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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:10 AM
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French consider naming streets after Arafat
Several French municipalities governed by communist and left-wing majorities are considering naming a street or a square after Yasser Arafat.

The French police intelligence service, Renseignements Generaux, reportedly warned the Ministry of Interior that such initiatives might trigger heated polemics and tensions between Jews and Muslims, especially neighborhoods ridden by ethnic violence.

In several suburban cities near Paris and Lyons governed by communist mayors, large Muslim and Jewish populations live side by side.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1100332499747&p=1078113566627


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Gee.......still MORE endless reasons why i love the french.

Can a statue be far behind?



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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:18 AM
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1. Wait, didn't they just make all the palestinian schoolgirls
take their hats off, or something? wtf?
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Flagg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 01:13 PM
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2. Muslim-practicing French schoolgirls from North African origin you mean ?
Edited on Mon Nov-15-04 01:24 PM by Flagg
Is that what you meant by "Palestinian schoolgirls" ?
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 05:03 PM
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12. OMG, yes, of course that is what I mean.
I have no idea why I said "Palestinian". :shrug:
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Flagg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 01:18 PM
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3. Shouldn't we take something out of the anti-French daily the Jerusalem
Post with a grain of salt ?


Rue Yasser Arafat.

Sounds good to me.
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QueerJustice Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 07:55 PM
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46. Its sure to drive....
down property prices....


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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 01:40 PM
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6. Yeah...well France seems to not give a rats ass ....
about the rise in anti-semitism in its own country.

French Jews Concerned after
Sharp Rise in Anti-Semitic Incidents

An incident in late December 2001 in London caught the attention of media and highlighted a problem that should be of concern to Jews: rising anti-Semitism in France, which is home to the third-largest Jewish community in the Diaspora. At a social gathering, France's ambassador to Great Britain referred to Israel as that "(expletive) little country" that, smaller than three French "departements" (provincial districts), is causing such worldwide trouble.

Between September 9, 2000 and November 20, 2001, 330 anti-Semitic incidents took place in Paris - about an incident a day.


The story yielded denials, re-interpretations and editorials - most of them dealing with the diplomatic and social brouhaha, but only marginally or not at all with the underlying issue: the concern in France, both in the Jewish community and the government, about a sharp and sustained increase in anti-Semitic incidents in the country that is home to Europe's largest Jewish population of over 600,000. The perpetrators are primarily young Arab immigrants, mostly from North Africa.

The issue was at the top of the agenda of the annual meeting on December 1 of the CRIF --the umbrella group of secular French Jewish organizations -- where Prime Minister Lionel Jospin was the guest of honor and expressed the government's determination to curb the attacks.

Between September 9, 2000 and November 20, 2001 - in just over a year - 330 anti-Semitic incidents took place in Paris and the Paris region, where half of France's Jews live. This is just about an incident a day. The acts included the throwing of stones at Jews leaving synagogues after service, against students leaving Hebrew school, arson attacks on Jewish communal buildings, insulting phone calls, anonymous mail and anti-Semitic graffiti. The dramatic rise in anti-Semitic violence began with the outbreak of the Palestinian intifada in September 2000 and has continued into the New Year. In January 2002, a Jewish school in the Paris suburb of Creteil was firebombed in an incident described by police as an anti-Semitic attack.

http://www.adl.org/international/lfe/lfe_01_2002.asp
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 02:01 PM
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7. More, you say?....you got it.
"This tenderness toward a mass murderer is repulsive and disgusting. But this is what we can we expect from a country whose Ambassador to England called Israel "that little shi..y country" or whose new Ambassador to Israel calls Sharon a "rogue." Last year, this same individual attending a dinner in Israel decided that appetite was more important than compassion. While one of the speakers described the blowing-up of his daughter in the Sbarro bombing in Jerusalem, the French representative went on enjoying his meal. After being strongly advised to pause for a moment like everybody else did, the French Ambassador declined. This brutal snub is not an exception, because in the case of a few families of French Jews killed in terrorist attacks in Israel, French officials have never presented their condolences. Obviously, France does not care much for Jewish lives lost, whether French or not. But saving their killers, YES."

