7-Year-Old Shot, Killed While Boys Played With Gun

[CO Liberal]

Yet another one...... - Wayne

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7-Year-Old Shot, Killed While Boys Played With Gun

'He Did Nothing Wrong To Deserve This,' Woman Says

CINCINNATI -- The mother of a 7-year-old boy who was shot and killed at a neighbor's apartment in the Cincinnati neighborhood of Mt. Airy is trying to figure out why nobody told her about guns in the home.

The boy, Javontay Williams, died while he and an 8-year-old friend were playing with a loaded handgun Monday evening just before 11 p.m. when it fired, WLWT reported.

The gunshot struck Williams in the chest, police said. He was taken to Children's Hospital, where he was pronounced dead just before midnight.

Javontay's mother, Bunny Williams, was stunned to learn about guns in the home and even more stunned to learn that the weapons were reachable by children.

"He didn't do nothing wrong to deserve this," she said. "He's a child!"

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http://www.newsnet5.com/news/2508316/detail.html

[Superfly]

1. Once again, revelling in the death of a child

Nice one. How about letting him RIP?

[CO Liberal]

2. No One is Revelling In ANYTHING, Superfly

Simply pointing out that yet another child is dead because someone just HAD to have a gun......

[Superfly]

3. Yeah, I'm sure that's your intent.

Can we say FLAME BAIT???

[CO Liberal]

4. Can We Say "News Story"???

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm????

[Spoonman]

11. Can we say

Hoplophobics love victims?

[CO Liberal]

12. If We're "Hoplophobes" .....

...I guess that makes you pro-gunners "hoplophiles", right?

[Hrumph]

7. The causes of this tragedy

are many and varied.

I suppose you believe that anecdotes actually prove your position, eh?

[op6203]

18. Actually,

it was because an irresponsible someone had a gun.
OP

[MrBenchley]

19. If fly wants to see reveling

he ought to look to the RKBA crowd....

slackmaster (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-18-03 06:34 PM
Response to Original message
9. He tried to shoot himself and missed?
Poor kid can't get anything right.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=118&topic_id=10507#10679

[slackmaster]

21. "No one was hurt in the incident at the Eldersburg school..."

MrBenchley appears to be humor-impaired.

[MrBenchley]

26. And you were publicly disappointed

MrBenchley has no problem with HUMOR.....

[slackmaster]

5. Everyone repeat after me

Guns are not toys.

[Superfly]

6. Guns are not...

guns are not....

Aw, hell! Ban them all! (If at least for the children!)

[Pltcl_jnky]

8. well

where were the parents as two 8 yr olds played with a gun????

[slackmaster]

20. Good question

Inquiring minds want to know.

Also, why did they not properly secure the weapon?

[CO Liberal]

10. Guns Are Not Nick-Nacks, Either

They shouldn't be left lying around. Where kids can get them.

[CO Liberal]

9. An Editorial From the Cincinnatti Enquirer

How many more Javontays must die?

Two school buses let children out in front of an apartment building on Linn Street. Across the street, in front of a dwelling bearing burglar bars and an electronic door gate, the bereft mother of a slain 7-year-old keened.

Javonna Williams' eyes were dry. But her tears flowed through the words she shouted to the street, to no one in particular.

"They don't know what they've done," she said. "I was there. I saw his pain. He was in pain."

Little Javontay died Monday night, police said, after a child playing with a gun in a Mount Airy townhouse shot him in the chest.

It was an accident, police believe, but it's hard to piece together the facts.

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http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2003/09/24/loc_amos24.html

[Hrumph]

13. How many people are you willing to kill

by denying them the means to defend themselves?

[CO Liberal]

16. I'm Not Trying to Deny Anybody ANYTHING

But if you choose to own a gun, you have the RESPONSIBILITY to store it safely.

[Hrumph]

22. You said:

"Simply pointing out that yet another child is dead because someone just HAD to have a gun."

This would indicate that your problem was not with unsafe storage but with ownership.

[CO Liberal]

23. You're Relatively New Here........

That is NOT my position. At all. As I've posted time and time again.

If someone choosed to own a gun, they have the responsibility to keep is secure. Obviously, someone in this story did not live up to that responsibility.

[Hrumph]

27. Yes, that's true.

They obviously did not meet their responsibilities.

If I misunderstood your position then I appologize. But surely you can see how I could have construed your meaning the way I did from your post.

[Romulus]

24. give it a rest

"Simply pointing out that yet another child is dead because someone just HAD to have a gun."


To me, CO was addressing the apparent consquences of firearms ownership (yes) without an accompanying appreciation of the responsibility involved,namely maintaining control over the weapon at all times.

The big question to ask is why wasn't the weapon secured if it was out of the immediate control of the owner? If the owner were serious about owning up to his/her responsibilities concerning the handgun, this tragedy would not have happened. If you can't figure out how to put a trigger lock on, or how to save up the money for a $100 gun safe or $10 locking case, you shouldn't own a damn firearm. And you shouldn't need a "training class" to know this. Provided, of course, that you are even legally allowed to own a firearm.

edited to add (off subject):

This statement boggles my mind:
"Just because you purchase a gun illegally doesn't mean you can't put a lock on it. Who wants a kid to die?" That's like saying "you bought an illegal firearm, but you don't have to rob anyone with it." Really persuasive. :eyes:

[CO Liberal]

25. Thank You, Romulus

:hi:

[Pltcl_jnky]

14. i feel the pain

but do you blame the car for the drunk driving accident that kills a family or the dumb ass dipshit who got drunk and decided to drive?

do you blame the gun when a robber shoots the 7-11 clerk in the head and take $25 or the robber?

In my opinion you take the two parents (if there are two) who owned and left that gun out and you charge them both with child endangerment, involuntary manslaughter, and armed criminal action (or some variation) and you make an example out of them. Show the country that yeah owning a gun is fine it is a right...but their is also the HUGE responsibility of properly owning it, storing it and making sure that it is safe. Maybe when the dipshits in this country see that the parents go to jail when stuff like this happens, they will take a second and either unload that gun or put it in a locked place the kids do not know about or can get too.

Gun responsibility is gun safety...I blame these parent 99.9% for this accident if they told their kid about guns being dangerous and 100% if they did not

[Hrumph]

15. As much as I agree

that responsibilities are inherent in rights, and that exercising the right of gun ownership entails a high level of responsibility, and as I believe that such responsibilities should be borne by those the exercise such rights, I also believe that it is folly to put any faith in the principal of "setting examples." In other words, if some adults are stupid enough to be so irresponsible then it's silly to expect them to take the hint when you prosecute the offenders. It's like expecting a druken or high individual to exercise good judgment - just ain't gonna happen.

[op6203]

17. Makes sense to me

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