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BowlingForPalestine Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 07:39 PM
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Rachel Corrie was killed by Israel's illegal wall
Rachel Corrie was killed by Israel's illegal wall

By Steve Niva
Special to The Times


A year has passed since Rachel Corrie, a 23-year-old American peace activist from Olympia, was killed by an Israeli army bulldozer while nonviolently trying to prevent the demolition of a Palestinian house in the city of Rafah in the Gaza Strip.

The Israeli government has refused to release its entire June 2003 military police investigation report to the United States but continues to claim that her death was simply an "unfortunate accident," despite the testimony of six eyewitnesses who claim that Corrie, with her bright orange jacket, was clearly visible to the bulldozer drivers, and that the bulldozer lifted her up and drove over her repeatedly with its plow down.

It is no wonder that the Corrie family is urging Congress to pass House Concurrent Resolution 111, which calls upon the "United States government to undertake a full, fair, and expeditious investigation into the death of Rachel Corrie."

Yet, while questions remain about the details of her death, there should be no question about its ultimate cause. Corrie was killed by Israel's wall.

Most Palestinian homes in Rafah, including the one Corrie was killed defending, are being demolished daily by Israeli bulldozers to make way for a massive, 6-meter-high, steel wall Israel is building along the Egyptian border with Rafah.

...snip...

Corrie's death reminds us of the need to unite and demand an immediate end to violence against all citizens, whether Israeli, Palestinian or, in this case, American.



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Rachel Corrie - Murdered by IDF bulldozer
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 07:44 PM
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1. The Peace Fence RAWWWWWWWWWWKSS!!!!!!!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:07 PM
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 07:46 PM
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2. bulldozing homes is a poor tactic against terrorist groups
in fact I think its basically use less
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a_random_joel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 07:53 PM
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4. Are suicide bombs in civilian areas a better tactic?
Just asking.
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:04 PM
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5. certainly not, or any other kinds of bombs
in civilian areas....
like one droped from F-16s or Attack helicopters


is there anyone one on DU in favor of suicide bombers ?

if there is I have not seen but one (they were T.S.s)

I do not see that tactic as a valid form of Resistance.
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a_random_joel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:14 PM
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10. Unfortunately, we disagree here.
One does not lure terrorists from the depths of the civilian population with calls of "Here Kitty, Kitty."

You have a better solution?
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:24 PM
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12. oh, I agree its difficult, but I say it can be done
we can lure terrorists from the depths of the civilian population
and capture them alive.

very difficult, but I think it would be more effective.
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a_random_joel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:25 PM
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14. And how do you propose this be done?
I am sure there are many, many people interested in hearing of such a logistically perfect solution.
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:51 PM
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20. And how do I propose this be done ?
well, better Intelligence gathering
.... more undercover ops and infiltrators

I don't claim it to be a perfect solution, just more effective.
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BowlingForPalestine Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 09:03 PM
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21. For starters...
Edited on Tue Mar-16-04 09:03 PM by BowlingForPalestine
The IDF could possibly stop murdering innocent people. I think that's a dandy start.

The rest will follow....

:shrug:
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a_random_joel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 11:46 AM
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34. Then I am sure you will agree that Hamas, et al. can also stop...
murdering innocent people.

What's good for the goose, and all that jazz...
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Evil_Dewers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:53 AM
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31. Yes.
Edited on Wed Mar-17-04 09:56 AM by Evil_Dewers
They seem to have crippled the Israeli tourism industry.

I am kidding of course.
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a_random_joel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 07:52 PM
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3. I am saddened by this loss, I am also saddened by the countless
Edited on Tue Mar-16-04 08:11 PM by a_random_joel
Innocent Israeli civilians slaughtered at the hands of Palestinian bombers.

Both sides need to be held accountable. Until then, there will be no peace.
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:05 PM
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6. Both sides need to be held accountable.
we can agree on that.
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BowlingForPalestine Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:09 PM
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8. Absolutely..
and we can start by withholding aid to Israel. That way they will be forced to end the occupation.

Then the two sides can negotiate as equals.

