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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:30 PM
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Al Gore for the 2008 Democratic ticket!
How about it? He DID fight for US when * stole the 2000 election. And he didn't stop until the Supremos forced him to. Plus, he's been an outspoken critic of the Iraq war. He knows more about environmental issues than any politician I can think of, and won't sacrifice basic Democratic principles. I say we need President Gore!
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:31 PM
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1. some have said
that the main reason he didn't run this time is because he knew Bush was going to steal it again and there was nothing he could do about it.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:32 PM
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2. I think he was pressured by the DNC/DLC not to run.
Gore had massive grassroots support, but the powers that be thought they knew "what was best" LOLOL.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:34 PM
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4. I don't know, I've heard some higher-ups say they thought Gore
was the best chance. I heard Carter was pushing Gore to run. Personally I think he would have gotten more votes than Kerry did but he still would have lost because of the fraud.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:36 PM
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5. He was addressing the computer threat before a lot of others though.
Maybe if he'd been the nominee something would have been done, like lawsuits against states that had paperless voting machines, before it was too late.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:38 PM
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6. I don't think there's anything anyone could have done
by the time the nomination happened, it was a done deal. the only chance is to enact legislation years before. even lawsuits take time and if they forced states to have a paper trail it would have been impossible to upgrade the machninery in time.

that's why we can't let up and we have to keep fighting so we have any chance at all for election reform before '06
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:40 PM
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7. I would still like to see him run.
He definitely won in 2000, and it would be delicious to see that injustice made right. Plus, he'd make an awesome president.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:42 PM
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9. me too. I wanted him to run this time
before the election fraud, the energy policy and the environment was my topic of choice. I've always liked Gore. What other politician has had the guts to propose a tax on CO2 emmissions?

but now he's got to prove to me that election reform is a priority. that's become a litmus test for any potential candidate for me.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:46 PM
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10. I don't even know if he wants to run again.
Tipper might not let him even if he does. I think it was unbelievably hard enduring what they went through.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:33 PM
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3. I actually am in favor of this now
He's seen the truth and appears to have moved solidly to the left.

David Allen
www.thoughtcrimes.org

The taste of Republican butt does not improve with age.

"The NeoCons can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They do not feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And they absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:42 PM
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8. We need someone who has vision...
I knew Gore had vision after hearing the 2000 debates.

What we need is Fusion, and fast!

It can save our economy, get us off our oil addiciton, and help the environment.

A bunch of oil magnates making energy and environmental policy is ridiculous.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:49 PM
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12. I can't think of a more powerful and persuasive statesman than Gore
to help lead us out of the abyss. I hope he sees it that way too.
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buzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 02:01 PM
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14. Take time to read this speech by Gore it is very good.
Transcript: Al Gore Speech on Iraq at Georgetown University

October 18, 2004
By Al Gore, Former Vice President of the United States

snip

"There are many people in both parties who have the uneasy feeling that there is something deeply troubling about President Bush’s relationship to reason, his disdain for facts, an incuriosity about new information that might produce a deeper understanding of the problems and policies that he wrestles with on behalf of the country. One group maligns the President as not being intelligent, or at least, not being smart enough to have a normal curiosity about separating fact from myth. A second group is convinced that his religious conversion experience was so profound that he relies on religious faith in place of logical analysis. But I disagree with both of those groups. I think he is plenty smart. And while I have no doubt that his religious belief is genuine, and that it is an important motivation for many things that he does in life, as it is for me and for many of you, most of the President’s frequent departures from fact-based analysis have much more to do with right-wing political and economic ideology than with the Bible. But it is crucially important to be precise in describing what it is he believes in so strongly and insulates from any logical challenge or even debate. It is ideology – and not his religious faith – that is the source of his inflexibility. Most of the problems he has caused for this country stem not from his belief in God, but from his belief in the infallibility of the right-wing Republican ideology that exalts the interests of the wealthy and of large corporations over the interests of the American people. Love of power for its own sake is the original sin of this presidency. "
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buzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 02:03 PM
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15. oops here is the link to Gore's speech
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Niche Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:48 PM
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11. I love Al Gore. I just wish he would have stood with Congress...
Edited on Mon Jan-10-05 01:49 PM by Niche
in 2000. He did apologize for not fighting harder... it was a beautiful speech right before this election... it might have been with Move-On... but he followed the law when it went down. He's a true Dem... can't wait for IndTV!
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:54 PM
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13. If I recall correctly, it was the speech he made at Georgetown University
I think. :think:
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3smos Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 02:04 PM
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16. YES!!!!!!!1
How do we make this happen? Start now!
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 02:06 PM
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17. i don't think so
at least not me personally. i think we all need to calm down a bit over what has just happened before we start throwing around ideas. it's WAY too early.
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3smos Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 02:12 PM
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19. just need something to hold onto for the future!!!!
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NationalEnquirer Donating Member (571 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 02:11 PM
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18. Not so fast.
Among non-hardcore democrats that I know, Al Gore is seen as something of a sore loser. I know, thats not his fault, but its the perception. I think Kerry would have a better chance than Al.
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K3RRY1 Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 02:44 PM
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20. Ok, but I still like a Clinton/Sharpton ticket. -nt
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 02:53 PM
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23. Gore - Jesse Jackson n/t
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 02:55 PM
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24. Sharpton??!!??!!
That's just crazy talk.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 03:13 PM
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25. No Clinton or Kerry for me. I love Sharpton, but is he viable?
If the Dems want my support they've got to nominate somebody who stood up to the thugs when it counted. One very good litmus test is positions people took on the IWR. Kucinich voted against it, Dean and Gore spoke intensely against it. It wasn't a popular position at the time, but these people demonstrated principle and ethical courage. THAT'S the kind of president I want!
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RunningFromCongress Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 02:50 PM
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21. Only Bearded yelling Al Gore, not stiffy gore
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4_TN_TITANS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 02:52 PM
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22. Kerry, Gore, etc.....
We've had good candidates, and by how close the races were, either one could get lots of votes against a new Repug contender. I'm not sure that there's a Repug who could stand up to either, but let's give it a little more time before jumping behind somebody.....
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 03:14 PM
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26. I'd be in Heaven if he'd run.
I hope he'll consider it. Great idea!
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leyton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 04:44 PM
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27. Plus he'd probably run a great campaign.
He has a national campaign under his belt and has probably learned from the mistakes of 2000. Whereas anyone else running is probably running for the first time.

Does anyone know if Dewey, Stevenson, or Nixon ran better campaigns the second time they ran?
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election_2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 07:21 PM
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28. How about getting past the 2006 midterms first....
Like protecting Dayton, Cantwell, and Stabenow for reelection, and bringing down Santorum and Talent in '06...

The next two years will give the political world a whole bunch of new faces to consider (such as Mark Warner, Evan Bayh, and Blanche Lincoln) for the top of the ticket. If the Democrats can make a two or three seat net gain in the Senate, retain most of the Dem-held governorships, and chip away at some seats in the House, that should give everyone a better idea of what direction to go in.

Remember, back in 2001, who ever would have thought that Howard Dean would have been within arm's-reach of the Democratic nomination?
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