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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 03:17 PM
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If you had to move to a another country where would that be? I'd
move to Italy or france. Italy because I like the food, france because I can speak the language.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 03:19 PM
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1. Norway.
Beautiful scenery, sane government.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 05:08 PM
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35. I second Norway
Have actually toyed with the idea, but my commute is bad enough as it is.

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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 05:56 PM
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39. Easy - just go to AMS, then DTW.
A co-worker of mine was trying to non-rev back to MSP from (I think) SFO around Christmas time (bad idea in the first place). Everything, everywhere was booked for days. Only way he could fly back to MSP was SFO-DTW-AMS-MSP, lots of seats open. But, not wanting to spend two days riding on airplanes, he finally got as far as MEM then DSM, rented a car and drove home. But you can usually get to and from AMS. Then SAS to OSL, no problem!

I will be retiring soon. Wish I could retire to Norway.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 12:47 AM
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44. I work DTW - AMS in a couple of weeks
Sure would be nice if we had some of those with deadhead legs on them. Commuter's dream!

Suppose there wouldn't be a better time in life than right now to think about it.

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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 03:29 PM
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2. British Isles because I can speak the language
and I have visited England, Scotland and Ireland twice. The people are wonderful. I loved the Scottish people. The last place I would want to live would be in France. They are all rude to Americans until they see your money and then their attitude changes.
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 03:37 PM
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3. You can speak Welsh?
;)
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 05:49 PM
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10. 80% of the people in Wales can't speak Welsh
I've lived here for a few years and as far as I've gotten is improving my pronunciation of Welsh placenames and recognising words from the bilingual road signs and such (although in a lot of cases Welsh seems to engage in borrowing of English words with some orthographic modification...'tacsi' for taxi, 'bws' for bus and so on).
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 01:21 PM
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25. No, but when I was in Wales, they spoke English.n/t
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 07:05 PM
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42. I took a train from Hereford to Bath in 2006 and had to change trains in Wales
I was standing on the platform in the Welsh train station, and they made the loudspeaker announcement in Welsh first.

Then, to my great relief, they repeated it in English. :-)
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 05:42 PM
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8. I should go to Scotland. I've done genealogy online but that is the closest I've ever
gotten to the land of my ancestors.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 06:19 PM
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15. Continuing the myth of French rudeness.
No, ALL of them are not rude.
Even in Paris (the NYC of France), I found folks to be friendly and helpful.
There can be a certain brusqueness that's fairly typical of many U.S. cities, especially in the northeast.

I really can't remember a bad experience in my many visits to the country.
I'd pick a small French or Italian village to live in if I didn't have family (grandkids) here.
:-)
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 02:27 PM
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30. Well, when I was in Paris and tried to use my limited
French, I would be laughed at even though most of the French could speak English, but chose not to.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 09:05 PM
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66. they were nice to me in paris
and my french, such as it is, consists of maybe five very badly mispronounced words

i think if you're REALLY pathetic, they don't pick on you

they might pick on pretenders or social climbers who don't speak french well enough to meet their haughty standards but if you're obv. just hopeless they don't pick on us :-)

that's my latest theory, since my friends who speak french are the ones who say more about "rude paris" than those of us who are happily clueless

i thought it was great!
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 05:30 PM
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36. That's odd, I have no problem with France at all.
What happened, did you try and speak to them in a foreign language (like English) or something?
I am in France about once a week for work. The people there are anything but rude and couldn't
care less about my money.
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OriginalGeek Donating Member (589 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 04:43 PM
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4. I'd love to settle my weary bones down with
the bones of my ancestors around the bonnie, bonnie banks of Loch Lomond.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 04:47 PM
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5. Estonia
I speak the language, have family there.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 05:34 PM
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37. Now THERE's a lingusitic challenge!
Estonian is similar to nothing except Finnish, which is no picnic. Unless Esti was a cradle language for you, kudos for learning it.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 06:06 PM
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40. I didn't start learning English until kindergarten
My parents talked to me only in Estonian, even though they spoke fluent English. I wasn't allowed to speak English around the house until I went to college.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 06:11 PM
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41. That explains it
And good for them. We raised our children bi-lingually, and one of them would now be waiting on tables
in New York, looking for legal work that isn't there, if she hadn't been bi-lingual in German. Instead,
she is now in Frankfurt am Main working at a highly-paid job with the German arm of a top British law firm.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 09:07 PM
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67. i love frankfurt!!!!
your daughter is so lucky!!!
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 04:50 PM
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6. New Zealand in a heartbeat.
Beautiful scenery, wonderful, easy-going people, utterly civilized but not too densely populated. Good wine, too, and they let you make your own whisky at home for personal use. And they speak English, or something very close to it. ;)
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 11:19 AM
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52. And they have town names that get censored in search engines
due to how they are pronounced :P

