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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 10:08 AM
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In NJ local waters may launch off-shore wind grid
http://www.chem.info/News/FeedsAP/2010/11/topics-alternative-energy-in-nj-local-waters-may-launch-off-shore-wind-grid/

The developers behind the East Coast's largest — and only — offshore-wind electric grid say they want to launch the $5 billion project off the coast of Atlantic City.

The first of the project's three stages would be built between Atlantic City and Rehoboth Beach, Del., in 2013. But eventually — possibly as early as 2020 — the Atlantic Ocean transmission lines would stretch from New Jersey to Norfolk, Va., harnessing as much as 6,000 megawatts of wind power, the equivalent of about nine Oyster Creek nuclear power plants.

"There are two ways to approach transmission for offshore wind," said Robert Mitchell, chief executive for Trans-Elect, the company proposing the grid.

"One approach is to have each wind farm build its own transmission line to shore. And if you were only going to build a few farms off New Jersey or Virginia or Delaware, that would be just fine," he said.

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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 11:59 AM
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1. Oh goody! We can create more homeless people in Camden by making electricity
twice as expensive here - maybe even as high as in that oil and gas drilling hellhole, Denmark - leave lots of rotting grease machines in our waterways over the next twenty years - when they become useless because of their short life span - burn lots of more natural gas and dump it in the atmosphere while pretending that unreliable wind plants that run at 25% of capacity utilization are the equivalent of Oyster Creek which runs at 90% of capacity utilization.

Wind power is not the equivalent of nuclear power. It costs much more, is far less reliable, is much dirtier, and will do everything to encourage fracking of local rock and drilling oil and gas off our coasts, as in the case in Denmark.

This my state that uneducated anti-science consumer brats are trying to make into a gas waste dumping hell hole.

I will do everything in my power to fight this anti-environmental short term nightmare. The days when handwaving stupidos can push their gas friend's interests are over, and opposition to the wind scam is growing around the world.

Have a nice climate change promoting day.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 01:19 PM
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2. Oyster Creek nuclear plant kills untold millions of marine organisms each day
including endangered sea turtles

and wind power does not put people out of work
and it does not make people hydro-fracture for natural gas
and it does not leave rotting grease machines in out waterways.

these are ambien-induced hallucinations

yup
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 01:24 PM
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3. Bull. If you don't know what you're talking about, make stuff up.
Wind power is a flat failure, designed to rape the poor through a regressive tax represented in higher electricity rates.

The wind industry would collapse in twenty seconds without dangerous natural gas, which is why Denmark is issuing new offshore oil and gas leases as we speak.

http://www.scandoil.com/moxie-bm2/news/mergers_acquisitions/application-for-new-oil-and-gas-licence-in-the-dan.shtml

The wind industry is a fraud perpetuated by the oil and gas industry to entrench itself.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 01:28 PM
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4. Oyster Creek nuclear plant in New Jersey uses a once-through seawater coolant system
Edited on Sat Nov-20-10 01:29 PM by jpak
that is responsible for *massive* fish kills, entrapment and death of endangered sea turtles and the entrainment and death of plankton

every day

yup

Your rant is baseless and sick

please seek professional help


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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 01:43 PM
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5. Really? Denmark is NOT issuing offshore oil and gas leases as we speak?
Um, I need professional help?

M'OKay...

I'll leave it to readers as to whether the link provided to new oil and gas leases being issued in the country that is most famous for wind power is real or unreal.

By the way, the Transelect company that's looking to destroy Barnegat Bay with transmission lines from rickety wind turbines, just like Scandanvian oil, has a, um, website, at which they list their projects.

To wit:

•TOT 3 expansion would bring low-cost coal & wind power to Colorado Front Range
– Substantial savings to customers vs. gas-at-load



http://www.trans-elect.com/current_projects.htm

It seems that they're not squeamish about coal, even if I am.



If that isn't gear oil burning up there, what is it exactly that's on fire?



Have a nice day.


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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 01:48 PM
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6. NJ is developing off-shore wind as we speak - too bad
Your Red Herrings are rather lame don't you think?

:D
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 02:08 PM
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8. LOL!!!1 off-shore wind = oil and gas venture
Google is funding the infrastructure

Off-shore wind farms are not financed by NJ taxes

This is a falsehood someone dreamed up

Off-shore wind farms are not "closing libraries, cutting school budgets, cutting aid to the poor "

Your asshole Republican governor is.

Solar works - you can't fool us by just stating something and claiming it's true (like FOX News).

we know better.

educate yourself.

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