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neoteric lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 07:17 PM
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Who is looking forward to the NFL Draft?
I am a gosh-darn junkie when draft time comes up. I tell everyone not to bother me for those 9 hours of NFL goodness. I don't know what I can do to stop it. Help me! :) j/k
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 07:18 PM
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1. Alot of soon-to-be millionaire college players
and their hangers-on agents.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 07:53 PM
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2. Amen.
Wads of money thrown at kids who haven't even proven they can play in the NFL yet. It's one of the things that bothers me about the NFL - the outrageous sums they dump on rookies.
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Mick Knox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 07:54 PM
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3. I watch the news and highlights..
Cant wait for the season.. but I got baseball right now and thats good enough.. til the real game starts!
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 07:57 PM
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4. I am. I hope the Giants get Manning
Collins is still good-when he decides to show up- and they are in need of other positions but I think getting Manning could put a surge into the Giants and Collins and maybe they will both perform better.
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Champ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 07:59 PM
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5. Me! Me! Me!
This draft has the best and deepest talent I've seen for quite sometime. Especially at the WR, you have stars such as Fitzgerald, Mike Williams, Reggie Williams, Roy Williams, Rashaun Woods, and Lee Evans. You also have very good late round sleeper picks at the WR such as Clarence Moore, Maurice Mann, and Carlos Wright. Also the TE position is very good with players such as Kellen Winslow Jr, Ben Waston, Ben Troupe, Kris Wilson, and Ben Utecht. The QB position is good as well and look out for late round sleeper Robert Kent(Strong arm and great speed).
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Van Helsing Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 08:05 PM
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6. Not I.
Baseball season has just started. I don't want to think about the NFL until August. :)

Besides, I think it's ridiculous all these college kids make millions just for playing football.
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Peachhead22 Donating Member (798 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 08:18 PM
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7. It's the highlight of my offseason. <g>
Man, I hope the Pats get Steven Jackson or Vince Wilfork. There's a rumor they'll trade (too much) to move up and pick Sean Taylor. Arrgh! Then the TV would go out the window.
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St. Jarvitude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 08:33 PM
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8. Sean Taylor?Th
They've got a premier free safety in Rodney Harrison, and an up-and-coming star (out of Illinois, woo :party: ) at strong in Eugene Wilson. Why would they pass on drafting a guy they really need (like Steven Jackson) to TRADE AWAY TALENT and their pick for a guy they don't need at all?

If that rumor is true... I will be irritated.
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Twillig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 08:56 PM
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10. Steven Jackson is a Democrat!
And I hope to hell that a good team like the Patriots gets him instead of a purgatory like the Lions....



Go Beavs!

http://www.portlandtribune.com/archview.cgi?id=21190
Trib: Republican or Democrat?
Jackson: Democrat. It's just the way I was brought up.

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Champ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 03:34 AM
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13. Why not the Broncos?
Atleast I hope Denver gets him. Plus that democrat would have much more success under Denver's system then New England's.
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Peachhead22 Donating Member (798 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 11:13 PM
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11. Exactly
That's exactly my reasoning. But Belichick was quoted as saying Taylor is one of the best players in the draft. So Ron Borges (a Boston sports writer) took the rumor and ran with it.

His reasoning is the Pats will trade Law (since he's being a jerk) and move Wilson to CB. I ain't buying it.
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ronzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 08:38 PM
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9. Saints don't pick until #18.
Bah.
I still love draft weekend.
:toast:
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DEM FAN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 11:34 PM
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12. Get Manning. GO G-Men.
I Love The Draft. :-)
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 03:41 AM
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14. I would just love
to be Robert Gallery's agent.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 03:43 AM
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15. dork who like football?
Just kiddin, I've never been into watching drafts, though I love all sports. Football though I can see being good cause the good players are already familiar.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 04:03 AM
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16. I would be indescribably excited if Brock Berlin had turned pro
Same for any self-respecting Hurricane fan. I simply can't stand another season of God-loving #7 and his weekly turnover festival. Serves us right for accepting a Gator transfer.

