2013

[phantom power]

In the last six months estimates of when the North Pole ice cap will completely melt have been revised to 2023.

At least one climate scientist, Wieslaw Maslowski of the Naval Postgraduate School, projects a blue, ice-free Arctic Ocean in summers by 2013, an event that has never occurred before, as long as human beings have inhabited our planet.

In the last year estimates of when climate change will cause widespread famine have been revised to 2020.

http://www.kauaiworld.com/articles/2007/10/14/news/news09.txt

[CGowen]

1. I first thought you were talking about leaving Iraq ... n/t

[hunter]

4. That'll be part of it.

We'll need the National Guard and much of the remaining military (who will probably be reassigned to domestic service) to handle the climate and petroleum crisis here in the U.S.

We won't be able to support foreign adventures and U.S. citizens are apt to get very cranky as this economy runs out of gas and the oceans start to rise.

[RaleighNCDUer]

2. Not to worry.

The Mayan long-count calendar has the world ending in 2012 anyway.

[ixion]

3. lol... that was my response

:rofl:

[Strelnikov_]

5. Considering all the lines pointing to a nexus around 2012

is does get one wondering.

The original Club of Rome?

[phantom power]

6. Speaking of 2012...

The Mayans seemed to believe that the world as we know it would end at the conclusion of the 13th baktun, measuring from the Birth of Venus. That date points to Dec. 22, 2012.

http://perdurabo10.tripod.com/id581.html

Boo!
:evilgrin:

Oopsie. I somehow missed NCEvilDUer's original post. :blush:

[Strelnikov_]

7. No need to shop for Christmas '12 I guess

It is funny how this Mayan thing corresponds to when many (including myself) feel the worst effects of energy and resource depletion (not to mention the US economic bubble) will begin to manifest themselves.

Then again, a million monkeys with typewriters . . .

[GliderGuider]

8. 2013...

This gives me the shivers every time I look at it.

[phantom power]

9. somehow, the Mayans knew. Those paranormal freaks.

[Strelnikov_]

10. 'One Term President' comes to mind.

'Large truck and SUV sales off 100,000,000,000,000%' comes to mind.

But, mostly, 'We're Fucked' comes to mind. Mostly.


What is the source of this analysis? Have you thought about posting this graph in GD to see how many recognize it's significance, just for fun.

[GliderGuider]

11. The "analysis" was really simple.

I stole the data from http://netoilexports.blogspot.com , decided to just use the last 5 years' numbers, applied a 3 month moving average, created a line chart in Excel and told it to add a second order polynomial trend line. Then sat back and said, "Ohhhhhh fuck!"

[fenriswolf]

12. man makes everything else seem inconsequential

[motocicleta]

13. Kick

I'm just gonna go back to playing computer bridge since this thread is unlikely to go far on DU while millions of threads regarding our mostly useless potential Democratic nominee will continue to have legs. I have my backup plans working; how 'bout you, DU?

Hello? Is this thing on?

and R

[losthills]

14. Two things to consider...

The first is that, with all that weight and pressure coming off the North Pole it can lead to tectonic shifts and earthquakes.

The second is that, with the North Pole melting faster than the South Pole, it can throw the planet out of balance and cause the Poles to move, or even change places.

I did some research on it. It's over my head, but it has apparently happened in the past and it can either happen fast or slow....

[bigmonkey]

15. The North Pole ice is already floating.

Ice that's already floating can't cause those tectonic stresses. The weight of the ice is already borne by the sea floor via the liquid water between the ice and the sea floor. It's the melting of the ice that's now on land that will make the sea rise, and cause the crustal stress. Like the ice on Greenland, or the ice on land in Antarctica.

Hapgood and Einstein did speculate that the weight of the ice on the poles could cause crustal slippage, but it's speculation.

[XemaSab]

17. And it needs to be pointed out

that isostatic rebound is a long, slow process.

Hudson Bay? Still rebounding from the last ice age.

[bvar22]

16. WOW. The ice cap will melt....

...before Hillary pulls the troops out of Iraq.