Whakatane
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Pool Hall Ace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 04:51 PM
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7. The Netherlands
My niece is moving there soon! :)

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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 05:47 PM
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9. Several options, none of which are easy to get into
Japan, because I've lived there before (on a student visa), speak the language, know how to get along in the society, and have a lot of friends there.

The UK, because I like the culture and the people (aside from the yobs).

Norway, because I have some cool relatives there, the government is sane, and the scenery is so stunning that the whole country should be a national park

Other Scandinavian countries, same as Norway, only no relatives and not quite as spectacular scenery.

The only countries that seem to want older Americans (like me) are in Latin America.
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 12:21 PM
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20. Well, on the good side of the LA front.
$250K will allow you to live like a billionaire in Santo Domingo...big house, gold faucets, cabana boys, private pool, gated community with its' own police force, the omnipresent threat of class riots.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 01:00 PM
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24. That's assuming one wants to live in Santo Domingo
Edited on Sat Oct-08-11 01:03 PM by Lydia Leftcoast
I really dislike the idea of living like a billionaire in a poor country.

Also, I've looked at some of the "retire abroad" websites, and they all seem to think that people want to spend their retirements drinking beer on the beach with an occasional break for golf or tennis.

I need a place with lots of cultural events, bookstores, etc.
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 01:29 PM
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26. I was kind of joking...
I thought the "omnipresent threat of class riots" made that obvious. Supposedly David Koch lives in mortal fear of a class uprising and spent millions to insure his safety and shelter when it comes, inevitably in his opinion. I don't think he thought that one through...he's clearly going to be on anybody's zero-hour short list. He'll be dead before the riots even commence.

Those retire abroad sites and the Dominican resorts in question are clearly catering to conservatives looking for retirement shelters. Retire abroad, avoid having to ever pay taxes on your IRA or pay for your fiscal crimes evil coprophagous Republican scum.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 05:53 PM
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11. O...
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Tikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 12:30 PM
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21. Us, also..have our spot picked out..
Osoyoos B C




The Tikkis

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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 02:53 PM
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31. Me too
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 05:56 PM
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12. Canada, Sweden, Norway, maybe one of the Baltic countries
Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia. Look beautiful and very historic. Czech Republic, too.

Guess I'm eurocentric, but would like it there, I think. Pretty damn sick of what's happening here.

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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 05:59 PM
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13. Canada, because I could go there without problems, as I have dual citizenship.
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blueknight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 06:08 PM
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14. i think
panama or thailand. i love hong kong, but wouldnt want to live there. also austrailia or new zealand, been to both, just lovely people
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Throd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 06:20 PM
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16. Andorra
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 06:27 PM
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17. I met a family from Andorra when I was on a farm vacation as a kid. I always wanted to go
there after that.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 02:32 AM
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46. I've been there. Bring a heavy jacket if you go in the winter!
It's waaaay up there in the mountains (spectacular scenery, tho).
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 04:21 PM
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61. Seriously? I've been, and it's a commercialized HELL-HOLE.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 08:12 PM
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18. Brazil
but I need to learn more Portugese first.
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 03:19 PM
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58. THIS is the winner. Ding! Ding!
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-11 09:01 PM
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19. Canada, because I speak the language.
And they have free health care.
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 03:29 PM
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33. Canada, because I speak one of the languages
I guess that rules out Quebec for me.

:hi:
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 12:34 PM
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22. Costa Rica or Belize
I have friends in both countries.
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kayakjohnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 12:38 PM
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23. New Zealand or Brazil.
Possibly South Africa.
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 01:32 PM
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27. Ireland, France, Norway, or Greece.
Edited on Sat Oct-08-11 01:35 PM by Lucian
I'm fascinated by the Celtic ruins of Ireland and would love to study those for my PhD, so that's why I'd want to live there.

