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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 01:40 AM
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Why does this book on 9/11 cost a hundred bucks??!!!
Edited on Sat Dec-09-06 01:41 AM by nam78_two
:wtf:
http://www.amazon.com/History-9-11-2001-Research-Political-Economy/dp/0762313056/ref=cm_cr-mr-title/002-1979506-8850431

This is the kind of book I would like to get-wtf is up with it costing a hundred bucks?
Like I said :wtf:


Anyone on here read this?
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 04:28 AM
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1. it's an edited volume by an academic publisher
Elsevier is a Big Name in academic publishing. All of their books are in that price range. You can get a library to order it through interlibrary loan.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 06:03 PM
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4. Thats a good idea.Thanks.nt
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 08:06 AM
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2. It's very good.
Here's my review:
http://www.911blogger.com/node/2211

This volume is expensive, but worth having if you can get a copy.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 06:02 PM
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3. Thanks
Maybe I will consider springing the $$$ x(...Though if I can get it from a library that would be much better.
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 03:49 PM
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5. A reviewer explained this on Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/History-9-11-2001-Research-Political-Economy/dp/0762313056/ref=cm_cr-mr-title/002-1979506-8850431

I am a professional medical librarian with 25 years experience and must point out that Elsevier Science Press, and other publishers in the same league, including Karger, Oxford University Press, Academic Press, and Wiley Interscience, are ALL expensive because 1) the peer-reviewed research work which advances new knowledge is costly, and 2) they are not mass market publications and must depend upon cost per volume, rather than volume of sales, to survive. As original contributions they are published in durable hardbacks for libraries. When demand warrants they are published as paperbacks, and then, being somewhat less costly, they achieve wider distribution.

I agree that the pricing of this fine book is very unfortunate.
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G Hawes Donating Member (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 10:07 PM
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7. Peer reviewed research? I do not see any in this instance, do you?
That "review" looks like a plant by someone trying to hawk the book at ten times its actual value. Thst's just my opinion, of course. But where is this "peer review" referred to by the "reviewer" linked above? I have never seen any peer reviewed research on the topics touched upon in this book. Has anyone?

This just smacks of someone positing an opinion and gouging people in the process of hawking a book to make some money off of the deaths of nearly 3000 innocent people.

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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 10:17 PM
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8. Did you attend college? If you did you may recall that textbooks are very pricey and for
Edited on Mon Dec-11-06 10:18 PM by John Q. Citizen
the same reasons.

I suppose you believe a history book written on the Nazi concentration camps are just their for gouging people off the deaths of 6,000,000 people?

What a whiner. if you don't want to buy the book, don't buy it. First you whine because Loose Change is free on the web, and then you whine because a scholarly book that does fact checking and cites sources is expensive for exactly the reasons given.

Get a life....
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G Hawes Donating Member (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 01:30 AM
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15. I did, yes.
Edited on Wed Dec-13-06 01:55 AM by G Hawes
Do you not see the difference between being gouged as a member of a captive audience and the topic at hand?

I've no idea why you resorted to referring to Nazis as such references have absolutely nothing to do with my post; such reference is just plain stupid and has no place in this thread, thus I will ignore it.

If you do not see anything wrong with charging $100 plus dollars for a general issue book about the events of 9/11 and the specific issue of a book by academics in a university setting, I fear there is little I can do for you. That's not to say that I think the prices of uni books are justified, but I do at least acknowledge the difference.

Next, had you been paying attention, you'd know that it wasn't me who was "whining" about the cost of the conspiracy theorist book at issue - it was a conspiracy theorist poster here who was complaining about it. Personally, it doesn't bother me in the least. I know that very few conspiracy theorists will buy the book due to its cost (and likely its content) so it's certainly no skin off my nose.

As for your "get a life" post - now, you're just being silly. I actually have a very good life, and unlike yourself, I don't make ridiculous assumptions about others and I don't spend much time posting here. Did you really find that attempted insult necessary? Did it make you feel good about yourself somehow? I, frankly, don't see the point of it, and it looks more like projection on your part than anything else. Don't you tire of barking up the wrong tree?

All of that aside, I notice that you also did not address the main point of my post, by the way. Do let me know when you get around to it. You know, the "peer reviewed" point.


Edit to add: hey, look downthread. It appears that your fellow conspiracy theorists are not exactly lining up to buy that book you're so enamored of...maybe you should take it up with them.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 03:02 AM
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16. I don't believe it's a general issue book, and if you check the publisher
I think you will see it's in line with what they do. They are an academic publishing house.

They publish text books, academic journals, professional reference books, etc. That's their niche.

http://www.elsevier.com/wps/find/homepage.cws_home

Perhaps you should contact the person who made the claim of "peer review," the person who wrote the review at Amazon. It's easy to ridicule and to jump to assumptions, but how would you know if the material is peer reviewed or not? I don't know if it is or not, but you pretend to.

I could care less if you or anyone else buys the book or not.

However, you are the one who apparently can divine the motivations of the authors and the publishers (and in your mind, their motivations are evil) not me.

I guess it's your assumptions without any knowledge that motivated me to suggest you get a life. You seem determined to spin the book in a negative light without much information to go on. I think you are shocked that an academic publishing house would issue an academic book investigating the flimsy premises of the 9/11 commission report.

I'm not shocked. I think it's cool.
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 01:41 AM
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9. Could be.
It's just the internet. Each person must make his or her own informed opinion. Many possible agendas exist, and there is always the risk of making the wrong judgment.
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G Hawes Donating Member (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 10:01 PM
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6. Because the authors are happy to gouge people and make money off of the deaths of thousands?
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 01:52 AM
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10. After reading the 'free preview' pages at amazon I would never pay $100
for that piece of crap. It is a totally opinionated, biased, agenda ridden, non-academic, over priced scam of a book. It reads like a ranting blogger (something we can all read for free on the internet). If the first 8 pages are any indicator of what the rest of the book is like, my guess is that the $105 price is designed to actually INCREASE book sales (high prices give the illusion of scarcity).

Save your money.
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 02:03 AM
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11. Could you supply us all with a link to that location ...
so we could judge for ourselves?
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 02:08 AM
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12. it's on your link upthread n/t
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 02:17 AM
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13. Direct link
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 04:16 PM
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14. Here's Barrie Zwickers book; Towers of Deception
Edited on Tue Dec-12-06 04:17 PM by mogster
http://www.amazon.com/Towers-Deception-Media-Cover-up-11/dp/0865715734/ref=pd_sim_b_1/104-2217093-1631154

It only $16 or something
I was thinking of buying this, anyone read it? :-)
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