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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 01:31 AM
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Israel complains to UN over rocket fire
WASHINGTON- Israel's Ambassador to the United Nations Meron Reuven filed an official complaint on Saturday with United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon following the rocket attacks from the Gaza Strip since Thursday.

In a letter to the secretary-general, Reuven wrote that the attack included phosphorus shells, and stressed that Israel will continue to practice its right for self defense while using all necessary means to protect its citizens.

Reuven warned that the recent escalation was endangering the stability in the region, and that the attacks proved Hamas and other terrorist organizations were continuing to arm.

Reuven stressed that the latest incidents were in violation of international law, and represent the security threat Israel is facing on a daily basis.

Two Grad rockets and seven mortar shells have been fired toward the western Negev and Gaza vicinity communities since Thursday. No injuries or damage were recorded in any of the incidents.

In the past year, Israel has filed complains to the United Nations following every rocket fire from the Gaza Strip or southern Lebanon.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3987132,00.html





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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 01:51 AM
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1. The phosphorus was purely for illumination purposes, guys! n/t
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 02:01 AM
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2. Yeah, the hypocrisy is staggering n/t
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 04:46 AM
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4. Are the rocket attacks not a violation of international law?
I would think reporting them to the UN would be exactly the course of action Israel ought to take in this scenario. No?
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 09:54 AM
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6. Are extra-judicial assasinations a violation of international law?
I am just wondering - considering these attacks were a response to targetted attacks to leaders of an Islamic terrorist group.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 11:09 AM
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7. Is kidnapping a BBC reporter a violation of international law?
By what mechanism was the international community making sure the Army of Islam leadership was being brought to justice?

But of course, we could do this back and forth all day.

My question is - did Israel not do the right thing by reporting the violation to the UN?
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 12:51 PM
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8. Army of Islam are disgusting
Pathetic, anti-social, radical, criminal thugs. I want to be clear that I am not suggesting otherwise. Of course kidnapping is a violation. Help me to understand - because I trully do not understand how it is that we, as a society, have courts, laws, police to enforce societal laws - laws to punish those who seek to inflict harm on another. We have courts to adjudicate those laws. Why is that broad system of justice not adequate when it comes to a group like this?

You are correct - we could go back and forth - and I did not mean to derail....

In answer to your question - Israel did the right thing by reporting the violation to the UN - yes.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 05:38 PM
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9. International law is not always applied/enforced internationally
Edited on Sat Nov-20-10 05:38 PM by oberliner
What good are laws that are only sometimes enforced/enforceable?
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 12:48 AM
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10. Isn't my puppy cute?


...Oh! Sorry, I thought we were randomly changing topics. But really. Cute li'l fucker, huh?
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 01:57 AM
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11. why yes in fact he is very cute
is he a Bichon Frise?
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 01:58 AM
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12. I think so!
...I adopted him from google :rofl:
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 03:15 PM
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15. Your pet hamster is very cute indeed.
:)
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 02:25 AM
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23. Nooooooo!
Goddam, I hate this shit!
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 08:12 AM
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25. You hate puppies?
Odd that.
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 01:19 AM
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26. You missed factual context and the associated meaning completely. Not odd, that. (nt)
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 12:14 PM
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27. What factual context and associated meaning?
It is not at all clear what the "hate" is in reference to.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 06:15 AM
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24. The topic is Israel reporting rocket fire to the UN
That is exactly what my post speaks to.

Not sure where you see a change in topic from the OP, other than possibly your first comment.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 02:55 AM
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3. Ah this -again
my guess is that most, if not all shells from Gaza contain phosphorus which is found in common things such as baking powder, detergent, fertilizer, and animal feed. Phosphorus is a common chemical and not all or even most is what is known as WP which requires special handling and should not be confused or conflated as is attempting to be done here IMO, with other more common and easily available forms of phosphorous
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 04:47 AM
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5. What Israel reported to the UN is exactly what the peace camp should want...
Edited on Sat Nov-20-10 04:59 AM by shira
The idea is that the UN will pressure Hamas to stop before Israel retaliates and makes things worse (mostly for Hamas' Palestinian pawns).

Of course, the UN will do nothing of the sort and will only start speaking up once Israel retaliates, blaming Israel. Exactly what warmongers and sanctimonious bigots desire.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 01:41 PM
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13. Israel complaining to the UN? That's kind of rich.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 01:43 PM
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14. Is that not the right thing to do in this case?
Not sure why you wouldn't support such an action.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 03:17 PM
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16. It's just that I never had the sense that they placed the UN or its rulings
in very high regard.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 03:38 PM
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17. They went to great pains to ensure the UN certification of their withdrawal from Lebanon
In fact, I would say Israel works with the UN as much as if not more than any other country between UNIFIL and UNWRA.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 03:39 PM
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18. Sure it is; so is adhering to and respecting UN resolutions regarding Israel and the conflict
Which Israel absolutely refuses to do in all cases.

What you've got here is a case where a teenager absolutely refuses to abide by the rules of the house, keeps getting in fights, has failing grades, is on probation, and still thinks he can demand an allowance.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 11:45 AM
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19. Not true
Israel does not absolutely refuse to respect UN resolutions in all cases. That is a gross misstatement.
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 01:32 PM
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20. "There are laws I haven't broken" is not a defence accepted in most courts... N.T.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 05:03 PM
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21. You've broken a law that your country does not recognize as valid
That's also not usually going to fly.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 06:11 PM
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22. Take the "law" about the separation barrier. If Israel abided by such a law...
...more civilians on both sides would be killed.

More Palestinians than Israelis, probably.

Same for overflights.

So do you really wish Israel kept those, regardless of the toll it would take on the civilian population?

:shrug:
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