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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 08:53 AM Original message |
Israel over-reaches |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
1. another crappy article......same BS rehashed over and over |
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Vegasaurus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 09:12 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I think you have that about right, Shira |
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wellst0nev0ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 09:54 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Israel Broke The Ceasefire First |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 09:57 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Both sides violated the so-called cease-fire throughout the six month period |
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wellst0nev0ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 10:01 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Nope, Israel Broke It First. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 10:17 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. If you are asserting that as a fact can you support it with evidence? |
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wellst0nev0ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 11:37 AM Response to Reply #15 |
30. Even Your Article Says Israel Shot First. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 02:27 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. My argument is that there wasn't really a cease fire but rather a "period of calm" |
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wellst0nev0ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. Written Agreement Or Not, Different Ideas Or Not, Israel Struck First |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 04:45 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. That is just not accurate - Israel did not strike first. |
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wellst0nev0ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. Islamic Jihad Claimed Responsibility For That Attack |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 09:28 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Still a violation of the cease fire agreement |
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GSPowner (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #11 |
22. LOL you're funny.... |
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razors edge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 10:30 AM Response to Reply #9 |
20. November 5th "provoked" it, |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Hamas announced on December 19th that it would not renew the cease fire |
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razors edge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 11:16 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Israel said the tunnel was to be used |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 11:25 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. The "they" in that sentence was in reference to Israel not PBS |
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razors edge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 11:39 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Yes the both violated the cease fire |
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GSPowner (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 10:48 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. The blockade is a join one with Egypt so should they also be blamed? |
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razors edge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Absolutely. |
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Fozzledick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
36. Use of Big Lie technique noted |
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wellst0nev0ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #36 |
48. Show Me The Proof That Hamas Struck First After June |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 09:37 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Huh? |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 09:54 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Back to UN Partition Lines? |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 10:10 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Why does Israel have a right to more than that? |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 10:22 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. The current State of Israel is recognized by the United Nations |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 12:12 PM Response to Reply #17 |
35. The Israel recognized by the UN |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. What are you talking about? |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 03:55 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. I thought you meant the post 1967 war border |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Ok, sorry about the misunderstanding |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
3. Suicide bombings predate Qassam attacks |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 09:29 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Violent military occupation predates Qassams by 35 years and suicide attacks by 28 years. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 09:52 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Terror attacks by Palestinian Arabs against Jews predate the occupation by 35 years |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 10:06 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. You are better than that Oberliner. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 10:15 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Nobody deserved any of the horrible things that happened in the 1940s |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 10:28 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. not all the palestinians were driven out |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 11:56 AM Response to Reply #19 |
32. Deleted message |
TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 10:22 AM Response to Reply #6 |
16. What about other terror attacks? |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 10:26 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. King David Hotel bombing was against the British colonial occupiers |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #18 |
34. So what? It's still terror nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #34 |
46. The difference is Menachem Begin was involved |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 06:41 PM Response to Reply #46 |
56. The Military Headquarters Of An Occupying Power, Ma'am |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 09:15 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. And how was Deir Yassin a military target? Or the scores of incidents in Haifa? Or Al Aqsa? |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 09:47 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Since, Sir, You Declare At the Outset Your Wish To Dispense With Actual Military Considerations |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 06:12 AM Response to Reply #60 |
64. No need to respond then, is there? |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 06:12 PM Response to Reply #34 |
51. It was a military target |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 09:17 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. Like Deir Yassin? Or the Haifa attacks in the 30s? |
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wellst0nev0ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 09:58 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. No Suicide Bombings in 1999 and 2000 |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
24. Sometimes I think only a new generation will resolve this. Here's a statement |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 11:01 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Yep, it will take generational change, and real political leadership. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 11:27 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Or, thinking outside the box like these people. They're just down the road |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. More likely to get less killing that way, for sure. nt |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. You are more optimistic than I sir |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Me? Optimistic? |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Damn, Sir... |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 03:30 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Ah sir the |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Well, you might be right, about our relative gloominess. |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #24 |
49. What's scary is to look at the young generation on the Palestinian side. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 06:15 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. All Of Which, Ma'am, Could Have Been Avoided By Competent Political Leadership |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Too bad Bush and his Israeli buddies shot that down, huh? |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. That Fellow Came Rather Kate To the Party, Ma'am |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 10:57 PM Response to Reply #54 |
61. Can you make your point in plain English please? |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 11:16 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. No One Has Overturned An Election, Ma'am |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 09:06 AM Response to Reply #62 |
65. They sure tried, Magistrate. They have made it nearly impossible for the winners of the election |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 11:41 PM Response to Reply #49 |
63. Yes. It's unfortunate that Bush was in office when Hamas was elected. |
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