For two+ decades I was an ultimate draftnik, taping the all-star games and virtually memorizing Buchsbaum, Kiper, Ourlads and one or two others. I knew every name in every round, even when it was 12 or 17 rounds. But now my job takes too much time and my Dolphins trade most of their high picks anyway.

Still, I can usually connect on my top opinions, like crank-it-up Timmy Couch destined for mediocrity and Marcus Allen-clone Deuce McAllister an ultimate steal that far down in round one. We still have a couple of weeks, time for more specific threads, but I'll start with capsules of the players I am most familiar with, them 'Canes:

* Sean Taylor -- I am not sold on him as a certain pro star. He is an extremely overrated and unreliable tackler who can be run over, despite the ideal size and occasional big hit. Great hands and running ability, but a long strider who takes time to adjust and can be beaten one-one-one by a quick receiver. He'll go much higher than Ed Reed did two years ago, but is not the player Reed is.

* Vince Wilfork -- Canes fans call him Wilfat, a wag term that fits. Vince probably played at 360 last year, and will be a pro mediocrity unless he dumps to the 315-325 range. Wilfork is nowhere close to Jerome Brown or Warren Sapp in terms of happy feet and explosive athletic ability, but he can make one decisive move and disrupt the play when his weight is down. Stamina is certainly a question. Wilfork rotated in an extremely deep DL his first two years, and only played fulltime, or close to it, last year.

* D.J. Williams -- solid, trustworthy all-around player but not a big play guy. High school superstar who played fullback as a frosh and perhaps should have stayed there. Ironic because ex-Cane star Alonzo Highsmith made the exact switch in reverse, an incomparable gaffe. Highsmith had close to Lawrence Taylor ability as an OLB, but his family urged him to switch to offense and he tore up a knee early in his pro career with the Oilers.

* Jonathan Vilma -- small frame but a big play missile who played out of position in college at MLB. In the right system he could thrive as an attacking weakside OLB. Also should be a special teams star early in his career, like most of the Canes in this crop.

* Vernon Carey -- versatile offensive lineman who played hurt last season, and out of position for much of his college career as Miami rotated linemen. He is fluid, has a mean streak and should be an excellent pro for a decade.

* Kellen Winslow Jr.-- not much I can write that everyone doesn't know. But Winslow's blocking intensity and ability is absolutely phenomenal, far superior to Jeremy Shockey or any TE in this draft. He never got enough credit for that. Winslow is not quite as nifty or versatile as Shockey as a receiver.

Damn, what I wouldn't give to provide an insult-laden departing capsule of Brock Berlin! I'll hit the floor in a seizure of laughter if someone wastes a 7th rounder on Bungling Brock next April.
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Champ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 08:12 AM
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17. Pretty much agree
Sean Taylor has yet to prove himself as a pro star. But he is 4 inches taller and 20 lbs bigger then Ed Reed but still has yet to prove himself so I am not going to say how good he will be. But as far as being overrated as hitter, I seen Miami play 9 times last season. LTech, Florida, FSU twice, BC, WVU, Vtech, Tennessee, and Pittsburgh, from what I seen Sean Taylor hits like a linebacker and he has more then enough talent to be a successfull pro. can be beaten one-one-one by a quick receiver. I agree, I seen him make mistakes in pass coverage but I think he'll adjust. The numbers don't lie, 9 int's(tied for 2nd in the nation), 78 tackles, and 18 passes deflected. He'll be a starter at the Free Safety position at the start of the 2004 Season. Anyways, there isn't any other safety in this years draft that I feel is as good as him.

About Vince Wilfork, the numbers from his pro day workout lists him at 323 which is pretty good size for a DT. Everything else you said about him I agree, but there isn't a doubt in my mind he will be a top 10 pick. Everything else you said I agree, plus I think the Broncos may take Vilma.

Please note: This post took over 20 minutes to complete because everytime I hit the damn 'R' button it stuck to the bottom of the keyboard so everytime that happen I had to get my knife a prop the button back up.
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