New Clark Flyer - Last Flyer I Made Was for Kucinich!

[catherineD]

It was called a New New Deal and is still probably available on some Kucinich sites. But I came to believe that Kucinich wasn't hiring the kind of campaign staff that could get enough attention to his ideas -- that his staff was more interested in attracting Greens than in attracting Democrats. Still like him, though. But Clark's the guy who can win the nomination, win the election, provide Democratic coattails, create long-term caring plans for our country, and work with both sides of the aisle to get those plans implemented. So...

I've put together a 1-page flyer for Clark with "10 reasons to Vote for Wes Clark," a picture of him, the logo, and a nice quote about his high ethical standards. The flyer also states that it isn't affiliated with the campaign, since I'm still trying to figure out how to get approval. It's in Microsoft Word and anyone who is interested can email me at [email protected] and I will email it to them. I'd also welcome any ideas on how I can get the flyer "out there." Thanks.

[Gloria]

1. I have several brochures/fliers which include a lot on domestic issues....

that I have been sending to people on the Clark blog.

They are also in Word doc format.

If anybody is interested, email me privately here at DU and I will send them out!!
Our Field coord. likes them and we're going to use them on tables, etc.

[Tadah]

2. focus on your limitations...

"But I came to believe that Kucinich wasn't hiring the kind of campaign staff that could get enough attention to his ideas"

you blame Dennis for your own limitations... I still don't feel wooed by any other candidate besides Dennis...

[Lydia Leftcoast]

3. Me either

For example, I find that Clark's health plan for adults relies too much on tax credits.

Well, we self-employed people already get to deduct almost all our insurance premiums (it will be 100% in a couple of years) from our Federal income tax on our 1040 already, and while I appreciate the tax credit, it does nothing to alleviate the problem of having to pay a hefty premium each month plus a high deductible.

[floridaguy]

4. Welcome to another of many joining the Clark campaign

I just wanted to take a moment to welcome you to the Clark campaign. Unlike others, we are an inclusive group that encourages the supporters of all the other campaigns to take a closer look at our candidate and truly consider who has the best chance to beat George Bush. We believe after doing that, most people will choose Wes Clark.

Just so you know, you're not alone, you're one of several people I know of that has joined us from other campaigns just this week. Just like the phenomenal increase in fundraising we saw this quarter, we have seen an amazing number of people join us as well. We all have our sights set on the big prize - removing George Bush.

[catherineD]

5. Thanks. I actually switched over months ago, but there were so

many Kucinich headlines in "politics and campaigns" when I posted here, that it seemed only friendly to mention my former association!

[Tinoire]

6. Is this the Clark campaign's new "meme" Catherine?

that Kucinich just wants Greens and that real Democrats would not feel at home there? What makes you think that real Democrats would be any more comfortable lining up behind a candidate who just registered as a Democrat in late September of 2003?

"Oh that Kucinich is so cute, but not a serious, electable candidate" seems to be the underlying theme here.

Unbelievably transparent

I really wish I had book-marked that post I saw on a Clark blog 2 weeks ago about how people should start to "woo supporters from the Kucinich, Sharpton and Mosely-Braun" camps.

Also, why are all all the these blogs paid for by the Clark Campaign? And all look alike? It reminds me of my Army days where everything had to be lined up nice and pretty and look the same, be it soldiers in formation, trucks in the motor pool or pencils on your desk. Is this a hint of what my country will look like if Wes Clark becomes President?

This is not very reassuring.

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He always feels very genuine, though his repetition of phrases could get annoying. I used to support Kucinich, until I had to face the facts that the team around him was more interested in attracting their Green buddies to his side than they were in appealing to Democrats. And that he wasn't interested in hiring the kind of people he needed to make a real go at a national campaign. (And this was, of course, long before Wes Clark got into the race.) Their motto is "the progressive choice" -- I pushed on all the bulletin boards and other means for "a new New Deal" -- I remember that a few batted around "the Real Deal," which I notice Kerry has adopted.

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Good luck with your new flyer. Your enthusiasm for candidates is a positive and I hope they give you approval.

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[Tinoire]

9. Naw

I just have what Pink Floyd calls "amazing powers of observation" developed after 20 years of having been paid to do this by the very industry I'm fighting.

