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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 05:26 PM
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Authoritarian gun law pre-emption fine bills advance (FL)
Edited on Tue Mar-22-11 05:27 PM by jpak
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/state/gun-law-pre-emption-fine-bills-advance-1338255.html

TALLAHASSEE — A bill backed by the National Rifle Association that strengthens financial penalties against cities and counties for enacting tougher gun laws than the state requires gained momentum on Monday.

Committees in both the Senate and House voted to approve the bill, which takes an existing law that prevents local governments from pre-empting the state's gun laws and adds financial penalties between $5,000 and $100,000. The financial penalty was reduced from the originally proposed $5 million through an amendment to both chambers' version of the bill.

The proposal (SB 402, HB 45) was not without critics, who blasted the bill for removing the ability of local governments to police the firing of guns. "This means it will now be legal to discharge firearms in every city in Florida and every residential neighborhood and county," said Rick Dillon, who represents the Berkeley Forest subdivision in Gulf Breeze, Fla. Dillon was joined by the builder of Berkeley Forest in opposition to the bill.

"You think this sounds crazy?" Dillon told Senate lawmakers. "It happened in our residential neighborhood and it took two years to stop because there was no state law. Dozens of bullets were found…it was like living in a war zone."

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NewMoonTherian Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 05:39 PM
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1. "...it was like living in a war zone."
except for the distinct lack of injuries and deaths. I find bullets and casings regularly, and I hear gunshots quite frequently. Thusfar I haven't suffered any form of distress as a result.

Also, no law that limits the power of a government entity should ever be called "authoritarian". Preemption prevents authoritarianism.
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 06:49 PM
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6. Got on a plane in Palm Beach and got off in Viet Nam ..... NT
Edited on Tue Mar-22-11 06:51 PM by RSillsbee
Lest any one think I'm claiming experience that isn't mine the title is a take on a Charlie Daniels song
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virginia mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 05:44 PM
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2. So, every little town and county, can have a patchwork
Of dissimilar laws, just to TRAP people?

Glad to see the real "authoritarians" are having their "rear ends" kicked all over the electoral map...

and I enjoy, helping to do it.

YUP

YUP
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 06:05 PM
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3. More disingenuous thread titles from you
yup yup
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 06:07 PM
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4. Have you really come to expect anything less
NOPE

NOPE

NOPE
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 06:44 PM
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5. They're not the first prohi at DU to change an 'inconvenient' title:
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20100318/NEWS10/3180350/Democrats-resurrect-concealed-weapons-measure

"Democrats resurrect concealed weapons measure"

was reported as having the title:

"Police organizations and Iowans oppose concealed carry in Iowa", here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=118&topic_id=302907#303426
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 07:18 PM
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7. Good idea, limits should be set on how local governments can violate the constitution
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 09:27 PM
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8. Poor poor municipalities..
They should be free to be as authoritarian as they like! No gays over here, no african americans over there, no jewish people over there..

:sarcasm:
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VoteProgressive Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 09:33 PM
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9. Why only apply this to gun laws? Weird to me! nt
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