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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 02:04 PM
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Value of solar power far exceeds its cost
BY JOHN FARRELL
26 JUN 2011 8:00 AM

Solar power has a monetary value as much as 10 times higher than its energy value, thanks to its ability to reduce peak demand on the transmission and distribution system, hedge against fuel price increases, and enhance grid and environmental security.

The cost of residential-scale distributed solar PV is around 23 cents per kilowatt-hour (kWh) in a sunny climate like Los Angeles, 24 cents in Colorado. While the average cost of grid-delivered wholesale electricity in many parts of the country is low (four cents per kWh), a new report lists many ways that distributed solar adds value beyond electrons .

Distributed solar power provides electricity on-site or near to demand, reducing transmission losses, as well as wear-and-tear on utility equipment by mitigating peak demand. It also eliminates the need to hedge against fuel price swings. These benefits add three to 14 cents per kWh to the utility bottom line.

Distributed solar also provides value to society, by reducing the economic losses of blackouts (just 500 megawatts of distributed solar could have prevented the massive 2003 Northeast blackout), reducing pollution, hedging against finite fossil fuel supplies, and creating jobs. These benefits add 11 to 16 cents to the taxpayer’s bottom line for every kWh of distributed solar.

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http://www.grist.org/solar-power/2011-06-23-value-of-solar-power-far-exceeds-its-cost
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 02:08 PM
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1. meanwhile our leader wants to give the nuke industry $36 billion in credits it will never pay back.
a better choice would be to abandon obsolete technology and subsidize solar on the rooftops of every suitable home in America.
That would take leadership tho. oh well.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 02:44 PM
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2. I seem to remember some visionary leader saying that the US would led the way in clean energy
The state of our economy calls for action: bold and swift. And we will act not only to create new jobs but to lay a new foundation for growth.

We will build the roads and bridges, the electric grids and digital lines that feed our commerce and bind us together.

We will restore science to its rightful place and wield technology's wonders to raise health care's quality...

(APPLAUSE)

... and lower its costs.

We will harness the sun and the winds and the soil to fuel our cars and run our factories. And we will transform our schools and colleges and universities to meet the demands of a new age.

All this we can do. All this we will do.



I wonder what happened to that man?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-11 08:31 AM
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8. He now works for a big corporation. nt
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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 12:29 PM
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12. Plus his net worth is over $10 Million
He no longer gives a damn about you "little people" he's got a new bunch of friends he's got to keep happy.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 02:56 PM
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3. I'd sure like to see how 'social value' is calculated
Seems that it would be mighty subjective.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 03:16 PM
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5. There is a way to quantify the costs of asthma disease and premature death due to smog pollution
There is a way to quantify the value of vegetation that is lost to acid rain. Those are two examples.
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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-11 04:50 PM
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9. Mercury from coal power plants are primarily responsible for permanent brain damage in fetuses
More than 15 percent of children born in the United States could be at risk
for brain damage and learning difficulties due to mercury exposure in the
womb, according to a new government analysis that identifies certain types
of fish as the culprits.

...snip...

Mercury is a naturally occurring substance that is released into the air by
volcanoes, forest fires, incinerators and factories and power plants that
burn coal. A small amount falls into lakes, streams and oceans through rain
and becomes methylmercury, a potent form of the toxin that becomes more
concentrated as it moves up the food chain.

...snip...

The largest sources of man-made mercury, coal-fired power plants, release
about 48 tons of the toxin into the air each year. Illinois ranks seventh in
the nation in mercury emissions.

http://www.treatycouncil.org/new_page_5211421311.htm
Much more info at the link. A must read for anyone with a daughter or is one of child bearing age. 630,000 babies are born each year with mercury levels at or higher than the level to cause permanent brain damage.

For a list of fish to avoid, see:
http://www.americanpregnancy.org/pregnancyhealth/fishmercury.htm
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 11:17 PM
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6. Really? Well it is right there in the PDF linked at the OP article.
Perhaps your remarks were intended for an effect of some sort ...



...There are additional benefits that accrue to the society at large and its tax payers:
• Grid security enhancement, 2‐3 ¢/kWh: because solar generation can be synergistic with peak demand in much of the US, the injection of solar energy near point of use can deliver effective capacity, and therefore reduce the risk of the power outages and rolling blackouts that are caused by high demand and resulting stresses on the transmission and distribution systems. The capacity value of PV accrues to the ratepayer as mentioned above. However, when the grid goes down, the resulting goods and business losses are not the utility’s responsibility: society pays the price, via losses of goods and business, compounded impacts on the economy and taxes, insurance premiums, etc. The total cost of all power outages from all causes to the US economy has been estimated at $100 billion per year (Gellings & Yeager, 2004). Making the conservative assumption that a small fraction of these outages, say 5‐10%, are the of the high‐demand stress type that can be effectively mitigated by dispersed solar generation at a capacity penetration of 20%, it is straightforward to calculate that the value of each kWh generated by such a dispersed solar base would be worth around 3 cents per kWh to the New York tax payer (see appendix).

