3 dead in Albuquerque office rampage

[MichaelHarris]

A former employee of fiber optics firm Emcore kills two people, then shoots himself over a domestic dispute, police say. His girlfriend is among the four wounded.

A gunman targeting his live-in girlfriend opened fire at a fiber optics manufacturing plant Monday, killing two people and wounding four others before turning the weapon on himself, police say.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-new-mexico-shooting-20100713,0,848560.story


Beyond Guns: N.R.A. Expands Agenda

WASHINGTON — Fresh off a string of victories in the courts and Congress, the National Rifle Association is flexing political muscle outside its normal domain, with both Democrats and Republicans courting its favor and avoiding its wrath on issues that sometimes seem to have little to do with guns.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/13/us/politics/13nra.html?src=me

[repeal_nfa]

1. This has nothing to do with guns. This is crime.

Posting this in the "guns" section would be like posting a crime committed with a baseball bat in a section about sports.

[MichaelHarris]

2. I quote

"Discussion of gun-related public policy issues or the use of firearms for self-defense belong in the Guns Forum." Is this not a gun related issue that affects the public?

[repeal_nfa]

4. No this is not a gun related issue. This is a crime related issue.

Calling this gun related is utterly irrational. It makes as much sense as calling it shoe related it and posting it in a shoe forum. The perpetrator wore shoes so it MUST be shoe related. He used his shoes to get there.

Sorry to rain on your "I hate guns and I blame guns for crime" parade.

[MichaelHarris]

6. you should alert on it

and see how the mods rule then, that's why they are there. In the meantime, "Schultz said the only criminal background discovered for Reza were drunken driving arrests in 2003 and 2000. The chief said there was at least one previous domestic violence call involving the gunman outside Albuquerque but he didn't have details."

Maybe the discussion about how a person with a previous history of domestic violence was able to own a firearm would comply within DU guidelines. See, this is within DU rules, just because you don't like it doesn't make it go away.

[Tejas]

11. Your OP = zilch concerning forum decorum.

I don't see a speck of this:

you should alert on it
Posted by MichaelHarris
and see how the mods rule then, that's why they are there. In the meantime, "Schultz said the only criminal background discovered for Reza were drunken driving arrests in 2003 and 2000. The chief said there was at least one previous domestic violence call involving the gunman outside Albuquerque but he didn't have details."

Maybe the discussion about how a person with a previous history of domestic violence was able to own a firearm would comply within DU guidelines. See, this is within DU rules, just because you don't like it doesn't make it go away.
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3 dead in Albuquerque office rampage
Edited on Tue Jul-13-10 01:35 AM by MichaelHarris
A former employee of fiber optics firm Emcore kills two people, then shoots himself over a domestic dispute, police say. His girlfriend is among the four wounded.

A gunman targeting his live-in girlfriend opened fire at a fiber optics manufacturing plant Monday, killing two people and wounding four others before turning the weapon on himself, police say.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-ne...




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[Tunkamerica]

7. if he killed the people with his shoes you would have a point

and if he killed the people with his shoes this story wouldn't belong.

[TheCowsCameHome]

9. Now THAT'S funny. All time DUzy nominee.

:rofl:

Some farmer uses a shotgun to chase off a kid trying to swipe his shovel and that gets posted in the "Guns" forum.

:rofl:

[MisterBill45]

3. Thak God they had a no weapons rule there. Someone could have been hurt....

[repeal_nfa]

5. Amen. Criminals ALWAYS obey "no guns" signs.

How dare you point out the irrational nature of anti gun viewpoints. Anti gunners will just ignore your sound logic and go back to screaming about how evil guns are and how citizens cannot be trusted to own this gun or that gun, or keep their own gun in their own pocket. 300 million americans + a crime committed with a gun = blaming all guns and all gun owners (in the eyes of the emotional antis).

[Name removed]

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[cowman]

10. Meanwhile back at the ranch

where Molly was doing Danny

[AtheistCrusader]

12. Ok, the shouting down cabal has this well in hand, but

Michael, what do you propose with this article, and a apparently unrelated thing about the current contents of the NRA's digestive tract?


Are you making some sort of statment? Can you clarify? Do you have a policy suggestion here, for a shooting that occurred in a gun free zone? Did the shooter acquire his gun legally? What are you getting at?

[rrneck]

13. He already got what he wanted - attention. nt

[SteveM]

15. Well, I fart loudly when I want that. nt

[rrneck]

16. And you'd make more sense to boot. nt

[Statistical]

14. I find this story hard to believe.

Most workplaces prohibit firearms at the job (gun free zones).
Murder, attempted murder, assault, brandishing, and trespassing are all crimes.

One of those laws should have prevented this.
We need a study to see how criminals are able to circumvent the law; it is almost like they willfully ignore the laws and thus are immune to the magical powers of banning things.