conference attendees. The "..in the same place" phrase clearly defined the universe of people involved.

[Cetacea]

50. well, we can at least agree

that the post was extremely creative, original, brilliant, and a true work of genius.

[freedom_please]

54. Can you tell me...

What happened to cause Building 7 to collapse?

It wasn't hit by an airplane.
It didn't have any major fires.
The police and fire department were given a 10-second countdown that the building would be "pulled" -- industry jargon of a planned demo.

Apparently, the government gave us at least 5 different versions of what happened (and the 9/11 commission didn't even talk about it in their report).

Building 7 concerns me.

I'd love to hear your thoughts on this chilling report:
http://snipurl.com/Building7_Pulled

[Cetacea]

60. Stop! You'll make my head explode!

Excellent point, btw.

[Subdivisions]

63. I didn't take offense and I'm not angry. Merely

making an observation. And I respectfully disagree with your comment. By stating that 1000 people at a conference in AZ are nutcases because they do not accept the "official" story of 911 infers that ALL people who think like those at the conference are by extension nutcases.

I assure you that I am not a nutcase simply because I refuse to buy this government's bullshit.

[karlrschneider]

34. Yawn

:boring:

[Subdivisions]

37. Can you please add some substance to your posts? n/t

[Cetacea]

42. Better left to sleep. eom

[StrictlyRockers]

75. Let the dead sleep.

He is not interested in the truth. He is interested in getting good sleep. Investigating this stuff is not the path to that. Let him get his sleep.

SR

[Subdivisions]

27. OK. So the 911 Commission Reports stands as the final word on

9/11 and there's nothing to see here. Moving along.

[SpiralHawk]

61. Offical SpiralHawk report on 9/11: MIHOP

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

59. Pardon me...

...but the preferred nomenclature is "unmedicated shithats."

[Cetacea]

25. The report and the poster underestimated the huge numbers

of people who do not believe the official story, including a majority of New Yorkers and many of the families who lost loved ones on 9/11.

The non-official story has extremely long legs, and rightly so.

[Subdivisions]

46. Those people don't matter because they are screwballs and nutcases.

:sarcasm:

See post #22 for more.

[golden voyages]

28. How does questioning the obviously false government version

of what took place make one a screwball?

[Cetacea]

31. Exactly. Those who believe the official nonsense scare me

when presented with the facts. Considering the stakes, I'd add that many are paid to debunk related posts on any number of related websites.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

52. This was fantastic. Thank you for posting it! I got to see Meria Heller

who has been a clear voice for 9/11 TRUTH for years!

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

57. HOLY CRAP

Didn't you mean to post this in the 9/11 dungeon?

[Morgana LaFey]

65. Doesn't matter where he posts it -- it'll still end up there, won't it?

Bah.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

72. Link to videos of the Chandler Forum!

www.citizensadvocate.net