Is Ken Lay still dead?

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Poll question: Is Ken Lay still dead?

[Tellurian]

1. hahahahahaha!

no way!

He got to keep the millions he stole and is living in Paraguay.

[BuyingThyme]

2. Way alive, on a Bush Family island someplace.

[Quakerfriend]

3. I firmly believe he is alive and well.

...Been thinking alot about this tonight.

I fear that Skilling may take his own life.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

4. He is. It's Generalissimo Francisco Franco I'm not so sure about. -nt

[greatauntoftriplets]

6. I think that Hitler and Mussolini are still alive as well....

Not to mention Chairman Mao...

:shrug:

:tinfoilhat:

[bobbie]

5. Nope, friends of the BFEE don't go to prison

They have an afterlife.

[Kurovski]

7. Well of course he's dead!

He's dead-set on enjoying his retirement in Paraguay.

[Octafish]

8. Skilling wishes he were.

Too bad for him Kenny Boy figured it out first.

Paraguay's really nice this time of year.

[Nozebro]

31. Skilling COULD have donated his ill-gotten $, pleaded guilty, and gotten

a much lighter sentence that is more appropriate for a criminal of the white-collar persuasion. Sort of like the sweet deal Fastow got. Instead, greedy, arrogant Skilling decided to spend $50M on a legal defense which has now ended with a higher sentence than he would have gotten, AND the MSM would have rushed to his side like they did with Fastow.

[dchill]

34. Does Skilling have enough money left....

to "die" in Aspen? He's not in jail - just "home confinement" so I guess he's not a flight risk...

That piece of land in Paraguay IS almost 100,000 acres - enough for a !!HUGH!! number of criminal hidey-holes.

[AZBlue]

9. Never ever was dead.

Won't believe it unless I see a body up close and personal - and get to match the finger prints myself.

[iconoclastic cat]

10. He's getting better! nt

[jwirr]

11. Watch for his absentee ballot.

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12. Why was this moved to the September 11 topic forum? It has nothing to do

with September 11.

[Nozebro]

13. In a sense it is, because it raises a question about an establishment figure

nt

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14. I don't get the connection between the attacks on 9/11/2001 and Ken Lay

[benevolent dictator]

15. That makes two of us. nt

[nam78_two]

17. All conspiracy theories get banished to this dungeon

Doesn't even have to have anything to do with 9/11, though about 90% of it is about 9/11.....

[Nozebro]

18. What exactly is the conspiracy theory regarding Ken Lay?

It isn't a conspiracy to wonder if he's dead, so it doesn't make sense to move this thread to the 9/11 forum based on saying it's a conspiracy theory. As I said, it's more likely that the reason is because Ken Lay was such a prominent member of the Establishment, and polite people aren't supposed to ask hard questions about such a person as Mr. Lay aka "Kenny Boy".

[nam78_two]

19. eh I agree but I think thats just the policy on DU

I think if its considered a CT its banished here....
And questioning Kenny boy's death seems to be widely considered a CT here. I am personally fine with questioning it and eveything else...
But then I don't particularly care about looking like a "kook" ;).

[Nozebro]

20. Repeat: how is it a CT? So far, no one can explain what makes it a CT.

nt

[nam78_two]

21. Because for many people the fact

that, for it to be true that his death was faked, it would require complicity from doctors, county officials etc. and that means that it has to be a CT. There was a post mortem etc. so if it were to be a lie, that would mean large parts of the "system" are dysfunctional.

[Nozebro]

23. Isn't that what the MSM says about Bushco & 911? Same thing?

"large parts of the "system" are dysfunctional."

[nam78_two]

24. well yeah-but CTists are a minority even within progressive communities

:-/
CTists = people who take the questioning "that far"

[Vidar]

25. Anything speculative, except election fraud & JFK, gets dumped here.

[Nozebro]

26. Why exempt election fraud? Because every1 already knows about that?

nt

[rman]

27. DU was founded because of Fraud 2000

Though not all DUers seems to fully realize that it did involve conspiracy - a pretty 'large' conspiracy.

[DrDebug]

28. Because it would send too many people to the dungeon

Not everybody needs to know about the subjects we are discussing down under, because the more people read about the conspiracies and think about it, lead to too many people becoming conspiracy theorists.

After all, there are no conspiracies. And the Election Fraud(R) is a theme which attracts lots of attention.

Take the following example:
There are some conspiracy theorists who say that the 1001 Club is a secret club for conspiracies with dictators of the third world.


Left to right: Agha Abedi (BCCI), Salem Bin Laden (Dubya's business partner), Gyanendra Dev (King of Nepal) with Prince Philip (Husband Queen Lizard II), Sadruddin Khan (would-be United Nations Secretary-General except that Russia vetoed), Louis Mortimer Bloomfield (OSS/CIA/JFK), and Baron Heinrich II "Heini" von Thyssen-Bornemisza (indeed those Thyssens).

Not pictured: Mobutu Sésé Seko (Butcher of Congo), Prince Bernhard (Prince-for-hire), Henry Kissinger (No secret club is complete without Henry), David Rockefeller (Henry's wife; they are always together), Meyer Lansky (Mafia banker), Max Aitken (former buddy of Adolph Hitler), Shah of Iran, etc.

What do all these people all have in common? They are/were all big supporters of the World Wide Fund for NatureNobility

So a conspiracy theorist tried to ask WWFWTF what the 1001 Club was all about. After a mere five weeks, the following e-mail was received:

"I have been in discussions with our major support section in order to find all the information that you require about the 1001 club. There is a one off membership fee of $25,000 (US Dollars) and there are field trips and events organised mainly by WWF International. If you have further queries please come back to us..."

http://home.planet.nl/~reijd050/organisations/1001_Club.htm

See there are no secrets. For a mere $25,000 a year you too could join their ranks...

[Nozebro]

29. Very good points, although it IS discouraging to think that election fraud CT

are exempt from being put on this forum because of the reason you gave (it would send too many people here) -- and I agree that may well be why. Which raises the question: WHY?

[Vidar]

32. I don't pretend to understand Skinner's point of view.

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16. So will it look like this:

[Nozebro]

22. He is NOT dead. He is just away (doing out of body research). But he

said to wish you a Happy Halloween.

[dchill]

30. Lay was never really...

a legitimate life-form. Therefore - OTHER.

[mirandapriestly]

33. I'd like to know more about "Dr Robert Kurtzman"

the coroner, all I can find is he is also a nature photographer. Hunter Thompson died in Aspen, too, but had a different coroner. Lots of "important " people go to Aspen, I wonder if that influences the coroners there. Colin Powell was in the same hospital that same day or day before or something.