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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 01:58 AM Original message |
HRW Demands Criminal Investigation Into Death of 20 y.o Palestinian Patient Denied Permit By Israel |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
1. cruelty has no bounds. n/t |
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jimmie (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
2. I guess HRW ... |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 08:52 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. "Look, here are millions of people I didn't kill; how dare you blame me for the one I did". |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 09:23 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Israel does not rule over Gaza |
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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 11:25 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Very similar to saying prisons are run by the prisoners |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. There is no requirement for a sovereign nation to open its borders to anyone |
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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 12:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. If adherence to law is your concern, note that Isreal is violating |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. It is not. I said nothing about international law |
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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 12:50 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. "It's all the Palestinians own fault that the Israelis are killing them |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Clearly you are since that is not what I have said |
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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 01:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. Point of fact: Hamas didn't take over at the point of a bayonet, it won a fair election |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 02:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Clearly not true - where were you in June of 2007? |
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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 02:17 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Under their system of government the majority gets to form a government. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 02:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. What happened in Gaza in June of 2007? |
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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 03:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. There was a power struggle and the legally elected party won. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 06:18 PM Response to Reply #29 |
40. If I had not read your other posts, I would think that comment was satire |
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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 07:50 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Oh, how I wish it were so. |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 12:45 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. International Law is worthless WRT Israel when it demands Israel cannot protect its citizens. |
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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 01:16 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. I'm sure international law is inconvenient for Israel and it's defenders |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 03:51 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. It is when it leads to more death and bloodshed. n/t |
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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 04:01 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. And violating international law hasn't lead to more death and bloodshed? Oh, I get it, |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 04:03 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Before the "illegal" border fence/wall, thousands of deaths. Afterwards, not so much. Get it? |
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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:22 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Untrue. Before the illegal wall, some Israeli deaths and lots of Palestinian |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 06:34 AM Response to Reply #36 |
51. Taking down the wall is a pro-war position that will lead to far more death. n/t |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Not at all - the prison guards (and administration) make and enforce the rules in prisons |
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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 01:09 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. Wrong. Gaza is surrouded by Israeli tanks, planes and ships. Gaza is denied |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 08:38 AM Response to Reply #17 |
56. Would you prefer Hamas does whatever it wants, and whatever happens, oh well? n/t |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 08:02 AM Response to Reply #4 |
54. Gaza is not (yet) a separate nation to the West Bank, thankfully. |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 08:37 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Ridiculous post. |
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jimmie (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
7. Of course they could have taken him to Egypt |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 12:33 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. It not fair to point out that the Arab nations have always treated the Palestinians |
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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 01:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Again, see above. Apparently the Zionist position is that it's ok to force |
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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 01:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Jimmie, why do you think that is? |
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jimmie (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 01:33 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. No thank you. |
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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 02:14 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Well, the hospital in Egypt was ten times farther away, but that doesn't matter |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 01:51 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Approximately 90 percent of what is written here is not true |
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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 02:12 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Weeping Jebus, simple gainsaying doesn't make the truth go away. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 02:27 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. I couldn't agree more |
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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 03:58 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Why shouldn't they be allowed to return to their homes as per their |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 04:04 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Descendants of refugees are not refugees, but citizens of the states they were born into. |
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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:15 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. This is contrary to Israeli law. |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:21 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. There are no other descendents of refugees in the world like Palestinians. |
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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Wow. Maybe that's why I'm advocating the Palestinian's right of return. |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:56 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. So you agree descendants of Palestinian refugees should not be considered refugees themselves? |
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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 07:46 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. I think that if Jews who have been absent from Israel for 500 generations |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 07:47 AM Response to Reply #42 |
53. Sure, when there's peace between the 2 nations and democracy/rights are guaranteed.... |
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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 05:45 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Apparently Israeli law disagrees with you |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 06:29 PM Response to Reply #30 |
41. Why shouldn't they be granted citizenship in the countries they have been living in for 60 years? |
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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 08:00 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Again, why should they have to give their legal homes to Israelis? If I stold |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 08:14 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. If someone's grandfather stole my grandfather's home 60 +years ago... |
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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 08:47 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Really. Then why have European Jews moved en masse to Israel |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 11:14 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. What on earth are you talking about? |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 10:39 PM Response to Reply #46 |
58. Do you support the restoration of goods stolen in the Holocaust? N.T. |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 06:36 AM Response to Reply #44 |
52. So you don't care that Lebanon treats their Palestinians like complete shit? |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 02:47 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. As does Eqypt, Syria, and Jordan. Then there are those who use Palestinians as proxies |
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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 08:00 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Again, why should they have to give their legal homes to Israelis? If I stold |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 09:01 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. This thread was posted about the lack of med.care for one... |
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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 09:09 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. What valid questions have I not answered? |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 08:06 AM Response to Reply #49 |
59. Budd-Chiari Syndrome is a rare liver disease. At the stage this young man had progressed... |
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