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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:06 PM
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a call to action Crispin is if this bothers you I will pull it.
I got the following email and thought I would share.

Dear Everybody,

Well, the story is getting out. It is in salon.com,
on MSNBC last night and it will keep growing thanks to
all of you.

It is taking time to get the word out, but it is
happening. If you want to help in the effort in Texas
and the rest of the country without leaving home,
please read this.

1. We need voluteer attorneys, statisticians and web
programmers to organize the next push to get this
issue the attention that it needs.

2. We need volunteers on the ground in Florida, Ohio,
Nevada, Iowa and New Mexico for a number of things.
Anyone who knows anyone who is in touch with groups in
these states, please give them my email and tell them
to get in touch with me. ([email protected]) I
will get back in touch with them about next steps.

3. We want contacts within every union that can help
organize an outreach on this effort. Please send
those to me as well.

4. Bev is doing the analysis, but we other groups,
Gina de Miranda (mad as hell), Kat at Do not Concede
among others are organizing the political pressure,
media outreach and protests to keep this issue front
and center in everybody's mind. We all have to work
together.


Keith Obermann gave us a little attention last night.
It is up to us to keep the pressure on them. We have
to push this effort to keep gaining traction with the
media and NOT LET THIS GO AWAY. REMEMBER IT TAKES 15
REPITITIONS OF A FACT for people to internalize it and
begin to recall it easily. We got one, now we need
the other 14 on every channel and in every newspaper.

We need to start demanding to know why WE HAVE TO TELL
THE MEDIA WHAT THE STORIES ARE!!!


Gina de Miranda







First of all, this election was definitely rigged

http://www.unknownnews.org/041105comvot.html
&
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2004/11/04/election_reactions/index1.html

by Mark Crispin Miller, Salon
Nov. 4, 2004

First of all, this election was definitely rigged. I
have no doubt
about
it. It's a statistical impossibility that Bush got 8
million more votes
than he got last time. In 2000, he got 15 million
votes from right-wing
Christians, and there are approximately 19 million of
them in the
country.
They were eager to get the other 4 million. That was
pretty much Karl
Rove's strategy to get Bush elected.

But given Bush's low popularity ratings and the
enormous number of new
voters -- who skewed Democratic -- there is no way in
the world that
Bush
got 8 million more votes this time. I think it had a
lot to do with the
electronic voting machines. Those machines are
completely
untrustworthy,
and that's why the Republicans use them. Then there's
the fact that the
immediate claim of Ohio was not contested by the news
media -- when
Andrew
Card came out and claimed the state, not only were the
votes in Ohio
not
counted, they weren't even all cast.

I would have to hear a much stronger argument for the
authenticity, or
I
should say the veracity, of this popular vote for Bush
before I'm
willing
to believe it. If someone can prove to me that it
happened, that Bush
somehow pulled 8 million magic votes out of a hat, OK,
I'll accept it.
I'm
an independent, not a Democrat, and I'm not living in
denial.

And that's not even talking about Florida, which is
about as Democratic
a
state as Guatemala used to be. The news media is
obliged to make the
Republicans account for all these votes, and account
for the way they
were
counted. Simply to embrace this result as definitive
is irrational. But
there is every reason to question it ... I find it
beyond belief that
the
press in this formerly democratic country would not
have made the
integrity
of the electoral system a front page, top-of-the-line
story for the
last
three years. I worked and worked and worked to get
that story into the
media, and no one touched it until your guy reporter from Salon]
did.

I actually got invited to a Kerry fundraiser so I
could talk to him
about
it. I raised the issue directly with him and with
Teresa. Teresa was
really
indignant and really concerned, but Kerry just looked
down at me --
he's
about 9 feet tall -- and I could tell it just didn't
register. It set
off
all his conspiracy-theory alarms and he just wasn't
listening.

Talk to anyone from a real democracy -- from Canada or
any European
country
or India. They are staggered to discover that 80
percent of our
touch-screen electronic voting machines have no paper
trail and are
manufactured by companies owned by Bush Republicans.
But there is very
little sense of outrage here. Americans for a host of
reasons have
become
alienated from the spirit of the Bill of Rights and
that should not be
tolerated.
------------
Mark Crispin Miller is a media critic, professor
of communications
at
New York University, and author, most recently, of
Cruel and Unusual:
Bush/Cheney's New World Order.





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Sperk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:25 PM
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1. Kerry's the one who said they're the most crooked bunch he's
ever seen. I find it equally difficult to believe that Kerry could know less about these machines than I DO! Jesus H. Christ.....give be a break. Either Kerry is playing dumb for some stategic reason or he's in on the whole damn thing....I know that doesn't make sense.......but NOTHING DOES ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

God Help US!
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