Several of us actively go look for the new "memes" just to know what to expect in the coming weeks- that way we can get our ammo together in advance ;)

I'll try to find the one about wooing the Kucinich, Sharpton and Braun supporters for you since you're apparently unaware of it.

[catherineD]

12. Did you think I was too hard on you so that the

message should have been removed? The conspiracy 'meme' thing really bothered me, so I can't say that I was aware as much of the less, er, hostile part of what you were saying. But I didn't think I was that harsh.

[Tinoire]

22. I didn't alert on that

I can't remember what it said but I don't recall being shocked and I certainly didn't complain. My skin is as tough as yours.

[diamondsoul]

10. I remember the new New Deal suggestion.

If this is the same person it's truly sad that they've opted to just give up like that.

What's even more sad is that I'm in a position now where something could have gotten done with the ideas. I'm pushing several at staff that have just been overlooked in the shuffle and frustrated supporters. Funny how people expect a spit-shined, high gloss campaign out of a shoe-string bdget grassroots effort.

[catherineD]

13. Yes, I remember your name, Diamondsoul.

But I probably never really did fit in. See, I'm one of the people who is uncomfortable with the word "progressive," preferring "liberal." I suggested polka parties, too -- anyone remember that crazy suggestion? I notice that Kerry now uses "The Real Deal," which is something some of the other people in the discussion thought was the best one to go with. I always liked what I saw of Dennis on TV -- especially that Harkin thing on cspan -- but I think it was after he'd hired some new people to be important members of his staff and I read about their background that I finally became particularly discouraged and happened upon Michael Moore's recommendation to consider Wesley Clark. Back before he was in the race. That was after I'd written the op-ed about Kucinich and First Energy and couldn't find a single newspaper -- I tried about 100 -- willing to publish it, even though it had only been about a week since the blackout. Though it did get published by counterpunch and later a Dayton, Florida newspaper. Glad to see he's been getting a bit more coverage recently, as has my guy.

[diamondsoul]

15. Yes, indeed, I remember the Polka Parties, too!

So very sorry we lost you. :( I'm guessing you mean the Ruppert article, which is factually inaccurate. For some odd reason people got the idea that having someone as a friend and legal adviser equals a major position on the Campaign.

I have to say I'm disappointed in General Clark since reading about his dismissal of the dangers of Depleted Uranium. I am absolutely not convinced there isn't any danger, and in fact lean toward the opposite belief based on the evidence I've seen. I can't in good conscience support a man who defends the use of something which may very well result in serious damage to future generations along with all the other damage bombs do.

[genius]

17. What's this about Ruppert? The man's got more courage than most of us

and more information about 9/11 than 99% of America. I am not sure of which article you speak. I know that Ruppert was impressed with Dennis because Dennis was the only candidate talking about the funds the Pentagon lost. Personally, I'm glad that Ruppert's on Dennis's side.

[diamondsoul]

19. Nah there was an article that

Just gave the impression that a friend and advisor to Dennis more stature than he has in the campaign, is all I meant. I like Ruppert myself, however he isn't a major influence on Dennis' decisions outside of legalities.

[catherineD]

21. I hadn't heard about the depleted uranium so I looked it up

on google by typing in "depleted uranium" and wesley and clark. I got the following link, in which Clark cautions that soldiers should be careful around the depleted uranium, so I'm wondering what it was that you read. http://wesleyclark.h1.ru/uranium.htm -- hope that helps! --Catherine

[eileen_d]

11. Geez - it's blog software with the same template

The blogs on Clark's site are not a some sort of conspiracy to stamp out individualism amongst supporters. They are a feature of the web site that allows members to post their own content. They make use of the main Clark web site template, but no one is being forced to blog there.

I greatly resent your trying to paint the Clark campaign as some sort of militaristic boogeyman just because a single supporter says things you do not agree with.

As for "wooing supporters" - what campaign isn't trying to woo supporters from other camps, directly or indirectly? As well as undecideds. Again, NOT a conspiracy to subvert democracy... just politics.

[drfemoe]

8. Straight from Kucinich to Clark?

Did you take the space shuttle? That's light years!!