• Environment/health, 3‐6 ¢/kWh: It is well established that the environmental footprint of solar generation (PV and CSP) is considerably smaller than that of the fossil fuel technologies generating most of our electricity (e.g., Fthenakis et al., 2008), displacing pollution associated with drilling/mining, and emissions. Utilities have to account for this environmental impact to some degree today, but this is still only largely a potential cost to them. Rate‐based Solar Renewable Energy Credits (SRECs) markets that exist in some states as a means to meet Renewable Portfolio Standards (RPS) are a preliminary embodiment of including external costs, but they are largely driven more by politically‐negotiated processes than by a reflection of inherent physical realities. The intrinsic physical value of displacing pollution is very real however: each solar kWh displaces an otherwise dirty kWh and commensurately mitigates several of the following factors: greenhouse gases, Sox/Nox emissions, mining degradations, ground water contamination, toxic releases and wastes, etc., which are all present or postponed costs to society. Several exhaustive studies emanating from such diverse sources as the nuclear industry or the medical community (Devezeaux, 2000, Epstein, 2011) estimate the environmental/health cost of 1 kWh generated by coal at 9‐25 cents, while a natural gas kWh has an environmental cost of 3‐6 cents per kWh. Given New York’s generation mix (15% coal, 29% natural gas), and ignoring the environmental costs associated with nuclear and hydropower, the environmental cost of a New York kWh is thus 2 to 6 cents per kWh. It is important to note however that the New York grid does not operate in a vacuum but operates within – and is sustained by ‐‐ a larger grid whose coal footprint is considerably larger (more than 45% coal in the US) with a corresponding cost of 5‐12 cents per kWh. In the appendix, we show that pricing one single factor – the greenhouse gas CO2 – delivers at a minimum 2 cents per solar generated PV kWh in New York and that an argument could be made to claim a much higher number. Therefore taking a range of 3‐6 cents per kWh to characterize the
environmental value of each PV generated KWh is certainly a conservative range.

• Long Term Societal Value, 3‐4 ¢/kWh: Beyond the commodity futures’ 5‐year fuel price mitigation hedge horizon of relevance to a utility company and worth 3‐5 ¢/kWh (see above), a similar approach can be used to quantifying the long term finite fuel hedge value of solar generation, from a societal (i.e., taxpayer’s) viewpoint in light of the physical realities underscored in figure 1. Prudently, and many would argue conservatively, assuming that long‐term, finite, fuel‐based generation costs will escalate to 150% in real terms by 2036, the 30‐year insurance hedge of solar generation gauged against a low risk yearly discount rate equal the T‐bill yield curve amounts to 4‐7 cents per kWh (see appendix). Further, arguing the use of a lower “societal” discount rate (Tol et al., 2006) would place the hedge value of solar generation at 7‐12 cents per kWh (see appendix). Taking a middle ground of 6‐9 cents per kWh, the long term societal value of solar generation can thus be estimated at 3‐4 cents per kWh (i.e., the difference between the
societal hedge and short‐term utility hedge already counted above).

• Economic growth, 3+ ¢/kWh: The German and Ontario experiences, where fast PV growth is occurring, show that solar energy sustains more jobs per kWh than conventional energy (Louw et al., 2010, Ban‐Weiss et al., 2010, and see appendix). Job creation implies value to society in many ways, including increased tax revenues, reduced unemployment, and an increase in general confidence conducive to business development. Counting only tax revenue enhancement provides a tangible low estimate of solar energy’s multifaceted economic growth value. In New York this low estimate amounts to nearly 3 cents per kWh, even under the extremely conservative, but thus far realistic, assumption that 80% of the manufacturing jobs would be either out‐of‐state or foreign (see appendix). The total economic growth value induced by solar deployment is not quantified as part of this article as it would depend on economic model choices and assumptions beyond the present scope. It is evident however, that the total value would be higher than the tax revenues enhancement component presently quantified.


It is an easy-reading, interesting, slightly different look at solar.

It is worth downloading and looking over. http://www.asrc.cestm.albany.edu/perez/2011/solval.pdf
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napoleon_in_rags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 03:16 PM
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4. Good stuff.
Its hard to quantify value a product has when its really abstract, but you need to try. I mean you look at things like the meltdown in Japan, and you realize a smart society would calculate the cost of things screwing up catastrophically into their value estimates, as well as a whole host of other things. But when its you as an individual, its all about immediate dollars and cents. I wish we had a financial system that more reflected this long term good stuff in terms of actual projected financial values.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-11 06:37 AM
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7. K&R for distributed solar power ...
Whilst I was aware of most of the points, I'd not realised
(or read but simply forgotten) the bit about how it "eliminates
the need to hedge against fuel price swings".

:thumbsup:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-11 05:49 PM
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10. I expect my investment in a rooftop grid-tied PV system to pay for itself in about 8 years
Edited on Mon Jun-27-11 05:50 PM by slackmaster
Maybe much sooner, if SDG&E raises rates faster than about 6% per year.

With the problems they're having in the early stages of the projected $1.9 billion Sunrise Powerlink project, my investment may turn out to have been a very wise plan indeed. The only way it could fail would be a flattening or drop in power rates.
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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 11:13 AM
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11. Pays for itself in 8 years?!?
Now that is great news.

We don't get the amount of rebates you get in CA so I couldn't get one to pay off that quick.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 01:44 PM
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13. It's not the rebates so much as the high rates we pay for over-lifeline usage
Lifeline use is around 7 cents/KWh
Second tier is about 10
Then it goes to 13
Then 21

and on and on and on.

Since I installed my small (1.5 KW) system, my usage has been about half of the lifeline tier, or about $20 per month.

The federal tax credit is the biggest incentive. I'll get a reduction in my tax bill of about $5,600 for this year.

My fiancee has a medical condition that may require me to install air conditioning before she can move in. I can add another KW of panels on my existing inverter.
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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 04:10 PM
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14. Your electric rates at least make sense
Here in Dallas the rates go down with higher usage.

There are too many plans to count (deregulated market) but mine is
Base charge (less than $10 per month)
First tier 11.9 cents/kWh
Second tier is 11.4
Third tier is 10.8
Then it goes to 10.4
I don't think there is anything lower after that (it's been a while since I looked at my exact plan). But they're all along the same vein: rewarding higher usage.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 05:22 PM
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15. Commercial and agricultural rates are much lower than residential
Thanks for the information.
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