Brady Campaign Removes State Score Cards from Site

[Jackson1999]

At first I was skeptical about the claim in this article.

http://www.examiner.com/x-2879-Austin-Gun-Rights-Examiner~y2009m10d14-Brady-Campaign-violating-US-copyright-law

But it is true. Brady has removed their vaunted State by State Scorecards from their site. Gee, could it be because they showed that crime was worse in states that scored high for "commonsense" gun control?

[spin]

1. K&R (n/t

[gorfle]

2. Hah!

Hah, that's funny. Their score card rated the states they found had the best and worst firearm laws, and yet the states with the highest ratings have the highest crime and murder rates! Talk about, er, shooting yourself in the foot! hahahahah

Anyone have a link to the original scorecard?

[biermeister]

3. here is the link to 2008

www.bradycampaign.org/xshare/pdf/scorecard/2008/2008_scorecard_rankings.pdf

NJ actually went up by 10 when the governor (soon to be former) signed the feel good 1 gun a month law


here is the link for the details
www.bradycampaign.org/xshare/pdf/scorecard/2008/2008_state_scorecard.pdf

[X_Digger]

6. 2007..

http://www.bradycampaign.org/xshare/pdf/scorecard/2007/2007_scorecard_rankings.pdf

[krispos42]

4. There was no correleation between gun laws and crime rates

As expected.

It depends heavily on state political leanings, social programs, and the local economy. Not on how many days you have to wait to buy a gun.

[Jackson1999]

5. agreed

I don't think there is any correlation at all one way or the other.

[Euromutt]

10. I think there is correlation, actually

Namely that jurisdictions that suffer from high rates of violent crime in some or all of their territory adopt tighter firearms laws. Problem is, it's not the availability of guns that's causing the violent crime (but rather, it's the amount of violent crime that creates the demand for guns), so the laws have no discernable effect on violent crime.

At this point, ideology tends to overshadow reasoned thought; if gun control doesn't seem to be having effect, goes the ideological argument, that's not because it fails to address the cause of violent crime (and thus the source of demand for crime guns), but because the measures weren't stringent enough!

[Jackson1999]

11. Interensting. I never thought of it that way. Thanks. nt

[Hoopla Phil]

7. LOL K and R

[Tim01]

8. k & r nt.

[beevul]

9. Imagine that. N/T

[virginia mountainman]

12. Brady Scorecards have been the source of much..

Laughter....

They will be missed!

[57_TomCat]

13. A nice bit of logic...

but not necessarily the "smoking gun". The FBI in their annual report of Police Officer deaths routinely show that more officers die by gunfire in the southeast than anywhere else in the country. The Northeast has much more population and much more gun restriction and much less officer shooting deaths. The Southeast with its much more liberal carry and possession laws does have a sort of negative correlation in some reports.

I submit this to be fair NOT because I (as a cop in the south east)support the idea of increased gun restrictions here.