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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-30-08 01:18 PM Original message |
“Overkill: The Rise of Paramilitary Police Raids in America”, CATO Institute, 7/17/2006 |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-30-08 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
1. Great Post Jody!! |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-30-08 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
2. The police may protect you against gangs |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-30-08 02:38 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I'm not so sure that party affiliations |
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aspergris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-30-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Swat Teams |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-02-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #3 |
32. quel really truly amazing twaddle |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-02-08 07:20 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. I think they are equally wrong. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-02-08 07:27 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. well that just made enormous sense |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-02-08 07:31 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. I said you said |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-02-08 07:46 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. oh my head |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-02-08 07:56 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. What I said sounds exactly like what I mean |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-02-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. are you really this thick? |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-02-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. I'm not a lawyer |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-02-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
31. "around here" would be ...? |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-02-08 07:24 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. Maybe |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-02-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. were you wanting to answer the question I asked someone else? |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-02-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Yeah, "maybe she shouldn't have shot at the cops" |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-02-08 07:50 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. sooooooo many people |
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pnorman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-30-08 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
5. Here's an interesting interactive map from that site: |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-30-08 04:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Many thanks. n/t |
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pnorman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-30-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. You're welcome! |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-30-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. I was reluctant to post the report because of its CATO origin but the authors were objective and |
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WWFZD (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-30-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. From an avowed libertarian |
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pnorman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-30-08 08:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Here's the Antiwar webpage of the Randolph Bourne Institute: |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-02-08 07:15 PM Response to Reply #12 |
34. just for fun, maybe anyone preening him/herself as "on the left" |
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pnorman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-03-08 05:53 PM Response to Reply #34 |
54. Here's my score from several years ago: |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-02-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #10 |
33. why yes of course |
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Duke Newcombe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #33 |
55. Um...by the way...where's YOUR score, again? |
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Malidictus Maximus (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-30-08 07:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Right along the lines of that great post; Malcom X said |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-30-08 10:25 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. I've seen Cato forums on C-Span opposing the WOD (nt) |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-02-08 07:18 PM Response to Reply #15 |
35. and what might you have seen CATO saying |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #35 |
56. i think they do care |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-30-08 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
7. Thanks for that. |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-30-08 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
13. good post |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-30-08 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
14. I've enjoyed this! The Patriot Acts founded on the W.O.D.... |
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radioburning (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-01-08 01:31 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. I went to Target the other day and... |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-01-08 09:21 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. The W.O.D. has everything to do with Bush's PermaWar... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-01-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Civil Asset Forfeiture is the most egregious abuse of power without constitutional authority. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-01-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. And based, at the federal level, on ADMIRALTY law... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-01-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Darn you SteveM, now I've got to refresh my memory on admiralty law. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-01-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Thanks, Jody. And back at 'ya. |
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pnorman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-02-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. I'd been going to sea for over a half century, |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-02-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. actually, I'd assumed |
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pnorman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-02-08 10:19 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. I'm probably among the last in DU, to be able to give a useful reply to that. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-03-08 04:33 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. not exactly rhetorical |
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pnorman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-03-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. "In Rem" is something I had occasionally heard, but had to Google to refresh my memory. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-03-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. just to clarify |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-02-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
37. yeah, har, way waaaay worse |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-03-08 04:40 PM Response to Reply #17 |
51. is it not rather common in the US |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-01-08 07:21 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. That's the conclusion I reached after reading the report and why I posted it. Have a great day! |
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radioburning (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-01-08 01:17 AM Response to Original message |
16. Ever watch that "Dallas SWAT" show on cable? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-01-08 07:27 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. SWAT's record using no-knock warrants to find drugs is not much better than Dubya's use of preemptiv... |
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radioburning (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-01-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. I know it's a lot to ask but... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-01-08 06:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. I join you in that hope. n/t |
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SlipperySlope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-01-08 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
25. Even worse; the poisonous "SWAT mentality" has tainted policing as a whole. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-01-08 06:38 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Agree, the report makes that point over and over. n/t |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-02-08 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
29. Aug 1999, SWAT murdered Marion Paz in botched raid, tries to keep $10,000 via asset forfeiture laws |
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