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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 12:24 AM
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If Gore Had Picked Kerry Over Lieberman In 2000
Would the Greens have been so decisive? What prompted Gore to run to the center, to one of the biggest corporate hookers in the party over a progressive that never took a PAC dime in his entire Senate career? Someone with a record of taking on the best the GOP had to offer and kicking ass?

If Gore/Kerry have been the ones to respond to 9/11, do you think they would have done things differently?
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 12:25 AM
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1. I think trade
was one of the major reasons Greens were discontent over Clinton years. Other than that, I am not sure.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 12:26 AM
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2. I think Gore was scared of running with Dukakis' Lt Gov
Although, I think Kerry wouldn't have rolled over in the VP debate, and would have taken the traditional roll of attack dog. I think Gore-Kerry would have won, as well as Gore-Shaheen or Gore-Edwards.
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WiseMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 06:37 AM
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7. GORE WAS AFRAID OF RUNNING WITH CLINTONS FIRST CHOICE
Edited on Thu Dec-11-03 06:47 AM by WiseMen
Kerry would have overshadowed Gore in the Whitehouse.

JOHN KERRY was Bill Clintons first choice for Vice President in 1992.
Clinton was advised to choose Gore because Kerry had opposed the first Gulf War while Gore had joined the Republicans to support it.


Kerry opposed the Gulf war because he saw U.S. militarization of the region as a potential long-term disaster. Kerry had led the investigation of the Reagan/Bush duplicitous involvement in the Iran-Irac War during the 80's and saw the Gulf conflict as avoidable.

Al Gore voted for that War, supported by Governor Dean, that desecrated the Muslim Holy Lands, turned the formerly pro-U.S. Islamic radicals into Anti-American Jihadist and led more than a decade of death and tragedy for people in the region.


RECALL: Osama Bin Laden was an Ally of the U.S. against the Soviet Union in Afgahnistan. Now he is our enemy.
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helleborient Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 09:36 AM
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10. So Kerry wasn't opposed to Gulf War I because the public was opposed...
The explanation I read here at DU from Kerry supporters was that Kerry opposed the first Gulf War because there wasn't enough public support and not a clear coalition internationally when the vote was taken place.

What is stated here is a different reason.

Which is right? Can you point to any of Kerry's actual statements to indicate which is correct about his earlier decision?

If this reason mentioned here is correct, why wasn't there fear of long-term disaster this time around?

It seems that Kerry's reasons for opposing the first Gulf War and then voting with George W. Bush on the second Gulf War are so confusing that even his supporters are confused.
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dajabr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 12:30 AM
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3. Dollars to donuts...
With Gore/Kerry in office, there is no 9/11.
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Stargleamer Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 12:39 AM
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4. Yes, Lieberman didn't add to the ticket
But a Gore-Graham ticket would have even been more decisive in the critical state of Florida.
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Sean Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 02:07 AM
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5. I agree.
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Metrix Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 05:33 AM
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6. Gore had to pick someone who would make him look like the alpha male
I like Gore. But he ran scared from the Clinton record. He ran scared against Bush and the media. Now he is endorsing Dean, as far as I can tell, because he is primarily running against Bush, making Bush the focus. It's running scared again.

People underestimate how many moderate Republicans want to vote for someone other than Bush. Kerry projects the integrity and strength people are looking for.

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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 06:50 AM
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8. "If Gore Had Picked Kerry Over Lieberman In 2000"
He would be sitting in the Oval Office today, IMO.
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 09:26 AM
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9. I remember reading in the papers and hearing on the radio
how pleased the media were with the VP debate in 2000.

"It was like two grownups were actually having a conversation."

"The VP candidates overshadowed their running mates with their gravitas and likeability."

and other such garbage. The reasons the presstitutes were so enthralled by that debate was that Smilin' Joe just smiled and laughed and went along with Tricky Dick Cheney. No rocking the boat from Joe. He laid down and died like the good Democratic puppy he is. It was music to the media hos' ears.

"Look, here's a Democrat who doesn't argue all the time like that nasty old Gore, raisin' a fuss."

The hour or so of my life I wasted watching Joe get his biggest chance to speak truth to power is gone, but not forgotten.

And now, say what you will about Gore's endorsement, but Joe has happily and repeatedly provided the official "spin" for it - it has been tainted because Joe didn't get a phone call.

Either he is totally delusional or he is getting paid off under the table by Scaife. Either way, he continues to hurt our party.

I have NO DOUBT in my mind that Kerry would have made Crashcart sweat in that debate, as well he should have. Gore's biggest mistake was the choice of his running mate.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:12 PM
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11. Lieberman helped him get Florida. Kerry would have helped him
get New Hampshire and West Virginia. Lieberman was the wrong choice but I'm not sure Gore is calling his own shots. I am currently very disapppointed that he has caved in to the DLC.
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