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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 09:45 AM
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Stage six
According to people who study such things, there are eight stages of genocide: Classification, Symbolization, Dehumanization, Organization, Polarization, Preparation, Extermination and Denial. After a decade of Arafatian rule, a critical mass of Palestinians hover somewhere between stages six and seven.

This development, obvious to most Israelis, is rarely noticed by outside observers. For one thing, a country of Israel's military capacities hardly seems vulnerable to extermination. For another, Israel is viewed as being at least as much an aggressor - both historically and currently - as it is a current and potential victim. For a third, neither Palestinian intentions nor actions, even of the most extreme sort, are considered genocidal. Instead, Palestinians are seen to be fighting for a state of their own, not the elimination of Israel or the Jews within it. As for suicide bombings, they are viewed as a foul offshoot of a legitimate national struggle, not an expression of that struggle's fundamental purpose.

One can only pray the outside observers are right: that Israelis really are paranoid when it comes to understanding Palestinian designs; that the dehumanizing caricatures of Jews in the Palestinian press and in their textbooks, and the frequent calls to murder by their religious and secular leadership, are nothing but rhetoric and hyperbole typical of a people at war.

Then again, most students of genocide would agree that when prominent or popular leaders of one nation call repeatedly and openly for the extinction of another nation, it's best to take them at their word. The stages of genocide are not only logical but sequential: If classification, symbolization, dehumanization, organization, polarization, and preparation can be clearly discerned, it's best to get ready for extermination and denial.

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more fascinating reading here

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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 09:50 AM
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1. For WHOM is it "fascinating reading"...?
:shrug:
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:00 AM
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2. you mean israel is getting ready to commit GENOCIDE against palistinians?
i thought things looked bad for the palestinians but i didn't realize how bad, thanks for the warning :hi:

peace
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:06 AM
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3. if i lived in the west bank
i too would get ready to be exterminated and do everything possible to keep my family alive,i think that is the right of anyone. although rocks are no match against the killing machine of the idf, me and my family would still fight to keep our freedom and dignity.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:24 AM
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4. Self-parody is always the best.
You have to wonder where all those "students of genocide" are,
is there a University level studies program?
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:30 AM
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5. I was hoping you were around....
Edited on Sat Apr-17-04 10:34 AM by drdon326


Tell me bemildred...are "Israelis really paranoid when it comes to understanding Palestinian designs; that the dehumanizing caricatures of Jews in the Palestinian press and in their textbooks, and the frequent calls to murder by their religious and secular leadership" and "are nothing but rhetoric and hyperbole typical of a people at war"??

edit for clarity.

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:56 AM
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6. I have to go for a walk.
I'll be back later.
I assume you are quoting someone there. Who might it be?

In any case it's a stupid statement, the Palestinians are a
diverse group of people, and the attribution of "designs" to
them is idiotic on it's face. Individuals, and to a lesser
degree organized groups, have "designs", "the Palestinians" are
neither.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 11:03 AM
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7. I'll be waiting....patiently.
The quote is painfully obvious as it is in the article...
which I'm sure you read. (you DID read it,didnt you?)

Perhaps you could DIRECTLY respond to my question to you?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 01:38 PM
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8. I don't do Jpost because I am not willing to "register" there.
I get enough SPAM as it is. I thought it might be from the
article, but was not sure, hence the question.

My failure to respond to the question DIRECTLY was deliberate.
As I pointed out, the question is founded on stupid premises,
and any DIRECT response would have to share the fatuousness of
those premises.
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