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a_random_joel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:11 PM
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9. It's a wee bit trickier than that my friend.
I don't want to get into an all out flame war here, I've done that enough. But accountability on both sides requires a lot more than just the withdrawal of US funds from Israel.
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BowlingForPalestine Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:21 PM
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11. Without the withdrawal of US funds from Israel...
Israel has no motive to quit her barbaric and ruthless occupation.

It must start with the cessation of all aid to Israel until she can start acting like a responsible nation.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:25 PM
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13. i agree- money talks
when ever there is an effort to cut funds the shit hits the fan,meanwhile if my state wants a billion it`s tough shit,isn`t it?
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a_random_joel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:28 PM
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15. You are suggesting withdrawal of funds as a punishment.
What punishment do you offer for the Arab countries that incited the occupation and frequent attacks on Israel in years past?

What punishment do you offer for the PA in response to their inability to "responsibly" control the bombers emanating from within their midst?

Clearly I said accountability was to be reserved for both sides.

I am only seeing a one sided approach here. Typical.
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BowlingForPalestine Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:33 PM
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16. LOL....
Yeah...the call for cutting off aid to one of the strongest nations on earth who just happens to be brutally occupying and oppressing another people is one sided.

Uhhhhh...yeah...

whatever dude.
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BowlingForPalestine Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:35 PM
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17. Yeah..we can see how one sided shit gets.
Just ask governor Dean.

:eyes:
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a_random_joel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 11:44 AM
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33. You never answered the questions.
Whatever, indeed.

That is a healthy approach to reasoned conflict resolution.

Both sides have blood on their hands. Wake up.
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Evil_Dewers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:54 AM
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32. There are no innocents.
Edited on Wed Mar-17-04 09:57 AM by Evil_Dewers
Both sides have blood on their hands.
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BowlingForPalestine Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:45 PM
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18. Petition to Stop US Military Aid to Israel (see post)
PLEASE SIGN AND CIRCULATE
The murder of Rachel Corrie represents just one tragedy in the ongoing brutal, illegal occupation of the Palestinian Territories. Please show your support for an end to the Occupation and the beginning of justice and peace: Sign the Petition to STOP US MILITARY AID TO ISRAEL. Signed by over 8000 so far, including Noam Chomsky, Rashid Khalidi, and Howard Zinn, and endorsed by many respected activist groups including The International Solidarity Movement, Gush Shalom, and Jews Against the Occupation.
See also:
www.stop-us-military-aid-to-israel.net/petition

visit here: http://boston.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/13051
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PoundSiO2 Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 09:06 PM
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22. After what Israel had to deal with when they were surrounded and nearly
run into the sea I can only send monet and help convince my congress to support them. Also, there is no proof Corrie was murdered and it's being used to bash Israel and her right to exist.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 09:42 PM
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PoundSiO2 Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 10:16 PM
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26. Nothing funny at all about the murder of innocents
I predict Israel will stand tall against those that wish her destroyed.
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BowlingForPalestine Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 10:29 PM
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27. Do you want a cracker?
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PoundSiO2 Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 10:46 PM
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28. Do you have a cracker to spare?
I fear it may leave you one short. Best you keep it.
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BowlingForPalestine Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 11:39 PM
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29. Naw...I got plenty. Here ya go.
Edited on Tue Mar-16-04 11:40 PM by BowlingForPalestine
:silly:
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 03:26 PM
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36. thanks for the link
I am one of those who ventured here with trepidation after seeing the Rachel Corrie anniversry mentioned in GD.

This is a depressing forum to read. So much anger and hatred.

:(
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 09:59 PM
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24. Saying Corrie was killed by Israel's illegal wall is akin to saying
that abortion doctors murdered by the Army of God were killed by abortions.
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BowlingForPalestine Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 10:08 PM
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25. Your opinion. Not mine.
Edited on Tue Mar-16-04 10:09 PM by BowlingForPalestine
Made no sense but whatever floats your boat.

So you don't think that Rachel was killed while protecting a Palestinian doctor's home which just happens to be in the way of this huge gigantic apartheid style wall has anything to do with the wall itself?

Are you just playing coy?

LOL.....

:shrug:
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BowlingForPalestine Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:48 AM
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30. Kick...
:kick:
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 07:52 AM
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35. thanks Bowling
real good article here.
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