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=3971

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unbelieveable


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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 02:21 PM
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8. "We loooooooove Jews being killed"
"French Jewish officials and observers fault the French government for its failure to acknowledge the problem. They charge that French authorities fail to record anti-Semitic acts (calling them vandalism instead), that they do not make serious efforts to apprehend the perpetrators, and that in the rare occasions when suspects are charged, they receive light, even laughable sentences.

Musicant notes, for instance, that men caught trying to burn down a synagogue in Paris recently were given three-month suspended sentences, and released immediately. "Burning a synagogue is not the same as burning a parked car and shouldn't be treated as such," he maintains.

"The French authorities' continued denial of the problem is preventing them from taking the necessary steps to deal with it," says Puder.

Samuels, in his report, calls the "silence of the political class in the face of these attacks... deafening."

In contrast, he notes, French politicians in the aftermath of September 11 warned "that the Republic could not accept Moslems being subjected to racism or discrimination, and that Islam on the one hand and the Islamic extremists on the other should not be tarred with the same brush."

No such unequivocal denunciation of anti-Semitism has been heard, note Jewish leaders. "It seems the French authorities refuse to condemn these anti-Semitic attacks by Moslem youth," says Musicant.

The "alarming indifference" of the political leadership, coupled with the threat of anti-Semitism has prompted "a feeling of utter abandonment within France's Jewish community," says Samuels in his report.

http://www.cdn-friends-icej.ca/antiholo/french.html

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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 07:22 PM
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45. Vomit
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QueerJustice Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 07:58 PM
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47. and when Sharon...
points out the obvious and encourages French Jews to make aliyah....they complain of foul play....go figure...

:silly:
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JewishAmerican Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 04:51 PM
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11. lol
French......they are naming the streets after terrorists....that's sick!
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 05:30 PM
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13. so you'll be writing to Israeli MK's
and demanding the closure/renaming of:

Menachem Begin Street
The Palmach Museum of History
The Haganah Museum
Memorial to David Raziel
Moshe Dayan Center

etc etc etc

Expecting don to start this campaign any minute now
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 05:58 PM
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14. Don't forget...
...Rabbi Kahane Park.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 03:59 PM
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18. DOH...well that's the end of this "outrage"
next? :)
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cantwealljustgetalong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 04:15 PM
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21. once one resigns oneself to the logic that...
Paris is Ramallah...
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cantwealljustgetalong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 04:08 PM
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20. are any of those in France?...
n/t
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 04:29 PM
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22. Oh that's right
This is a Francophobes thread...sorry we all butted in.

Carry on with your hatred...
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 04:33 PM
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23. Thanks....we appreciate that.
But I promise when the time is right for a Chirac suck-up,

you'll be the first to know.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 04:47 PM
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24. Not for me
Chirac is a doofus too...but that doesn't mean the Francophobes are cool to hang with.Let me know when the LGF suck up comes along though.I'm sure to see you there!

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cantwealljustgetalong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 11:59 PM
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36. Chirac may very well be a doofus...
but, that does not tell us if Chirac was the tiger and Arafat the hyena, or was it the other way around?...

and does France's complicity in the U.N. oil-for-food-for-$21B-for-weapons-for-Saddam-scam or the Ivory Coast melt down upgrade Chirac from doofus to Hitler?...I mean, Chirac = Doofus just doesn't inspire me...

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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:18 AM
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38. Well nothing down here inspires me
You'll get used to it.
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cantwealljustgetalong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 11:17 AM
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40. I got used to it a long while ago...
now it's just amusing...
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 05:03 AM
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39. Chirac never met a dirtball he didn't love.
whether playing footsie with saddam, performing fellatio on arafat at every turn or using the UN to suck-up to every thug.