If I moved to France, I'd live in the Provence region. I love the lazy lifestyle there. They're never in a hurry, they know how to eat, and everyone is friendly there.

I love the fact that Norway has the highest happiness index and the socialized medicine. That would be the practical place to live.

If I moved to Greece, I'd live in the Cyclades, especially Thira or Mykonos. I love the white houses and the perfectly blue waters of the Aegean Sea.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 02:15 PM
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28. New Zealand.
Wonderful folks and it's nice and isolated if the world goes to hell.
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pink-o Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 02:25 PM
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29. Italy. I've been many places in the world, but none compares.
I love the Med, and I could live in Malta, Morocco, Spain, France, Greece, Turkey--anywhere around that Sea. Otherwise, give me Sydney. I love Australia, but I hate flying there, so the geography puts it out of the running.

Oh, BTW, I'm assuming this hypothetical includes the phrase..."If money were no object..." Cuz I love Rome, but could never afford it.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 04:22 PM
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63. I missed Malta on my travels, dang it all.
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 02:54 PM
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32. Spain.
I'm already working on citizenship and I speak the language intermediately...but with no accent, like a true native.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 04:03 PM
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34. Although I can speak the languages of Sweden, Netherlands, France and Andorra...
I moved to Germany because one of the friendly natives asked me to...

and that was an offer I couldn't refuse!
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OriginalGeek Donating Member (589 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 12:58 AM
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45. You made the right call.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 02:33 AM
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47. No regrets on my part, anyway!
I had to get SOMETHING right, didn't I?
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 05:35 PM
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38. Canada. New Zealand. Chile. Argentina. UK. Thailand. Holland. France. Costa Rica.
There are many places I could live
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Sisaruus Donating Member (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-11 07:12 PM
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43. Finland
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Demonaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 03:10 AM
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48. Utopia, just turn left at Shangri-la
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-11 09:04 AM
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49. Canada
Preferably, British Columbia or Nova Scotia. I have been to both, and really loved them, especially BC. I am particularly fond of Victoria, BC. It's so very British, yet so very Canada. Kind of like living in the UK, only with hockey and mountains. I really love Canadians, too. The ones I have met are all very friendly and have a great sense of humor.

If not there, New Zealand or Australia would be cool. Or, anywhere in Scandinavia There are also parts of Italy I wouldn't mind living in, especially around Lake Como. But, it's not like I would ever be able to afford that.
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KC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 04:56 AM
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50. I'd
move to Scotland ( relatives there ) or Canada
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 08:32 AM
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51. one of them socialist countries
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Luciferous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 11:21 AM
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53. I would choose New Zealand, my husband would say England because
his family is from Liverpool and he has dual citizenship.
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Paper Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 11:24 AM
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54. Belgium. Great people, beautiful country.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 04:24 PM
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64. Absolutely. And Belgium seems to get overlooked!
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 11:24 AM
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55. I think all of us that want to move to New Zealand
should get together, pool our resources and set up shop on Waiheke Island :D
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 01:05 PM
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56. Wyoming.


Sonny: So what country do you want to go to?
Sal: Wyoming.
Sonny: Sal, Wyoming's not a country.

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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 02:50 PM
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57. Czech Republic
My ancestral countryside. Although anyplace on the Mediterranean would be lovely, too.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 03:42 PM
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59. Mexico because it was my first home and I miss it terribly
But I'd love to do some serious traveling elsewhere
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 04:19 PM
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60. Either Cornwall, England, or Normandy, France (maybe Alsace).
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 04:22 PM
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62. maybe
Edited on Mon Oct-10-11 04:22 PM by Tuesday Afternoon
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 09:01 PM
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65. if i "had to?" a cheap one!!!
Edited on Mon Oct-10-11 09:02 PM by pitohui
to be honest i don't know if there are too many countries left that are cheaper than louisiana

as an american who would not be allowed to work in italy or france i guess i would have to shoot myself in about five months

well, as an american who prob. wouldn't be allowed to work in any foreign country it's hard to say but even central america, the one time haven, i couldn't last for long although i could prob. eke out a couple of years rather than a couple of months from my pitiful life savings

they're saying ecuador might be an option???
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kaiden Donating Member (811 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 09:21 PM
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68. Baja Mexico is supposed to be nice.
You can lease a property for 99 years and keep it in your family forever.
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