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beevul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 10:43 PM
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ATF agent Vincent A Cefalu posts...
ATF agent Vincent A Cefalu posts this:


We (the field) have formally, officially and sometimes unofficially attempted to encourage Director Melson, DD Hoover and their predecessors to restore the integrity of the agency. We have asked them to demand leadership from our executives, and to control and reign in Chief Counsels Office and corrupt and unethical practices. So here we are. Mr. Melson can no longer pretend to be in charge or have ANY say so in our Agency's future. Mr. Traver sits silent as if he has NO IDEA any of this is going on. So what happens? EXACTLY what is supposed to happen, Congressional oversight.

1. Fact; Mr. Melson chose not or was told not to respond to a U.S. Senator with DIRECT impact on our agencys future.

2. Fact; The allegation Sen. Grassley references is not false and Mr. Melson and Newell have publicly admitted it in their press conference. We did know, we didnt "interdict or prevent this from happening. We NEVER let guns walk. That has been our mantra since we became a Bureau.

3. Fact; ATF DIDNT make every effort to "interdict" these guns or they WOULD HAVE been interdicted. We have been interdicting guns for 40 years. We know what that is Mr. Melson. PS, we dont withold information regarding potential guns hitting the streets from our sister agencys. Not even if they are MEXICAN.Those guys are goin toe to toe with the worst we've ever seen and you dont TRUST them? Stop the "legal word games". The nature of a straw purchase makes it inherintly illegal if we have information regarding the purchaser (which we did). Stop acting or attempting to convince Congress or the public that because at face value a person is not prohibited that we CANT do anything because this particular gun is not contraband. There are a bunch of successful trafficking groups in Atlanta and New York that DO interdict guns everyday. Its called doing our job.

4. Fact; No Project gunner doesnt focus on straw purchasers, THAT IS THE POINT.


6. Fact; ATF and Mr. Melson have totally retaliated against ANY agent who demands leadership, NOT JUST IN THIS MATTER. Do the math. Release the DSZ disbursements. Exposes the smoke and mirror bad faith mediations and the wasted MILLIONS of dollars of DOJ money spents defending your indefensible abuses against SA Jay Dobyns and others.



http://cleanupatf.org/forums/index.php?/topic/179-fox-news-senator-calls-atf-on-allegations-agency-is-allowing-guns-into-mexico/<br />


An interesting read, that thread.

It gives some insight into the internal workings and "goings ons" in ATF.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 10:47 PM
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1. And Grassley seems to be declaring war with ATF over this. See the evidence here
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beevul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 10:52 PM
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2. Yes.
Though I don't agree with his politics on just about anything, I have noted he seems to be right on the money on this.

And it would appear whistleblowers contacted him.


That ATF whistleblowers would go to him, speaks volumes, IMO.
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