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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 09:13 PM
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Poll question: Is Ken Lay still dead?

Sorry, polls are turned off at Level 3.

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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 09:15 PM
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1. hahahahahaha!
no way!

He got to keep the millions he stole and is living in Paraguay.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 09:16 PM
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2. Way alive, on a Bush Family island someplace.
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 09:17 PM
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3. I firmly believe he is alive and well.
...Been thinking alot about this tonight.

I fear that Skilling may take his own life.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 09:17 PM
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4. He is. It's Generalissimo Francisco Franco I'm not so sure about. -nt
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 09:19 PM
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6. I think that Hitler and Mussolini are still alive as well....
Not to mention Chairman Mao...

:shrug:

:tinfoilhat:
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bobbie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 09:17 PM
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5. Nope, friends of the BFEE don't go to prison
They have an afterlife.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 09:25 PM
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7. Well of course he's dead!
He's dead-set on enjoying his retirement in Paraguay.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 09:26 PM
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8. Skilling wishes he were.
Too bad for him Kenny Boy figured it out first.

Paraguay's really nice this time of year.
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Nozebro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:18 PM
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31. Skilling COULD have donated his ill-gotten $, pleaded guilty, and gotten

a much lighter sentence that is more appropriate for a criminal of the white-collar persuasion. Sort of like the sweet deal Fastow got. Instead, greedy, arrogant Skilling decided to spend $50M on a legal defense which has now ended with a higher sentence than he would have gotten, AND the MSM would have rushed to his side like they did with Fastow.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 03:12 PM
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34. Does Skilling have enough money left....
to "die" in Aspen? He's not in jail - just "home confinement" so I guess he's not a flight risk...

That piece of land in Paraguay IS almost 100,000 acres - enough for a !!HUGH!! number of criminal hidey-holes.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 09:31 PM
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9. Never ever was dead.
Won't believe it unless I see a body up close and personal - and get to match the finger prints myself.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 09:37 PM
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10. He's getting better! nt
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 09:44 PM
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11. Watch for his absentee ballot.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 10:18 PM
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12. Why was this moved to the September 11 topic forum? It has nothing to do
with September 11.
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Nozebro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 10:59 PM
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13. In a sense it is, because it raises a question about an establishment figure
nt
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 11:23 PM
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14. I don't get the connection between the attacks on 9/11/2001 and Ken Lay
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benevolent dictator Donating Member (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 11:28 PM
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15. That makes two of us. nt
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 02:36 AM
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17. All conspiracy theories get banished to this dungeon
Doesn't even have to have anything to do with 9/11, though about 90% of it is about 9/11.....
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Nozebro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 09:50 AM
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18. What exactly is the conspiracy theory regarding Ken Lay?

It isn't a conspiracy to wonder if he's dead, so it doesn't make sense to move this thread to the 9/11 forum based on saying it's a conspiracy theory. As I said, it's more likely that the reason is because Ken Lay was such a prominent member of the Establishment, and polite people aren't supposed to ask hard questions about such a person as Mr. Lay aka "Kenny Boy".
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 10:00 AM
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19. eh I agree but I think thats just the policy on DU
Edited on Tue Oct-24-06 10:02 AM by nam78_two
I think if its considered a CT its banished here....
And questioning Kenny boy's death seems to be widely considered a CT here. I am personally fine with questioning it and eveything else...
But then I don't particularly care about looking like a "kook" ;).
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Nozebro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 11:32 AM
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20. Repeat: how is it a CT? So far, no one can explain what makes it a CT.

nt
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 11:50 AM
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21. Because for many people the fact
Edited on Tue Oct-24-06 11:51 AM by nam78_two
that, for it to be true that his death was faked, it would require complicity from doctors, county officials etc. and that means that it has to be a CT. There was a post mortem etc. so if it were to be a lie, that would mean large parts of the "system" are dysfunctional.
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Nozebro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 01:48 PM
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23. Isn't that what the MSM says about Bushco & 911? Same thing?

"large parts of the "system" are dysfunctional."
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 02:32 PM
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24. well yeah-but CTists are a minority even within progressive communities
Edited on Tue Oct-24-06 02:33 PM by nam78_two
:-/
CTists = people who take the questioning "that far"
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 10:44 AM
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25. Anything speculative, except election fraud & JFK, gets dumped here.
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Nozebro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 11:45 AM
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26. Why exempt election fraud? Because every1 already knows about that?
nt
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 12:23 PM
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27. DU was founded because of Fraud 2000
Though not all DUers seems to fully realize that it did involve conspiracy - a pretty 'large' conspiracy.

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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 12:43 PM
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28. Because it would send too many people to the dungeon
Not everybody needs to know about the subjects we are discussing down under, because the more people read about the conspiracies and think about it, lead to too many people becoming conspiracy theorists.

After all, there are no conspiracies. And the Election Fraud(R) is a theme which attracts lots of attention.

Take the following example:
There are some conspiracy theorists who say that the 1001 Club is a secret club for conspiracies with dictators of the third world.


Left to right: Agha Abedi (BCCI), Salem Bin Laden (Dubya's business partner), Gyanendra Dev (King of Nepal) with Prince Philip (Husband Queen Lizard II), Sadruddin Khan (would-be United Nations Secretary-General except that Russia vetoed), Louis Mortimer Bloomfield (OSS/CIA/JFK), and Baron Heinrich II "Heini" von Thyssen-Bornemisza (indeed those Thyssens).

Not pictured: Mobutu Ss Seko (Butcher of Congo), Prince Bernhard (Prince-for-hire), Henry Kissinger (No secret club is complete without Henry), David Rockefeller (Henry's wife; they are always together), Meyer Lansky (Mafia banker), Max Aitken (former buddy of Adolph Hitler), Shah of Iran, etc.

What do all these people all have in common? They are/were all big supporters of the World Wide Fund for NatureNobility

So a conspiracy theorist tried to ask WWFWTF what the 1001 Club was all about. After a mere five weeks, the following e-mail was received:

"I have been in discussions with our major support section in order to find all the information that you require about the 1001 club. There is a one off membership fee of $25,000 (US Dollars) and there are field trips and events organised mainly by WWF International. If you have further queries please come back to us..."

http://home.planet.nl/~reijd050/organisations/1001_Club...


See there are no secrets. For a mere $25,000 a year you too could join their ranks...
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Nozebro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 02:28 PM
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29. Very good points, although it IS discouraging to think that election fraud CT

are exempt from being put on this forum because of the reason you gave (it would send too many people here) -- and I agree that may well be why. Which raises the question: WHY?
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 01:47 AM
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32. I don't pretend to understand Skinner's point of view.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 11:43 PM
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16. So will it look like this:
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Nozebro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 01:46 PM
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22. He is NOT dead. He is just away (doing out of body research). But he

said to wish you a Happy Halloween.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:05 PM
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30. Lay was never really...
a legitimate life-form. Therefore - OTHER.

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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 02:23 AM
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33. I'd like to know more about "Dr Robert Kurtzman"
the coroner, all I can find is he is also a nature photographer. Hunter Thompson died in Aspen, too, but had a different coroner. Lots of "important " people go to Aspen, I wonder if that influences the coroners there. Colin Powell was in the same hospital that same day or day before or something.
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