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RodneyCK2 Donating Member (813 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 10:37 AM
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Any comments on the new anti-Kerry book, Unfit for Command?
There is a new book about to be released entitled Unfit for Command, supposedly debunking his Vietnam record.

Has anyone heard any reports about it, false claims, people coming out against it, remarks?

Attack points from the book:
1. Two of John Kerry's three Purple Heart decorations resulted from self-inflicted wounds, not suffered under enemy fire.
2. All three of Kerry's Purple Hearts were for minor injuries, not requiring a single hour of hospitalization.
3. A "fanny wound" was the highlight of Kerry's much touted "no man left behind" Bronze Star.
4. Kerry turned the tragic death of a father and small child in a Vietnamese fishing boat into an act of "heroism" by filing a false report on the incident.
5. Kerry entered an abandoned Vietnamese village and slaughtered the domestic animals owned by the civilians and burned down their homes with his Zippo lighter.
6. Kerry's reckless behavior convinced his colleagues that he had to go -- becoming the only Swift Boat veteran to serve only four months.

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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 10:39 AM
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1. Sure.
It's John O'Neill. All you need to know.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 10:39 AM
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2. Just look at the author, John O'Neill
This is major RNC bullshit

Doesn't everyone on Kerry's swift boat commend him?

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RodneyCK2 Donating Member (813 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 10:39 AM
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3. I just found this tidbit...
The Kerry campaign is planning to vigorously counter the charges and will accuse the veteran's groups of being well-financed by a top Bush donor from Texas, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

"They hired a goddamn private investigator to dig up trash!" charged a top Kerry adviser traveling with the senator late Tuesday. "This is pay for play, and the dirtiest of all dirty tricks ever played on a candidate for the presidency. How low can they go?"

Kerry supporters are comparing the effort by the veterans to the Arkansas State troopers tell-all against Bill Clinton.

UNFIT FOR COMMAND will not be released until August 15.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 10:49 AM
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5. Guess you missed the part where O'Neill DID NOT SERVE WITH KERRY.
And vets who were contacted by the hired gun complained about having the transcripts of their interviews doctored by the hack investigator. Tapes prove the investigator changed their words.

Did you check out O'Neill and his honesty? Not only did he NOT serve with Kerry, but he also was brought in by the NIXON WHITE HOUSE to use as a counter to Kerry. O'Neill also claimed that he never coordinated with the Nixon team, however the Nixon tapes released in recent years tell a different story of FULL coordination. O'Neill is a LIAR.

Charles Colson, who recruited O'Neill for his dirty tricks against Kerry at the time, in 1996 APOLOGIZED to Kerry for trying to ruin him for the Nixon WH.
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olddem43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 10:44 AM
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4. Total, unadulterated Horse-shit. Easily proved wrong by
anyone who even knows how to read. I hope this backfires on them big-time, by exposing the Bushco campaign for the crooks they are.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 10:50 AM
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6. See this thread for lots of interesting background about O'Neill
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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 10:51 AM
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7. Exposed by Media Matters
None of the swiftboat officers who are opposing Kerry today really associated with Kerry during the war. They never fought alongside him.

John O'Neil was a creation of the Nixon administration in order to undermine Kerry's opposition to the Vietnam war.

You may want to check this out: http://mediamatters.org/items/200405040004

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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 10:56 AM
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8. This shit isn't worth the foolscap it's printed on, and can be
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 11:02 AM
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9. Written by a Nixon Minion
Repukes have rediscovered their love affair with Nixon, and they aren't afraid to flaunt it.

Liars and criminals, all of them.

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A_Possum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 03:56 PM
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10. Official documentation to counter #3, the bronze star "fanny wound"
These are actual Navy Records. They are not easy to decipher, and are pdf files. I've transcribed to the best of my ability. Kerry was the officer in command of PCF 94 during this incident where they picked up Rassman (boldface mine):

After Action "Spot Report" for March 1969


GR. PCF 23 JOINED AT CAI NUOC. PCFS WITH MSF EMBARKED DEPARTED CAI NUOC AT 1445H PROCEEDING DOWN BAY HAP. AT VQ 995770 MINE DETONATED UNDER PCF 3 LIFTING BOAT ABOUT 2-3 FEET OUT OF WATER. VERY HEAVY BLK SMOT(smoke?) OBSERVED AT SAME TIME BOATS RCVD HEAVY A/W AND S/A FROM BOTH BANKS. FIRECONTINUED FOSNABOUT 5000 METERS. TWO OTHER MINE EXPLOSIONS OVC RVED. ALL BOATS AND MSF RETURNED FIRE A D ATTEMPTED ASSIST PCF 3. PCF 94 PICKED UP MSF ADVISOR WHO WENT OVERBOARD. 94 TOWED PCF 3 AS BUCKET BRIGADE CONTROLLED FLOODING. PCF 43 TOOK ALL WIA TO USCGC SPENCER DOR TREATMENT. PCF 94 AND 51 ASSISTED PCF 3. LCVP ITH D/C PARTY WAS IMMEDIATELY DISPATCHED FROM WASHTENAW COUNTY. BOAT DAMAGE SEPARATE MESSAGE.

********(description of wounded, including Kerry and others, some "medevac" and Kerry's and several others listed as "minor." Kerry's details:

DELTA: H13MAR 69, 1530H, HSONG BAY HAP, WQ010780.HWHILE SERVING AS OFFICER IN CHARGE ABOARD PCF-94 ENGAGED IN OPERATIONS IN THE ABOVE RIVER. LTJG KERRY SUFFERED SHAPNEL WOUNDS IN HIS LEFT BUTTOCKS AND CONTUSIONS ON HIS RIGHT FOREARM WHEN A MINE DETONATED CLOSE ABOARD PCF-94

ECHO: CONDITION GOOD, PROGNOSIS EXCELLENT, PRESENCE OF NOK IS NOT MEDICALLY WARRENTED

Actual pdf files at http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/SpotReports_March1969.pdf

*******

John Rassman's own account of the incident not only corroborates this, but amplifies the situation at the time:

On March 13, 1969, Rassman was a 21-year-old lieutenant in Army Special Forces when he was blown overboard from a boat next to Kerry’s on the Bay Hap River. Someone on Kerry’s boat saw Rassman in the water, dodging sniper fire from both banks.

In a recollection decades later, Kerry said: “Jim was exhausted from swimming, and my right arm hurt and I couldn’t pull very hard with it. Everyone else was firing a machine gun or something. … Christ knows how, but somehow we got him on board and I didn’t get the bullet in the head I expected.”

Rassman said he clung to the bow of Kerry’s boat in an awkward position, unable to pull himself onto the deck.

“I was just incredulous to see John run out of that pilothouse and up onto the deck,” he said. “I truly did expect him to get shot. One newspaper quoted me as saying, ‘What a dummy.’ It was not dumb — it was blind courage on his part.”

Except for a letter that went unanswered in 1984, just after Kerry was elected to the U.S. Senate, Rassman made no further attempt to contact Kerry.

Then in January, while in a bookstore in Los Angeles, Rassman saw copies of “Tour of Duty,” a book by historian Douglas Brinkley about Kerry’s military and antiwar experiences. It is based largely on Kerry’s letters and journals and interviews with him and the men who served with him.

Rassman read about his rescue.

“I turned to my wife and told her the story,” he said. “She read it. Then I took the book out of her hand, closed it, put it back on the counter, took her by the hand and left the store. I was overwhelmed and choked up.”


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My personal point of view...the swiftboatvets and the other vets who are now claiming Kerry is "unfit to command" really are as low as it gets.

Feel free to copy this to any other thread or use at will to counter the distortions.






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