What a drain on the gene pool.
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 05:29 PM
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25. sorry I didn't realise it was only outrageous
Edited on Tue Nov-16-04 05:32 PM by Djinn
because it was France doing it - I thought the problem was that you shouldn't glorify terrorists - if I had realised this was simply a bash France thread and that although this PROVES France "hates Jews" the abundance of terrorist memorials/museums and parks in Israel does NOT demonstrate any "hatred" of Arabs, even though their murderers are being glofied, I wouldn't have bothered - btw they'd LOVE this thread over at freepyland.

I'm wondering if ANY of the mock outraged here have ever seen a mirror
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cantwealljustgetalong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 06:48 PM
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26. blah blah blah, so, was that a yes or a no?...
sounds like a no...
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:03 PM
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29. blah blah blah
Edited on Tue Nov-16-04 08:05 PM by Djinn
so are you only outraged when France does it? sounds like a yes.

No those places are in Israel - that being the point, guess it went over you head

Know the meaning of hypocrisy?
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cantwealljustgetalong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 09:15 PM
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31. I know how to spell hypocrisy...
F-R-A-N-C-E
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 09:17 PM
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32. OK now I know you're joking
you have no problem with the MANY MANY tributes to dead terrorists in Israel (and elsewhere all throughout the world) but think the French are the very definition of hypocrisy - I can only assume that you're taking the piss.
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cantwealljustgetalong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 09:29 PM
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33. would I kid such a serious person as you...
Edited on Tue Nov-16-04 09:30 PM by cantwealljustgetalon


about such a serious subject like France?...
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 09:42 PM
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34. do you need a cup of a tea a bex and a lie down?
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QueerJustice Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:03 PM
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50. obviously your using...
the definition of ``terrorist`` very loosly.....
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QueerJustice Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:02 PM
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49. Yep Yep..
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 11:17 PM
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35. Know the meaning of hypocrisy?
Apparently,judging from the response below,no they dont.

But they sure do love to engage in it!
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:03 AM
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37. I'd get annoyed if it wasn't so funny
Half the streets in Australia are named after people who stole land and slaughtered indigenous people, many streets/buildings in US are named after similar "conquerors" not to mention some names of sports teams of dubious taste - redskins anyone?

If you drew up 2 lists of people "glorified" in this way worldwide, one for generally acknowledged good or peace making deeds (MLK for example) and one for the warmongers, looters and rapists I know which one would need more paper.

It's just history when it happens "to" everyone else - it's antisemitism (or self hatred of course in my case) when it happens to Israelis...nothing new to see here carry on.
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cantwealljustgetalong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 11:21 AM
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41. well, I am glad...
that you're not annoyed...
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:41 AM
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42. paging Dr Freud
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 07:36 PM
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27. I/P is where Lynne Cheney came to practice her faux outrage
She wanted to learn from the masters.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 07:38 PM
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28. I/P is where Lynne Cheney came to practice her faux outrage
She wanted to learn from the masters.
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QueerJustice Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:00 PM
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48. Why....??
They are ALL JEWISH heros....

Guess you think a terrorist like Arafat is a French hero?
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 08:10 PM
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15. yea, so what.
"French consider naming streets after Arafat"

Can a statue be far behind?

probably being made right now ;)
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 11:03 PM
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16. "Yeah, I know that place. It's at the corner of
Arafat Avenue and Mumia Drive."
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:36 PM
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30. Aren't those streets just North of
Ira Einhorn Boulevard.
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 01:15 AM
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17. You know...
I wouldn't be surprised if some of those pushing for this thought about folks like you while doing it...

I believe there was a similar experiment in grade school involving a frog and electricity...
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 04:00 PM
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19. Americans consider naming everything after Reagan
Gee.......still MORE endless reasons why i love the Americans.

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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 06:33 PM
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51. OMG !!
WOW.

"still MORE endless reasons why i love the Americans."

I assume thats sarcasm, n'est pas??

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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:12 AM
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43. I want to live on Idi Amin Blvd
But that's just me.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:01 PM
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44. Well, thats in North Paris.....
near the corner of Yassin and Rantisi...

kind of a dead end..if you get my drift. lol
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TheKingfish Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:22 PM
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52. What are you going to do about
The street in Fallujah renamed "Sheikh Ahmed Yassin Street".
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