[catherineD]

14. Should I have stopped in with Mosely-Braun on the way? :)

Someone had a chart posted here recently from a British site that shows Clark slightly to the left and less authoritarian than Dean. Though, admittedly, that's not hard to be. He wants things like having all kids covered by health insurance, college students receiving $6,000 tuition grants for the first 2 years, the option of funded preschool care for all kids 3 and 4, the repeal of tax cuts for families making more than $200,000 a year, a total review of the Patriot Act, clean air, etc. The largest Native American independent newspaper just endorsed him -- they say they're impressed with his regard for treaties. When he'd been working in Washington a week, the Rwanda genocide began to happen and he was asked to work on a plan for American intervention. But without more "interests" at stake, the government didn't adopt it. He saw the pictures later -- he says the images affected him profoundly and he didn't ever want to be part of letting that kind of thing happen again. So when the chance came up to save 1.5 million Albanians in Kosovo, he pushed hard for it. And with Madeleine Albright, and tepid support from our government, he did it. I don't know if Kucinich is interested in stopping genocide in the world -- I can't remember hearing him say anything about it. But I'm glad that Clark is. I read a speech of his today, too, where he said that if we were doing the right thing ahead of time in places like Liberia and several other African states he mentioned, the problems that have surfaced there could have been prevented. And I'm sure you know how intelligent he is and the incredible kind of commendations he always received. Here's one I put on my flyer: "Clark exhibits the best balance of professional ethics of any officer I know. Particularly noteworthy is his demonstrated selfless dedication to his men, his unit, and the Army. He exhibits absolute integrity of word, deed...he establishes and observes scrupulous ethical and moral standards." --Colonel Lester E. Bennett, 1980

[genius]

16. Don't let Dennis's campaign people drive you away. We need him.

Dennis is still the best candidate.

In the county where I live, hundreds of Democrats have quit Dennis's campaign but are still planning to vote for him. The problem here is not with the Greens but with the Republicans and a national campaign manager who treats people who have worked hard and gotten great results like garbage while telling them they have to follow a non-Democrats who seems to oppose everything Dennis stands for. Dot knows that the guy she placed in charge of our county lied about re-registering from Republican to Democrat and that he has a background that makes Enron execs look honest and she doesn't care. After getting caught lying about his party affiliation, he has apparently become bolder and now seems to be trying to hold himself out as the head of the Republican campaign for Dennis. In the meantime, all the Democrats and Greens in my county have gotten the shaft and the Democratic Party and the Democrats who have worked on the campaign deserve an apology. Because of this non-Democrat, whom Dot Maver seems to trust, the ethical volunteers in my county have quit the official campaign but are all still planning to vote for Dennis. The worst part is that companies this guy has run have a history of misusing lists of phone numbers and the campaign is apparently intent in making sure that this guy, who may very well be nothing more than an infiltrator or someone working on the campaign as a way to make contacts for some new business venture or scam, has voters lists with which to do it again - thanks to the campaign.

Despite all the anger from Democrats at the way the campaign is being handled, I have not seen anyone I know transfer that anger to Dennis. And they shouldn't. Dennis has minimal time to oversee his campaign and is apparently delegating a lot of authority - clearly to people who don't know what they are doing. Dennis repeatedly shows that he has more integrity than anyone else running for President. In the end, we have to think of which candidate will follow through with the best policies.

I think that, when Dennis starts winning primaries, his campaign will pick up and I would hope that, at that time, he would take charge of his campaign and turn it into the kind of campaign that reflects the great guy he is.

[diamondsoul]

20. *blinks*

And airing the local dirty laundry here is supposed to reassure others HOW again?

Genius, I know plenty about local dirty laundry. I DON'T post it for public consumption and neither should you. You haven't helped Dennis. Most likely you've hurt him and that, my friend, pisses me off royally.

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[Todd Smyth]

23. Don't let Karl Rove pick...

Look for who they don't want to run against. When you see every dog catcher and his brother on Fox News, bad mouthing Howard Dean, it really shouldn't be so hard to figure out who they don't want to run against.

Please do not divide the party for Bush. Don't let Karl Rove pick who he wants Bush to run against.